Yeah I’ve seen enough of him over the past 18 months that I really think his best chance to have a career at this level is to just solely focus on his movement in the box, and then be deployed as an off the bench running maniac looking to cause havoc. Hes far too limited as a striker especially as he tires,
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss a horrific month of December and a depressing FOUR defeats in a row - the latest coming against Wolves and Newcastle.
They discuss how much blame is on Ruben Amorim and rank our squad against other Premier League teams.
Do we have any chance of avoiding defeat at Anfield?
The worst player to wear the 9 shirt in my lifetime. Atrocious.
Should be our back up centre forward to someone far better and yet to be signed, tries hard but still raw.
Thought he was decent tonight, if he had finished that chance I don't see what more people would expect. he regularly came out on top in the duels with CBs, held the ball well enough - generally kept possession. Schar must have fouled him literally about 6 times and got a yellow right at the end. I saw some in the matchday thread saying his touch was poor because that bullet header into his gut wasn't brought down gracefully, sometimes you just have to accept people have made their minds up and can't be objective.
I hope that nobody will wrote on his insta/x/fb page that he played badly. It would be really over the top.
I mean, probably he would need to, i don't know....delete his account after that kind of abuse
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So, i will say that he tried. Not his fault that he can't do......something. Anything.
I mean, probably he would need to, i don't know....delete his account after that kind of abuse
.So, i will say that he tried. Not his fault that he can't do......something. Anything.
Whilst I feel sorry for him with the total lack of service he gets, it would still be nice to see him do a bit more to get himself involved in games.
Not convincing at all. Granted the rest of the team as a whole isn't functioning anywhere near a decent level but you can still find players that are doing a decent enough job (Maz, Mainoo, Amad, hell even Maguire) but I'm not seeing it with Hojlund. His contribution to the lack of attacking cohesion is enormous with his inability to hold up a ball or lay it off correctly.
He defintiely needs a loan, get out the firing line & work on his game whilst he's young because right now it is absolutely nowhere near.
He defintiely needs a loan, get out the firing line & work on his game whilst he's young because right now it is absolutely nowhere near.
Got nothing about him, useless in almost every scenario a striker will naturally find themselves in.
He needs a sequence of loans.
He needs a sequence of loans.
Put him in a team that can press and he'll come good.
Play him in an incompetent team that brings him away from the middle of the penalty area and he isn't going to shine
Play him in an incompetent team that brings him away from the middle of the penalty area and he isn't going to shine
He's worse than Weghorst. Useless player, so far off the level needed for this league. Insane how we threw away 70m again.
What league is he suited to?
He's feeding off scraps with a midfield of Casemiro and Eriksen. Needs to be a backup striker to an established number 9. Feel the pressure is getting to him as he's our only real STR.
Isak is miles better than him.
He spends 90% of the game wrestling with the center-backs.
He's just meh.
He spends 90% of the game wrestling with the center-backs.
He's just meh.
A physically weaker league, slower, one where his lack of technique isn't shown up so much ... The premier league is by far the toughest league. Loads of players aren't suited for it. I'm sure he'd do fine in the Bundesliga at a mid table side.
Am I allowed to call him a donkey?
Fun part is that "skinny" Isak is excellent in hold up play while "strong and tall" Hojlund is shit at it.
It’s worth remembering at Hojlund’s age, Isak wasn’t scoring at a big rate for Sociedad. He’s too young, raw and should never have been given this role in the squad at a club like United.
You have to be so special to be a top striker at 20/21 and he’s not that.
You have to be so special to be a top striker at 20/21 and he’s not that.
He is awful. I wouldn't pay 10 million for him, let alone 70 (or whatever it was that we spent.)
Genuinely don't think he would stand out there and I don't rate that highly. I can see him playing for someone like Lille one day
Very poor tonight.
Did you see what kind of havoc Isak was causing even when he was isolated from his teammates? The biggest issue with Hojlund is that he's a piss poor footballer and opposition center backs have nothing to worry about when up against him
He makes me miss the real Lukaku. At least the real one had 20 goals a season in him.
I don't think so. It is labelled as abuse these days. "Not so good" is maximum as you can go.
Comparing him to Lukaku is an insult to be honest. Lukaku is streets ahead
I felt last season there was at least something there. Not enough to be top level but something to work with at least. It's not easy being a centre forward in this team I'm sure but he's been really poor this season. And that first touch is nothing short of terrible for the most part.
