The thing is he doesn’t believe it’s a weakness that’s how he plays football. If he was to go to a less physical league or lower tier league he would play the same way and would look a lot better using that style.There are two things that scare more than anything else with Rasmus:
1. He is still fighting two giant centre backs all match, initiating contact and then being unable to deal with it. When what he should be doing is scaring the living sh*t out of them because he will absolutely outrun them with anything in behind or in the channels. He should actually be leaving a yard of space and daring them to square up, because he is seriously rapid.
2. As a team, we're still choosing to ask him to 'post-up' with his back to goal, pinging balls into him at pace. When it's not working, week after week, we keep doing it anyway.
I can only blame Rasmus so far. If you have a Berbatov up top you wouldn't constantly ping it into space and ask him to use his non-existent pace. But we're always playing to Rasmus' weaknesses. I don't get what Amorim has in mind here, to me it speaks of being overly wed to one type of striker with one type of role, when we have don't have that actualy player.
If you want to objectively assess that, you would need to look at each club who we see as rivals for place contention and see what the data says about their #9 deputies. Another issue is that last season is last season. A whole year ago - there are no guarantees on anyone who has underperformed for an extended period of time. The data from last year has a very hot streak for Rasmus and then a sliding scale that was suggesting this was more likely to be on the cards than him going in the other direction, no?It's worth watching the compilation from last season to remember what he's capable of
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1dunl3s/rasmus_højlund_best_of_2324/
There are deficiencies in his game, but he's nowhere near as bad as what he's showing this season. He just seems completely shot in terms of confidence, and like a different player entirely.
It could just be a very bad case of second season slump, or him struggling to get to grips with a new system/manager, maybe both.
He's almost certainly not good enough to be our starting striker, but he is certainly good enough to deputise and be a strong rotation option.
Amorim seems to be trying to play him into form, but he needs some proper physical and mental rest to refocus.
If you want to objectively assess that, you would need to look at each club who we see as rivals for place contention and see what the data says about their #9 deputies. Another issue is that last season is last season. A whole year ago - there are no guarantees on anyone who has underperformed for an extended period of time. The data from last year has a very hot streak for Rasmus and then a sliding scale that was suggesting this was more likely to be on the cards than him going in the other direction, no?
There’s a reason why clubs give a finite amount of time before cutting their losses and I would genuinely say things are getting precarious for Højlund in that regard now - if he’s like this through to May, I seriously doubt he gets another term here in any capacity.
12 shots is damning. Take him out of the spotlight.
But we’re a football club not a creche - we’re a football club in dire straits and that means grace periods shorten even more. After a prolonged period of time, the patch looks more anomalous than mean, which is a very serious problem for any player, let alone Rasmus. The period of good form buys credit to be paid forward - the longer the good form, the more credit (see the tolerance for Rashford as opposed to Martial before he left) and pretty much all of that purple patch is dust now, which means that their needs to be a top up that keeps the club invested and not looking to move on.Does ability just disappear though? He showed he had far greater attributes than are on display this season.
You just have to take one look at him to see his confidence is on the floor. That will affect the performance of any player. Then consider the external circumstances, new manager, struggling team. Then the fact that he's only 21.
He is undeniably playing badly, awfully even - but this isn't a case where a player has never shown what he is capable of, or where he is clearly performing to the best of his ability and that clearly isn't good enough. As mostly everyone has said since he was signed he needs to not be our sole focal point and needs to play the 'understudy' role. Unfortunately we're not in a financial position where that's even possible.
I expect we very may well see him leave end of the season, and I do generally agree we should learn from the mistakes of the last decade and move players on quickly if they're not good enough - but the odds have been stacked against him this season.
It will probably help him regain his confidence, refocus and get out of this negative spiral. To be honest, his change of scenery is needed so he revitalize his career and to see if United can get some money back from this ordeal. He's a bad fit here and not good enough for PL standards. There are plenty of players who made it after being terrible in the PL. Moving to the Bundesliga or back to Serie A would probably save his career.Does change in scenery help improve a player's first touch?
It's worth watching the compilation from last season to remember what he's capable of
https://www.reddit.com/r/reddevils/comments/1dunl3s/rasmus_højlund_best_of_2324/
There are deficiencies in his game, but he's nowhere near as bad as what he's showing this season. He just seems completely shot in terms of confidence, and like a different player entirely.
