As i said; IF we tried it and Levy slapped some crazy over 100 mil fee for him then fine, lets go for Hojlund. But if we gave up without really pushing then i think it is mistake.
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FFP has changed for this season and will be changing further next season so what City and Chelsea have historically done won't be an option going forward, note how quickly the 8 year contract loophole got closed once Boehly found it. Our FFP issue is genuine in that we massively overspent last summer in a year without CL football, the Antony deal was essentially borrowing from future spending. We need to get our business done at around 100M net this year to get out of FFP jail for next summer. Of course if we could get Kane for 100M on September 1st we would do it but it is just kicking the can down the road at that point and it would probably be done on the proviso that we are going to spend the 2024 transfer window signing free agents and loan deals to balance the books.
I think we’ve already pushed for him though. Before we went for Hojlund it was reported we’ve given up on Kane because Levy is not open to selling to us. If I recall correctly
If he ends up on similar trajectory path like fellow Danish Jon Dahl Tomasson, can he be considered a success despite the steep fee ?
I don't think that we ever sent a formal bid.
You would say exactly the same about a 20 year old Lewandowski or Cavani. You have to be extremely naturally talented to be that convincing as a young striker (Agüero, Ronaldo or Benzema).
Luckily, what or who we are convinced of or not is entirely irrelevant.
I agree based on the “all touches” videos I’ve seen of him - which without having watched full games of Atalanta is the best available info to form a judgement. I think nearly 70m on his is borderline farcical and a huge risk that I’m not sure we should take.
What does it matter how much P$G offer if he won't sign a contract with them with us in the race?
Not arsed at all about their supposed interest
Not arsed at all about their supposed interest
How many times? It’s a thread of videos - that means there are several performances linked below if you go to the video on Twitter. The Juve performance was one of his better ones.
Be surprised if Villa sold Watkins mid season
Watch all performances in the thread. They are linked below the Juve tweet.
Yeah irrelevant argument completely
Well, it's your prerogative to hold onto whatever hope you want. If Mbappe was still hanging around and PSG wanted rid of him for 100 million on September 1 we'd be mad to refuse that. If Barca made Frenkie de Jong homeless we'd be mad not to offer him a contract.
None of this is remotely realistic though. They don't wanna sell to us, they're not suddenly going to panic on the last day. Why would they, they've had all summer to make up their choice and assess the options. Whether we think their decisions are good or bad, it's irrelevant, they are what they are. And that's why we're moving forward with plans that are actually going to happen while some fans simply can't get over the fact Kane isn't coming here this year.
It's not all bad though. If Spurs don't sell then a player of Hojlunds profile will not prevent us offering a competitive package to Kane for free.
So what do you think we should do?
Wow HOT news right there!!
"Undicated" 
Spurs will want more than €100m from us though, probably from Bayern too. They're thinking in pounds.
All reliable reports suggest he only wants to come to United.
Exactly but neither Lewandowski nor Cavani moved for such high fees at that age. For every Lewandowski and Cavani there are 20 strikers that didnt made it big.
Kane appears to be a non-starter but also think Ramos is more ready to step in and do the job as starting number 9. Almost inevitable Hojlund will be starting every week - it’s almost unfair on him. Look at how Nunez faired last season and he was far more ready on paper than Hojlund is.
Of course they do. You missed the starting point of this conversation.
That implies you think he was good at it but Weghorst was shite at holding the ball up.
He was shite at everything.
That's because it was 14-16 years ago and the market is completely different now. Not only that, but there's an extreme lack of high rated young strikers these days.
I do agree it's a risk, but I'd rather pay £60m for someone who has more potential than £40m for someone who won't ever be good enough.
"Undicated"
The opposite of indicated. In other words, we haven't told Atalanta shit.
I'd normally dismiss this source but what they're saying seems pretty credible
Not sure what Lewa, Cavani not being complete at 20 has to do with Hojlund. It’s like saying because they turned out great despite this, that Hojlund will do too. Weird logic.
Then says that luckily we are signing him anyway so it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. Let’s just shut down the discussion boards then shall we?
i sorted of expected a press release from Utd like this, just to kick Levy's chair from under him. Take that Daniel for trying to use Utd to get more out of Bayern, although i see the usual 'madrid are interested' is now dropped in.
I think he definitely does, but PSG are supposedly offering a deal that Atalanta prefer. Apparently they might be willing to include Ekitike, although Atalanta are about to sign that Toure fella so that offer might have lost its allure.
Either way, PSG are willing to throw more money at both the player and the club. If he hadn't made it so clear that he's not interested in PSG then we probably would have pulled out by now, no point in getting into a bidding war with them. It's probably driving the price up a bit though, and is making any kind of compromise take longer than it would have.
Bit annoying to be honest, if PSG weren't involved I feel like this one would be a lot closer to getting a positive outcome. Might even have signed by now.
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Some of these performances are quite good. If Martial had the kind of presence up top then people here be having an orgasm. I can definitely see the potential.
Some of these performances are quite good. If Martial had the kind of presence up top then people here be having an orgasm. I can definitely see the potential.
Completely agree.
The sweeping hype and lack of normal logic with this one is a feeling almost reminiscent of Brexit.
And like with Brexit I’m just left hoping that all those who are in favour of it are proven right and can see something that I can’t!
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Exactly, ending an argument saying "it doesnt matter what you think it makes no difference" should be banned here, after all this is a forum to discuss about the club. We all know beforehand whats discussed here makes absolutely no difference.Not sure what Lewa, Cavani not being complete at 20 has to do with Hojlund. It’s like saying because they turned out great despite this, that Hojlund will do too. Weird logic.
Then says that luckily we are signing him anyway so it doesn’t matter what anyone thinks. Let’s just shut down the discussion boards then shall we?
This was one month ago. Things changed meanwhile.
I initially thought he looked a decent prospect - but as this has dragged on a bit, suddenly he feels like the second coming.
I like that we aren't just seemingly bowing to clubs demands though. Hope we get it done this week for ~ £55m so we can get another defensive midfielder in.
I like that we aren't just seemingly bowing to clubs demands though. Hope we get it done this week for ~ £55m so we can get another defensive midfielder in.
I agree with your statement but the market is that way because clubs are making it that way. It doesnt mean it'll be like that forever, we can move on to another striker or get another (I know were tired of that) step gap striker. Im all in for signing potential and paying big bucks when we see it. We did it with Rooney and it paid off, but that doesnt mean we should be paying for any youngster. If I saw top potential in Hojlund I wouldnt hesitate to pay the 70M its just that Im not convinced. I think it's another Antony situation.
So you’re implying that any striker that costs 40m or less is not good enough. Dortmund signed Haaland for 20m, City signed Alvarez for 14m, Frankfurt got Kolo Muni for free, Chelsea just got Jackson for 35m(who’s looking good for now) even Hojlund cost Atalanta 12m. This is proof that you don’t need to splash ridiculous amounts to get good players like you are suggesting
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