Looks likely he's another who ultimately won't cut it unfortunately.
Looks likely he's another who ultimately won't cut it unfortunately.
I know. Hojlund is the worst of all wannabes
Not saying he'd stand out, but that he's at best a mid table Bundesliga CF where he has pace to run in behind but shouldn't be more than that
He looked special in Spain and they paid less for him. Looked like he was trying to score GOTS in the first half, whereas we're relieved if our guy can actually keep control of the ball when it's played to him. In an ideal world, someone like Hojlund is the understudy to a striker of Isak's class, but they're certainly not peers or equipped to do the same job for their respective team. Seeing them on the same pitch really brings that home, if that was necessary.
Just blows my mind to see us happily outlay as much money as we did for a player that is so poor technically. I don’t care what position, that should literally never happen.
Their styles are similar but Lukaku was also a very underrated creator and had a true wand of a left peg.
Point stands though that outlaying 65m+ on a player that can’t control a ball under pressure is just an abysmal decision.
You do make me laugh sometimes. You have such a positive outlook and see sunny side up most of the time, then you have a moment of annoyance and the positivity leaves you temporarily. We're making him look worse than he is, but yeah, his situation is like being taken up an educational ladder you're not equipped for and then struggling to tread water.
He's not ready for the PL and it's on us that he was brought here prematurely, but worse than that, then thrust into the main striker role at the club.
I really thought he wasn't that bad. Held the ball up quite we la few times and had a good chance.
His touch and lack of arial ability are huge concerns though.
His touch and lack of arial ability are huge concerns though.
That is true. But I just really have lost all hope in Hojlund. He's still young, but I don't see it for him here. All he tries to do is wrestle center backs and everything else part of his game isn't progressing at all. If he was a backup like you're saying, sure... but we spent 70m on him. And if we do one day sign a top CF... Hojlund won't be getting the minutes he needs to progress.I suppose this isn't strictly about Rasmus himself, but I was recently watching the season highlights of our 2010-11 title win, and holy feck, just how clutch and lethal a finisher was Javier Hernandez?
I guess the reason I'm making this post here is, even that version of Hernandez - the clinical poacher who would routinely score big goals in big games, and was always a handful for defenders to handle because of his pace and movement - was largely only a supersub, or third choice at best.
That same Hernandez, who scored 20-plus goals (including about a million against just Chelsea alone) in two of his four seasons here, could never really tie down a place in the starting XI because for all his goalscoring instincts, his all-round game was not quite as up to par. Even in games where he would come off the bench and bag a brace, there was still a sense that his ball control and general passing wasn't up to the level required of a Manchester United striker. He was (rightfully) behind Rooney, Berbatov and later, Van Persie and Welbeck, in the pecking order.
Now, that was the quality we used to have. Those were the standards we used to strictly abide by. Even a goal machine like Chicharito was never guaranteed a place in the team if he wasn't pulling up his socks and working his ass off for the others. A 20-goal a season striker, who would be worth their weight in gold in today's market, was a third-choice option for us.
Yes, I know, different times and different eras, but as a club, and as a fanbase, where have those standards gone?
Just how, and why, did we end up with Rasmus Hojlund (and Joshua Zirkzee) as our two leading strikers for an entire season? Two largely unknown qualities who so far have shown pretty much nothing either here, or at their previous clubs, to suggest that they are worth the big investments we foolishly made in them. Two strikers, who between them, have four league goals in half a season.
Nothing personal against Rasmus, who seems like a nice enough lad with a pretty spunky personality on social media, but yikes, I shudder to think of all our squads of yesteryear, and how even our third or fourth choice strikers were considerably better and more of a threat than this current inept duo.
I'm not even sure I can totally blame just Rasmus for the current predicament. It's not his fault the club sunk so much money into him, nor is it his fault that he is forced to lead the line for a team in disarray despite being painfully average himself. But it does speak volumes when our primary goalscorer doesn't remotely look like he's ever scoring.
I've heard the service arguments before, and I'm not getting into that too deep anymore, except just to say that he doesn't help himself with his poor ball control, and strange tendency to wrestle defenders to the ground (hilariously, he's mostly bested by them even in this regard).
He looks well built, but isn't exactly "strong" on the ball, getting constantly bullied by even the most bang average defenders around. He can't win headers, he doesn't make the right runs, and is passing is non-existent too. Even all of this would be tolerable if he was the clinical type who could go missing in games but bury that one golden chance, but nope, on the odd occassion he does get a touch inside the box or a sight on goal, he doesn't exactly instill the most confidence.