It could just be a very bad case of second season slump, or him struggling to get to grips with a new system/manager, maybe both.
He's almost certainly not good enough to be our starting striker, but he is certainly good enough to deputise and be a strong rotation option.
Amorim seems to be trying to play him into form, but he needs some proper physical and mental rest to refocus.
Not to start this debate again but surely this part you guys are seeing much less of an issue compared to the actual touch?Seems to have regressed massively - alongside having absolute no confidence in himself.
I don't understand his constant battles to try duel with CB's. There's been time where he's been played in over the top this season, and instead of going for the ball, he cuts across to make contact with the defender unnecessarily.
You can tell that he doesn't trust his first touch - when he does manage to get hold of it, he gives it away because he's been concentrating on his touch too much rather than acknowledging what is around him and thinking of his next move. That comes with confidence so hopefully he has the mentality to snap out of it.
I think his off the ball movement will always be a concern, he doesn't have the nose for a goal and his movement in and around the box is terrible.
Beginning to think Chido Obi should be a bench option. I know the argument is that it might interfere with his development, but Rasmus is offering very little not making the right runs and losing all his duels. We are effectively carrying him for most of the game at the moment, and so having Chido with fresh energy on for 10-15 mins might not be a bad thing. It's how Rashford got his break although he was a year older (bad example!)Always thought there was a player there that could be harnessed, maybe not top class, but that could contribute to a squad.
But he's in terrible form, shocking. It's doing us nor him any good trying to play him back into form as it's not happening. Not sure what the answer is as we only have two forwards so he still needs to be playing some minutes.
Looking like a dud overall but I think there is no point worrying about the striker until we sort out the WBs. If we get him service in the right place he will score goals. We aren't getting anywhere near the opposition goal in the ways he would want at the moment. Look at so many of Gyorkores' goals and they are crosses or cut backs right in front of goal.
Hes got a lot of issues with his game especially when he is playing with his back to goal and receiving the ball near the half way line.
Does ability just disappear though? He showed he had far greater attributes than are on display this season.
You just have to take one look at him to see his confidence is on the floor. That will affect the performance of any player. Then consider the external circumstances, new manager, struggling team. Then the fact that he's only 21.
He is undeniably playing badly, awfully even - but this isn't a case where a player has never shown what he is capable of, or where he is clearly performing to the best of his ability and that clearly isn't good enough. As mostly everyone has said since he was signed he needs to not be our sole focal point and needs to play the 'understudy' role. Unfortunately we're not in a financial position where that's even possible.
I expect we very may well see him leave end of the season, and I do generally agree we should learn from the mistakes of the last decade and move players on quickly if they're not good enough - but the odds have been stacked against him this season.
I do think his lack of shots have a lot to do with how little we create either through our CMs, or through our WBs.
Still Zirkzee is slowing slightly more, and if this continues till the end of the season, I would be inclined to loan him out with intention to sell. Get a proper #9 in, who can hold on to the ball AND finish.
12 shots is one of the worst starts I can ever remember. Any top level striker should be around 12 goals by now, let alone shots, it's crazy.
I think there is a player in him, but the team is awful and his confidence is shot.
For reference Salah has 19 goals already and players like Wissa / Kluivert have 11 each.
Against any half decent team, that’s would extend to a shot. I’d be surprised if he’s ever had a shot against Manchester City or Liverpool, for example. In his whole career here across league and cups.
We need to sell Rasmus for around 45m+ to "break even". Do you see anyone paying that in the current climate? Rashford and Garnacho are academy players which represents pure profit in terms of PSR.Im suprised we havent tried to sell him on in this window while he still has some value, we shouldnt be keeping poir players like Rasmus while trying to sell players like Marcus Rashford and Alejandro Garnacho.
Loved the idea of Ruud at the club to coach him on this. It seems to be a pretty coachable thing, in the same way Amorim is coaching the WBs where to be.Why does he keep trying to post up defenders like he's an NBA centre? You're taking on CBs in the ONE area that they are great at and losing every time. Why not play off the shoulder and use your speed instead? To me this is a coaching deficiency more than anything because a proper striker coach would have forced him to change approach many many games ago. So we have to ask who the striker coach is or if we even have any striker coaches.