One of the best in years but still nowhere close to what was needed.
Rate our current Transfer window
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I'm in full agreement. I moved from a 5 because we did sign what are arguably two of the best defenders in their positions in the Prem in AWB and Maguire. But we need more guile in midfield, a good DM would be nice, and a RW.
Depends on what the goal of the window was. Incremental progress or enough to compete with Liverpool and City?
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6/10 with a chance to improve that to 8/10 if we get a replacement for Ander or upgrade Matic.
I was hoping to get a right winger and 2 midfielders (#6, #8). A right back was no brainer. We got a 7th CB though.
Before window started I'd expected 3-4 out 3-4 in.
OUT: Rojo, Darmian, Lukaku, Matic
IN: RW, CB, RB, MF(if Pogba or Matic leave).
In that order
We've signed two, I don't think James is ready. Still haven't shipped out anyone, Lukaku may leave but we won't get replacement.
Matic is one year older, midfield is weaker than last season and why can't we just fecking find a RW after all these years.
3/10
OUT: Rojo, Darmian, Lukaku, Matic
IN: RW, CB, RB, MF(if Pogba or Matic leave).
In that order
We've signed two, I don't think James is ready. Still haven't shipped out anyone, Lukaku may leave but we won't get replacement.
Matic is one year older, midfield is weaker than last season and why can't we just fecking find a RW after all these years.
3/10
4/10. Not addressing the midfield issues will bite us on the arse.
Don't even get me started on the RW...
Don't even get me started on the RW...
On the ins 6.5/10 - I think, that in addition to James, Wan Bissaka and Maguire, De Gea committing himself to the club hopefully means that his form will pick back up.
Much of our problems last season were fitness, confidence and bottle.... I am happy that with the signings we have made we have a great chance of top 4, but this is also as much to with with Arsenal and Chelsea not being that great TBH.... as long as things are going well I can see us looking amazing, the issue is if there is a wobble then I have concerns, but I do not see anyone coming in that will change that either.
That said 1 of Bruno, SMS, Dybala, Eriksen would pump it up to an 8/10, 2 and it would be a 10/10
On the outs 0/0
Much of our problems last season were fitness, confidence and bottle.... I am happy that with the signings we have made we have a great chance of top 4, but this is also as much to with with Arsenal and Chelsea not being that great TBH.... as long as things are going well I can see us looking amazing, the issue is if there is a wobble then I have concerns, but I do not see anyone coming in that will change that either.
That said 1 of Bruno, SMS, Dybala, Eriksen would pump it up to an 8/10, 2 and it would be a 10/10
On the outs 0/0
5/10
We have sort of shifted our problems around a bit rather than progressing as a whole, solved the defensive one's (potentially) but then neglected the midfield and now the forward line is weaker than last year as well and we we are stuck with players that we cant move on or some that dont want to be here anymore.
A lot will depend on the youth this season it seems now, have to hope Greenwood or Gomes or this young teenage sensation Lingard step up and turn out to be something special.
Also a big season for Martial and Rashford, they should be looking at this season as the time to progress up to the levels of scoring of Kane, Salah, Aubameyang & Co and leading the front line themselves, time to be men instead of the boys now.
We have sort of shifted our problems around a bit rather than progressing as a whole, solved the defensive one's (potentially) but then neglected the midfield and now the forward line is weaker than last year as well and we we are stuck with players that we cant move on or some that dont want to be here anymore.
A lot will depend on the youth this season it seems now, have to hope Greenwood or Gomes or this young teenage sensation Lingard step up and turn out to be something special.
Also a big season for Martial and Rashford, they should be looking at this season as the time to progress up to the levels of scoring of Kane, Salah, Aubameyang & Co and leading the front line themselves, time to be men instead of the boys now.
7/10 for the approach. The willingness to quit Dybala and set a precedent for a new way to negotiate was good to see (assuming of course the reports are true and we didn't like his wage demands). We also didn't entertain Gareth Bale and focused on proven, hard working young talent that fit the ethos Ole is after.
