Yeah there’s the odd right footer where he gets some power on it. I think he could probably become more two-footed in time.
Rasmus Højlund | Signed for United
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Sancho is just shy of six foot with a bigger build than Bruno who's got pipe cleaners for guns.
What are you on about? The majority of those are quality and offer exactly the kind of movement we are missing.
I think everyone agrees that he is not a finished product. There is definitely some work to be done. How he learns and improves would be interesting to watch. Hope he has that will power in him.
Hojlund is without doubt better than the likes of Broja, Nketiah and Joao Pedro. Let's not talk utter shite here.
The same Jesus who was 'incredibly good business' at £50m scored a whopping 11 league goals last season, underperformed his xG and was doing so at 25 years of age. It's easy to hyperbolise to make a point, isn't it?
anyone who makes lIverpool look a stupid as Diego did is OK in my books!!
The most important thing is he gets into chances. If he has 2-3 shots at goal every game, we're fine. He should get more clinical, but he's only 20 and will improve if he works his socks off.
He does seem to have a bit of a habit of hitting the goalkeeper!
The top scorers are not necessarily the ones who have the highest conversion rate but the ones with more attempts especially from high probability range. I've no doubt a player with his style will score goals in our team.
He pretty much matches his xG which says he scores the chances he should score. If he replicates that here, that'd be a great start.
I hope people temper their expectations. If Hojland breaks double digits in the league, I would consider that a success. Martial got 11 his debut season , and his selling club inserted a ballon d’Or clause, which I take to mean Martial was rated a lot higher than Hojland is currently. Maybe he gets 6 or 7 like Ronaldo. Hopefully he hits the ground running. I’ve read people on here saying he should get 15-20 league goals, which sounds delusional. People will be disappointed, most likely, but Hojland is going to run his socks off like Weghorst at minimum, and should be able to pot a few of those Wout spurned. Be patient, everyone.
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Yep, everyone used to bang on about what a great finisher Ruud was but honestly what made him elite was his movement, he used to find himself getting chance after chance, missing plenty but still delivering the goods.
By no means am I setting him a target of 20, but it wouldn't surprise me if he gets it. Poachers get goals in teams with high offensive output. I hope that improves for us again this season. The amount of chances he'll get from Rashford/Bruno/Mount/Antony shooting towards goal, and Hojlund sticking a foot out when its parried/saved - that could easily be 10 goals alone over the course of the season.
his movement is good but finishing and composure are not on the required level of United's no1 striker. I hope he can get some quick poacher's goals right from the start to build confidence and in the meantime work hard on his finishing with Benni. But people on here are seriuosly overestimating his current level I'm afraid. For me even Sancho as a false 9 starts over Rasmus right now. Bad planning from the club as we havent really improved the striker position for this season. Hopefully it will show to be a good deal for the future.
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He seems to occasionally pull out that strike which has no backlift and catches keepers off guard. When or if, he polishes his game up he could have all the tools to be great for us.
Højlund is a big improvement on what we had last season.
That doesnt fill me with much confidence
Those 1 on 1 misses were so bad! Doesn't appear to be very clinical with this finishing, more of a hit and hope.
He's 20 yrs old for FFS !
Tell you what, there's a few fluffed chances here for sure but he gets into some excellent positions throughout, looks very neat and tidy on the ball with close control.
Also looks strong, fending off defenders constantly.
We haven't had a focal point like this for a while now, this is exactly the type of player we needed.
Right to be worried, Kane was scoring 30 a season at his age. In training I mean.
I'm sorry what? I could show you a video of any striker on the planet missing chances, that's what happens, as no one scores every chance they have.
That video had the opposite effect on me. He looks an absolute handful to play against, isn't scared to have a go and looks to have real good movement. If he can improve from here, he's going to be an absolute star for us.
I like his pace and power, could translate well into the PL and he won't be shrugged off by other CBs/FBs, not sure he does well in heading but at least he is strong and fast enough to manage ground battles.
What he needs to do is first to adapt to EtH's tactics, then improve his finishing, those are the main 2 areas he needs to work on at first.
What he needs to do is first to adapt to EtH's tactics, then improve his finishing, those are the main 2 areas he needs to work on at first.