Not a fan of his recent antics too, tbh, when he's letting his frustrations boil over and taking them out at his team-mates for not playing him in with inch-perfect passes. Wouldn't be a good look if it was prime RVN doing it, never mind an ineffective striker with a whooping one league goal this season.
This was all a little too depressing to think about, so in the spirit of reminiscing happier times, just how good was that Hernandez back-header against Stoke?
I guess the reason I'm making this post here is, even that version of Hernandez - the clinical poacher who would routinely score big goals in big games, and was always a handful for defenders to handle because of his pace and movement - was largely only a supersub, or third choice at best.
That same Hernandez, who scored 20-plus goals (including about a million against just Chelsea alone) in two of his four seasons here, could never really tie down a place in the starting XI because for all his goalscoring instincts, his all-round game was not quite as up to par. Even in games where he would come off the bench and bag a brace, there was still a sense that his ball control and general passing wasn't up to the level required of a Manchester United striker. He was (rightfully) behind Rooney, Berbatov and later, Van Persie and Welbeck, in the pecking order.
Now, that was the quality we used to have. Those were the standards we used to strictly abide by. Even a goal machine like Chicharito was never guaranteed a place in the team if he wasn't pulling up his socks and working his ass off for the others. A 20-goal a season striker, who would be worth their weight in gold in today's market, was a third-choice option for us.
Yes, I know, different times and different eras, but as a club, and as a fanbase, where have those standards gone?
Just how, and why, did we end up with Rasmus Hojlund (and Joshua Zirkzee) as our two leading strikers for an entire season? Two largely unknown qualities who so far have shown pretty much nothing either here, or at their previous clubs, to suggest that they are worth the big investments we foolishly made in them. Two strikers, who between them, have four league goals in half a season.
Nothing personal against Rasmus, who seems like a nice enough lad with a pretty spunky personality on social media, but yikes, I shudder to think of all our squads of yesteryear, and how even our third or fourth choice strikers were considerably better and more of a threat than this current inept duo.
I'm not even sure I can totally blame just Rasmus for the current predicament. It's not his fault the club sunk so much money into him, nor is it his fault that he is forced to lead the line for a team in disarray despite being painfully average himself. But it does speak volumes when our primary goalscorer doesn't remotely look like he's ever scoring.
I've heard the service arguments before, and I'm not getting into that too deep anymore, except just to say that he doesn't help himself with his poor ball control, and strange tendency to wrestle defenders to the ground (hilariously, he's mostly bested by them even in this regard).
He looks well built, but isn't exactly "strong" on the ball, getting constantly bullied by even the most bang average defenders around. He can't win headers, he doesn't make the right runs, and is passing is non-existent too. Even all of this would be tolerable if he was the clinical type who could go missing in games but bury that one golden chance, but nope, on the odd occassion he does get a touch inside the box or a sight on goal, he doesn't exactly instill the most confidence.
Not a fan of his recent antics too, tbh, when he's letting his frustrations boil over and taking them out at his team-mates for not playing him in with inch-perfect passes. Wouldn't be a good look if it was prime RVN doing it, never mind an ineffective striker with a whooping one league goal this season.
This was all a little too depressing to think about, so in the spirit of reminiscing happier times, just how good was that Hernandez back-header against Stoke?
That's the worst reason I've ever heard to not buy what we most desperately need.
He's poor at this point of his career, almost nothing sticks when he's under any sort of pressure. Even when he receives the ball in, the pass is always wayward
What are you rambling on aboutI hope that nobody will wrote on his insta/x/fb page that he played badly. It would be really over the top.
I mean, probably he would need to, i don't know....delete his account after that kind of abuse
So, i will say that he tried. Not his fault that he can't do......something. Anything.
Oh we absolutely need one. I'm saying it's why my belief in Hojlund is gone for this club. We will sign a CF eventually, and Hojlunds minutes will be done (deservedly so, he's not cut out for it).
Someone called him shit on instagram and he messaged them privately.
He's been getting an easy pass but I don't think he's all that. His game has some basic flaws that cannot be improved on IMO. His touch is bad, though physically imposing he's kind of weak, he doesn't have pace as well. If he had raw abilities we can at least use him as a sub in the future but he lacks basic qualities. Likes of Raul Jimenez, Chris Wood would offer much more for us now than him.