4/10 for execution. Maguire for £80m feels like a doable transfer right at the start of the window when it was reported Leicester just want more than what VVD went for. It appeared £80m would do it then but we bid £70m, then some add ons and ultimately dragged it out longer than it should have. AWB was done well enough, as was James. I fear a shaky few days as we rush for one more though.
8/10 for the choice. AWB was a personal first choice for me, and Maguire would have been next best after De Ligt. Can't complain at all!
5/10 for the number of players brought in. 3 (of which 2 are starters) is no way near enough. But we did keep Pogba which keeps some continuity and I don't think we will sell Lukaku without replacing so there could be something to salvage.
4/10 for execution. Maguire for £80m feels like a doable transfer right at the start of the window when it was reported Leicester just want more than what VVD went for. It appeared £80m would do it then but we bid £70m, then some add ons and ultimately dragged it out longer than it should have. AWB was done well enough, as was James. I fear a shaky few days as we rush for one more though.
8/10 for the choice. AWB was a personal first choice for me, and Maguire would have been next best after De Ligt. Can't complain at all!
5/10 for the number of players brought in. 3 (of which 2 are starters) is no way near enough. But we did keep Pogba which keeps some continuity and I don't think we will sell Lukaku without replacing so there could be something to salvage.
I’d give a far higher rating than 5/10 if we could only get rid of Darmian, Rojo, Jones, Lingard, Lukaku
5/10
- Improved with Maguire
- Still loads of deadwood
- Extending contracts of mediocre players
- Lukaku might leave, is Martial gonna do it for us?
- Midfield is laughable
- no RW
- Unmotivated Pogba by the likes of it
- Improved with Maguire
- Still loads of deadwood
- Extending contracts of mediocre players
- Lukaku might leave, is Martial gonna do it for us?
- Midfield is laughable
- no RW
- Unmotivated Pogba by the likes of it
6/10 we've addressed huge problems with our defense (hopefully) so that's really good and shouldn't be underestimated. Theres a problem in midfield in the form of Matic. Upfront is where Ole is taking a massive risk by relying on Rashford/Martial to score goals but a reliable backup would have been good.
5/10 - We have numbers wise in wise only done half what we should have done and outwise not done anywhere near enough
On the positive side though I dont know James much at all so wont even pass judgement. But Bissaka is the best signing in terms of ability, what we needed and potential to go on to ne genuinely world class that we have made in a long time. Also think Maguire, though not my first choice by any means is the best centre back we have signed for a long time too. Think Baill was a rough diamond, Lindelof and Blind were always for me at least going to be no more than average and Rojo was not a good signing from the off. We have at least signed a good if not in my opinion world class centre back at last.
On the outs its also positive that the one genuine world class player we have (at least performance wise) is still here in DeGea, that is absolutel massive.
Its a decent window for the first time since Mourinhos first for me, like then though it isnt enough. A couple of outs like Lukaku and a deadwood player and a quality midfielder and though not overwhelmed I would be realtively happy with it which havent said for a while, but definately need one more and a quality one too
On the positive side though I dont know James much at all so wont even pass judgement. But Bissaka is the best signing in terms of ability, what we needed and potential to go on to ne genuinely world class that we have made in a long time. Also think Maguire, though not my first choice by any means is the best centre back we have signed for a long time too. Think Baill was a rough diamond, Lindelof and Blind were always for me at least going to be no more than average and Rojo was not a good signing from the off. We have at least signed a good if not in my opinion world class centre back at last.
On the outs its also positive that the one genuine world class player we have (at least performance wise) is still here in DeGea, that is absolutel massive.
Its a decent window for the first time since Mourinhos first for me, like then though it isnt enough. A couple of outs like Lukaku and a deadwood player and a quality midfielder and though not overwhelmed I would be realtively happy with it which havent said for a while, but definately need one more and a quality one too
We haven’t got rid of any one yet. Even Young is still here, ffs get rid of the poo.