Some like Zlatan were the quickest 0-5meters
I guess time will show but right now I disagreee, he is a marginal improvement over Wout as he's quicker and has better movement, but being better than Wout is a really low bar. I dont think Rasmus improves United in terms of a possible title challenge.
exactly! He is a good prospect but undoubtedly very raw and in no way a sure thing so it is bad planning from the club to put all hopes for the season on his shoulders. He may be a hit his first season but that is very much unlikely and an unfair expectation of the lad.
I get the point that youre making, but for me he just doesnt instill that hope, that he has "it". He should of course improve in all aspect of his game as he matures but I just dont see him as a prodigy like I see lets say Garnacho. That doesnt mean that he wont become an efficient player. But I dont see a potential for a world class player. Also, yes nobody scores every chance but his 1 on 1 with the keepers are seriously bad and that should be bread and butter for a striker.
I think many need to dampen their expectations for this season. A lot of work to do.
No, this is just plain wrong. Weghorst didn't manage a goal for us in 17 league games and only scored twice in 31 games.
He absolutely does. He might not currently be good enough to lead us to the title, but he's a significant upgrade on what we had. Therefore, logically he should take us closer to a title challenge.
My main gripe with this transfer is it has been done too late again. He'll be coming in with no pre-season and no time to train in the system with the squad. I suspect we'll be only seeing him off the bench for the first month of the season and if/when he hasn't scored a goal in about 100 minutes of playing time, the doom lords will be ringing their bells and crying about how we could have had Kane for just another £3.99 more than the 200 million* we're paying for Hojlund
*as reported in one of the tabloids probably
*as reported in one of the tabloids probably
What do you mean "exactly"? Kane had 3 Premier League goals to his name on his 21st Birthday. He also absolutely stunk the place out at Norwich and Leicester on loan.
Not every striker that turns world class is some teenage phenom like Haaland.
Garnacho isn't composed at all, he missed quite a lot of big chances last year for us and at the minute he also has a long way to go and a lot to improve on.
Hojlund isn't the finished article but he definitely improves us on what we had last year, how can he not? We had a sick note and wout with 0 league goals, the bar isn't high to achieve that.
From what I've seen of him his presence, movement and general play will be enough to see an improvement to overall play and if he carries on his progression he's going to be a real top striker for us and one who could lead our line for upwards of a decade.
Some of you need to take some pills for your meltdown. Kane was stinking the place out on loan at the age of 20 with 0 goals. At the age of 21 a grand total of 3 goals.
This is a kid who looks miles better than Kane did at the same age.
This is a kid who looks miles better than Kane did at the same age.
That doesnt fill me with much confidence
Those 1 on 1 misses were so bad! Doesn't appear to be very clinical with this finishing, more of a hit and hope.
Hojlund averages as many shots per goal as other better attackers, the shot compilation paints the same picture if it is done for any player.
Premier league top 20 goal scorers
| Rk | Player | Gls | PK | NPG | Sh | Open Play shots | Shots per goal |
| 1 | Erling Haaland | 36 | 7 | 29 | 116 | 109 | 4 |
| 2 | Harry Kane | 30 | 5 | 25 | 124 | 119 | 5 |
| 3 | Ivan Toney | 20 | 6 | 14 | 87 | 81 | 6 |
| 4 | Mohamed Salah | 19 | 2 | 17 | 121 | 119 | 7 |
| 5 | Callum Wilson | 18 | 3 | 15 | 70 | 67 | 5 |
| 6 | Marcus Rashford | 17 | 0 | 17 | 108 | 108 | 6 |
| 7 | Martin Ødegaard | 15 | 0 | 15 | 93 | 93 | 6 |
| 8 | Ollie Watkins | 15 | 1 | 14 | 84 | 83 | 6 |
| 9 | Martinelli | 15 | 0 | 15 | 79 | 79 | 5 |
| 10 | Bukayo Saka | 14 | 2 | 12 | 86 | 84 | 7 |
| 11 | Aleksandar Mitrović | 14 | 4 | 10 | 85 | 81 | 9 |
| 12 | Harvey Barnes | 13 | 0 | 13 | 72 | 72 | 6 |
| 13 | Rodrigo | 13 | 1 | 12 | 66 | 65 | 6 |
| 14 | Gabriel Jesus | 11 | 1 | 10 | 76 | 75 | 8 |
| 15 | Miguel Almirón | 11 | 0 | 11 | 69 | 69 | 6 |
| 16 | Phil Foden | 11 | 0 | 11 | 46 | 46 | 4 |
| 17 | Roberto Firmino | 11 | 0 | 11 | 39 | 39 | 4 |