We were never going to be able to do enough in one window to compete with City and Pool. So you have to assume our goal for next season is CL Qualification. So rate it on that basis.
5/10 for mine
Defensive improvements is a clear 9/10
But the rest has been a car crash
Lost Fellaini and Herrera with nobody coming in. Pogba and Lukaku wanting to leave.
I don't think the Dybala situation has helped. It teased us and ended in disaster.
Bruno seems an obvious choice but all the briefings tell us it's not even being considered.
James will be a good impact sub I think, but we need more.
CDM, CM, CM/#10, RW and a striker needed if Lukaku goes.
Just not done enough
Defensive improvements is a clear 9/10
But the rest has been a car crash
Lost Fellaini and Herrera with nobody coming in. Pogba and Lukaku wanting to leave.
I don't think the Dybala situation has helped. It teased us and ended in disaster.
Bruno seems an obvious choice but all the briefings tell us it's not even being considered.
James will be a good impact sub I think, but we need more.
CDM, CM, CM/#10, RW and a striker needed if Lukaku goes.
Just not done enough
About a 4 out of 10.
Maguire and AWB are great signings. James is meh.
We needed at least two CMs and a top attacker, and it doesn't look likely we're getting them. I mean, we knew Herrera was leaving before last season even ended and still no CM...
Keeping Pogba is great, but, on the flip side, we haven't sold any of the rubbish.
Maguire and AWB are great signings. James is meh.
We needed at least two CMs and a top attacker, and it doesn't look likely we're getting them. I mean, we knew Herrera was leaving before last season even ended and still no CM...
Keeping Pogba is great, but, on the flip side, we haven't sold any of the rubbish.
3/10, yes we have done a fantastic job at the back but seriously, we are two midfielders down, this is a bottom half of the table midfield and yet we still haven’t signed a single one. I still have hope we will sign a midfielder simply for the fact that the board and co can’t be so naive to think that is a top 4 challenging midfield.
If we get the right midfielder in it can easily push it up to an 8/10!
If we get the right midfielder in it can easily push it up to an 8/10!
If we somehow get Eriksen AND Bruno Fernandes.....10/10
Sell a few players abroad after the window closes to make up some of the money spent and its been an amazing summer
Sell a few players abroad after the window closes to make up some of the money spent and its been an amazing summer
Its our usual transfer window, pay world record fees for players who arent even top 10 in their positiion in the world, its a shit window so far, and anyone saying otherwise is deluding themselves.
Just because we wona few pre season games with a few kids, doesnt mean they will set the PL alight, just wait till seaon starts and its the same old....
Just because we wona few pre season games with a few kids, doesnt mean they will set the PL alight, just wait till seaon starts and its the same old....
We’ve absolutely needed at least one midfielder. Preferably an established one, someone with experience of playing every week. And I am talking about a proper central midfielder who can dictate the pace of the game. We weren’t even linked with such a player. But at least we could have done more with the midfielders who we were actually linked with.
Our window is hanging on the verge of being absolute crap and actually good. We started the season needing a RB, CB, CM, DM, ST & RW. All we've managed to get was a RB in Wan Bassaka, CB in Maguire and LW in Dan James. We still need a CM since Herrera left, DM since Matic is absolute crap, ST since Lukaku is leaving and Rashford, Martial and Sanchez haven't proven that they can be relied on for goals and lastly a RW who we've not filled up since we got Valencia to replace CR7. Depay doesn't count since he was a LW, Nani also played predominately on the left and so did Ashley Young. With that being said, if we do manage to get a proper CM like Bruno Fernandes who could take off the pressure from Pogba when it comes to creating and also being a proper dead ball specialist.
5/10
Defence has been improved finally, but the midfield is worse than last season, and we're taking a massive risk with that part of the pitch and the attack.
Defence has been improved finally, but the midfield is worse than last season, and we're taking a massive risk with that part of the pitch and the attack.
Definitely need one more.
6/10
Looks like Ed is holding up the De Gea announcement to dissolve any uprising. Expect a De Gea announcement on deadline day or the day after if we don't sign anyone. Add a food start to the season and everyone will be silent - playing us like toys.
Looks like Ed is holding up the De Gea announcement to dissolve any uprising. Expect a De Gea announcement on deadline day or the day after if we don't sign anyone. Add a food start to the season and everyone will be silent - playing us like toys.
5/10
We have greatly improved the defence in this window however not bringing in any CM would be totally negligent, surely Ole saw on Saturday that we are literally one injury from Pogba away from being creatively non existent.
We badly needed at least a DM & creative CM and we have failed to address either of these areas. I can sort of understand not buying a RW if they have decided to wait for Sancho next summer.
We have greatly improved the defence in this window however not bringing in any CM would be totally negligent, surely Ole saw on Saturday that we are literally one injury from Pogba away from being creatively non existent.
We badly needed at least a DM & creative CM and we have failed to address either of these areas. I can sort of understand not buying a RW if they have decided to wait for Sancho next summer.
7/10 for me.
Fernandes would make it 10/10.
4 players in is good for a transfer window, this isn’t fifa people.
We need another 7-8 out of 10 next year again though and be consistent with our signings.
The worst thing we can do now is get top 4 then not sign hardly anyone next year.
Fernandes would make it 10/10.
4 players in is good for a transfer window, this isn’t fifa people.
We need another 7-8 out of 10 next year again though and be consistent with our signings.
The worst thing we can do now is get top 4 then not sign hardly anyone next year.
Not a fan of Maguire but whatever.
Do like James and AWB.
Still need a CM, preferably proper DM.
4-5/10 by itself but marks docked further for no sales.
Final score 3/10.
Now I wouldn't mind it much if it meant more gametime for Gomes and Greenwood. But I doubt that.
Do like James and AWB.
Still need a CM, preferably proper DM.
4-5/10 by itself but marks docked further for no sales.
Final score 3/10.
Now I wouldn't mind it much if it meant more gametime for Gomes and Greenwood. But I doubt that.
3/10 There's a massive hole in midfield. How do you lose your 2nd best & starting midfielder and not replace him while knowing that you also need to replace your CDM? We are courting disaster. If Pogba gets hurt, I don't see this team winning any games with what's left of the midfield
4/10. That is a very generous score because we have improved our defense. Im really happy with the purchase of Wan Bissaka and Harry Maguire regardless of the price. When they show their worth this season we wont have to remember that we overpaid for both.
james is a decent signing but I cant really say Im that impressed. I dont see him ever making First team if Im being honest. Im looking at a Park ji Sung impact which is okay. Maybe in a few years he can change my mind but as of now he needs to focus on improving other technical attributes like dribbling.
We have only improved our defense this summer because James is one for the future. We have lost two midfielders in Herrera and Fellaini. Herrera would have been vital to the way we want to play under Ole while fellaini wouldn't have been necessary. With those two gone we would have to expect a much improved performance from Fred this season. Mctominay has also looked good this preseason but as we all know that doesn't say much till he starts performing week in/out in the league. Whether he is ready to make the jump is still unknown. There is also the issue of Matic who is on a rapid decline in performance and workrate. We have 4 players who can play the traditional midfield role which is pretty low. A single injury to pogba or fred and we might be in big trouble. I'm not sure what Ole has in mind but I doubt we can last with 4 midfielders a whole season. I'm thinking maybe we might buy again in January since we couldn't secure herreras replacement on time.