| 18 | James Maddison | 10 | 1 | 9 | 83 | 82 | 9 |
| 19 | Son Heung-min | 10 | 0 | 10 | 81 | 81 | 8 |
| 20 | Alexis Mac Allister | 10 | 6 | 4 | 80 | 74 | 20 |
| 21 | Eberechi Eze | 10 | 1 | 9 | 70 | 69 | 8 |
| 22 | Alexander Isak | 10 | 2 | 8 | 49 | 47 | 6 |
| 23 | Taiwo Awoniyi | 10 | 0 | 10 | 35 | 35 | 4 |
Few random examples
| Rk | Player | Gls | PK | NPG | Sh | Open Play shots | Shots per goal |
1 | Mbappe | 29 | 5 | 24 | 144 | 139 | 6 |
2 | Osimhen | 26 | 2 | 24 | 132 | 130 | 6 |
3 | Lewandowski | 23 | 0 | 23 | 134 | 134 | 6 |
4 | Lautaro | 21 | 1 | 20 | 125 | 124 | 6 |
5 | Benzema | 19 | 7 | 12 | 99 | 92 | 8 |
6 | Hojlund | 9 | 0 | 9 | 54 | 54 | 6 |
He averages 6 shots per goal, that's more or less same for any player except Haaland.
We scored 58 PL goals last season. City bagged 94 goals and even if we discount them Arsenal had 88. Thats still 30 goals more and I think we all agree that for a title challenge we will need to up the ante on that front let say at least 20 goals more. The club put all the eggs in the Rasmus basket so now its on the poor lad to give us a large proportion of that and on the evidence I just dont think he will (but that is not a slight on him, as it shouldnt be expected from a 20yr old).
A lot of players looked miles better than Kane at 20, but that is not the point. Rasmus may well become a world beater but its very unlikely its gonna happen this season.
Pretty good for a 20 year old. He gets into lots of good shooting positions and he generates a hell of a lot of power on his left foot with little backlift. He's not clinical yet but we have players like Rashford, he cant be any worse than that. 10 league goals would be a good first season.
Look at the amount of chances Lewandowski missed. Strikers miss clear chances all the time. The likes of Lewandowski create such a high amount that eventually they get a goal.
If you see his game against Finland where he got 3 goals, he could have doubled his total if he had taken all his chances.That doesnt fill me with much confidence
Those 1 on 1 misses were so bad! Doesn't appear to be very clinical with this finishing, more of a hit and hope.
I'm cautiously optimistic. I think that video illustrates a lot of good basics - good connection, hits the target, forces the keep into a save. Composure is a natural part of maturing, if he can be more clinical one-on-one he'll be consistently breaking double digits and hopefully adding a lot of other elements to the team. Might be a bit streaky like Rashford, but honestly that would be fine. 2 streaky forwards are infinitely better than 1+ Weghorst.
Why are people pissing their pants over Hojlund's "All Shots" video? You do understand that every striker in the world will have a lot of missed chances in this kind of video, right? Even the ones who score lots!
From that video, most of the shots were on target. Most. Not half, not slightly more than half, but comfortably 3/4 of them. In addition, he hit the woodwork at least six times, so we might be talking about an even better goals per minute average if he had a little more fortune.
If he's not putting many over or wide, then that's the take home because he's constantly putting the keeper to work.
From that video, most of the shots were on target. Most. Not half, not slightly more than half, but comfortably 3/4 of them. In addition, he hit the woodwork at least six times, so we might be talking about an even better goals per minute average if he had a little more fortune.
If he's not putting many over or wide, then that's the take home because he's constantly putting the keeper to work.
Exactly. If you're good, everyone only remembers your goals. No one remembers your misses.
Hojlund is a big upgrade on what we had last season. Him alone will not close the gap to the likes of City and Arsenal goal output though. If we learn to progress the ball better from the back into the final third and maintain dominance over prolonged spells in-game it will help the attackers in general produce more.
If Voldemort returns and is still the same player then I'll really begin to fancy our attack and a title challenge wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility.
If Voldemort returns and is still the same player then I'll really begin to fancy our attack and a title challenge wouldn't be outside the realms of possibility.
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