Moving on to attack and we also have a similar problem due to lukaku maybe leaving this window. The guy is currently in belgium training with anderlecht which signals his head is already gone. He is also a double agent posting club secrets on social media(JOKE). However the problem is not as severe due to Mason Greenwoods promotion and the addition of James who could provide good tactical support. Still we lack creativity due to mata also on a rapid decline. We are currently banking on Martial and rashford to deliver the goals although they both have never recorded more than 20 in a single season. I'm hoping this is their first due to more playing minutes and a positve footballing approach from a new manager. We also have extra players gomes and chong who could do a job this year but they are young and we shouldn't expect much.
Right now I do beleieve we are good enough for Top 4 because our rivals Chelsea and Arsenal are even worse. Chelsea have lost hazard which is basically 60% of their production and arsenal still have that glorious defense. Its been an underwhelming windiw but as long as we get back to top 4 we can improve on it next summer.
james is a decent signing but I cant really say Im that impressed. I dont see him ever making First team if Im being honest. Im looking at a Park ji Sung impact which is okay. Maybe in a few years he can change my mind but as of now he needs to focus on improving other technical attributes like dribbling.
We have only improved our defense this summer because James is one for the future. We have lost two midfielders in Herrera and Fellaini. Herrera would have been vital to the way we want to play under Ole while fellaini wouldn't have been necessary. With those two gone we would have to expect a much improved performance from Fred this season. Mctominay has also looked good this preseason but as we all know that doesn't say much till he starts performing week in/out in the league. Whether he is ready to make the jump is still unknown. There is also the issue of Matic who is on a rapid decline in performance and workrate. We have 4 players who can play the traditional midfield role which is pretty low. A single injury to pogba or fred and we might be in big trouble. I'm not sure what Ole has in mind but I doubt we can last with 4 midfielders a whole season. I'm thinking maybe we might buy again in January since we couldn't secure herreras replacement on time.
Moving on to attack and we also have a similar problem due to lukaku maybe leaving this window. The guy is currently in belgium training with anderlecht which signals his head is already gone. He is also a double agent posting club secrets on social media(JOKE). However the problem is not as severe due to Mason Greenwoods promotion and the addition of James who could provide good tactical support. Still we lack creativity due to mata also on a rapid decline. We are currently banking on Martial and rashford to deliver the goals although they both have never recorded more than 20 in a single season. I'm hoping this is their first due to more playing minutes and a positve footballing approach from a new manager. We also have extra players gomes and chong who could do a job this year but they are young and we shouldn't expect much.
Right now I do beleieve we are good enough for Top 4 because our rivals Chelsea and Arsenal are even worse. Chelsea have lost hazard which is basically 60% of their production and arsenal still have that glorious defense. Its been an underwhelming windiw but as long as we get back to top 4 we can improve on it next summer.
5/10
Great signing that should solve or RB situation and a fairly good signing at CB that should improve our defense.
Regarding James I think he is still raw and won’t improve us significantly this season.
But we still need a RW a CDM and a CM. Specially that Herrera left and that Matic is declining fast. If Lukaku leaves we will also need a striker.
Great 2 signings and 1 youngster. But we needed at least 5 great signings to compete. Without mentioning that we haven’t been able to get rid of any deadwood.
Great signing that should solve or RB situation and a fairly good signing at CB that should improve our defense.
Regarding James I think he is still raw and won’t improve us significantly this season.
But we still need a RW a CDM and a CM. Specially that Herrera left and that Matic is declining fast. If Lukaku leaves we will also need a striker.
Great 2 signings and 1 youngster. But we needed at least 5 great signings to compete. Without mentioning that we haven’t been able to get rid of any deadwood.
You’re not impressed with James and you don’t see James ever making the first team but think he will have a Ji Sung Park impact? Which is just “okay” Park was always picked in the big games, he was a great player and Fergie loved him. He was 100% a first team player.
I also don’t know what you mean by improve his dribbling, his dribbling is very good. It’s his end product, which will improve over time the kids 21.
Highly disagree. From preseason games he only offers pace and high workrate. His dribbling is poor. I would even say he has great decision making for a 21 year old but that's it.
Also to clarify on the JSP comparison I meant he would be used as a tactical player rather than a first team player given his high speed and workrate. If he can improve his technical quality then maybe he can offer more but I doubt it given our ambition as a club.
4/10 -- Only because of the three new signings. Also Henderson out on loan.
No deadwood players leaving/sold are a big joke.
No deadwood players leaving/sold are a big joke.
1/10 out going players. For not not finding some ways to offload at least some of the players. Gave it at least a 1 because can't expect us to magically find bidders even if we normally sell on the cheap.
7/10 for the incoming players. Overall they've had a very clear idea of whom they wanted, not going to buy for the sake of buying. The squad has holes but, they were not going to get filled in one window. Why bother buying just to fill numbers when we already have issues getting rid once they are on the books.
7/10 for the incoming players. Overall they've had a very clear idea of whom they wanted, not going to buy for the sake of buying. The squad has holes but, they were not going to get filled in one window. Why bother buying just to fill numbers when we already have issues getting rid once they are on the books.
5/10 We have addressed our defense which is good but I am not sure where our goals going to come from!
Our midfield is thin, if Pogba gets injured or out-of form we have 0 creativity. None of our Forwards are prolific goal-scorers.
Lukaku doesnt want to be here but might end up staying here, not sure what Pogba is upto. And all the deadwood are still here.
Our midfield is thin, if Pogba gets injured or out-of form we have 0 creativity. None of our Forwards are prolific goal-scorers.
Lukaku doesnt want to be here but might end up staying here, not sure what Pogba is upto. And all the deadwood are still here.
Incoming 8,5/10
AWB - 9/10 (ability and age 10/10, fee 8/10)
Harry Maguire - 8,5/10 (ability and age 9/10, fee 8/10)
Dan James - 8/10 (ability and age 8/10, fee 8/10)
Outgoing 2/10
Valencia - zero impact last season
Fellaini - we miss him in certain situations and games
Herrera - huge loss
Other issues 1/10
Lukaku situation - as it stands 0/10
Pogba situation- as it stands 5/10 (is he motivated?)
Matic situation - 0/10 (fallen of a cliff, no replacement)
DDG situation - one year left and haven’t sign his new contract yet. As it stands 4/10 (will he replicate his form from last season?)
New creative attacking midfielder/SS/false nine - 0/10 (Eriksen 9/10, Dybala 8/10)
New RW 0/10
Keeping almost all players who are average or outdated like Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Pereira, Mata, Sanchez and Young must be labeled as 0/10
Total 4/10 (as it stands atm)
AWB - 9/10 (ability and age 10/10, fee 8/10)
Harry Maguire - 8,5/10 (ability and age 9/10, fee 8/10)
Dan James - 8/10 (ability and age 8/10, fee 8/10)
Outgoing 2/10
Valencia - zero impact last season
Fellaini - we miss him in certain situations and games
Herrera - huge loss
Other issues 1/10
Lukaku situation - as it stands 0/10
Pogba situation- as it stands 5/10 (is he motivated?)
Matic situation - 0/10 (fallen of a cliff, no replacement)
DDG situation - one year left and haven’t sign his new contract yet. As it stands 4/10 (will he replicate his form from last season?)
New creative attacking midfielder/SS/false nine - 0/10 (Eriksen 9/10, Dybala 8/10)
New RW 0/10
Keeping almost all players who are average or outdated like Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Pereira, Mata, Sanchez and Young must be labeled as 0/10
Total 4/10 (as it stands atm)
^This is pretty spot on.
We have addressed our backline issues pretty well. Unfortunately losing Herrera and doing nothing about it just shifts the issue. And can not agree enough with the last line...
"Keeping almost all players who are average or outdated like Rojo, Jones, Smalling, Pereira, Mata, Sanchez and Young must be labeled as 0/10"
Throw in Darmien and it is just laughable... sadly laughable.