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Rashford vs Sancho | Ft. Our strongest line up now
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he prefers it when his friends call him marcusy.
Because we are FICKLE FC.
Yeah, but Rashy couldn't hold on to the ball. He was really shit. I'm super disappointed in Sancho btw. What I just don't understand is why we're all like, sell, sell, sell when a player is shit and then forget about it as soon as the player plays well.
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if anything sancho might do better in the central role if we play a 4-2-3-1. Be a safer player than someone like bruno and could see him possibly linking up better with those around him. Martial top, rashford left, antony right, and sancho in the 10 could possibly work
Having healthy competition between Martial, Rashford, Sancho and Anthony is ideal…Rashford and Martial are better from left if used wide and Anthony and Sancho are better from the right…I would like to see Sancho given a chance in Bruno’s position as..he may not have Bruno’s vision but he links well with Martial and Rashford from what I saw in preseason…just glad they are all fit and offering different options..
It’s not impossible that ETH would perhaps transition him into a central role like he did Berghuis at Ajax, but I don’t know enough about the latter to understand why that was done.
Bruno has looked quite ineffective for a long time so it could be the case of 2 birds with one stone. Bruno however still works quite hard defensively, Sancho would have to improve in that regard to maintain balance.
Bruno has looked quite ineffective for a long time so it could be the case of 2 birds with one stone. Bruno however still works quite hard defensively, Sancho would have to improve in that regard to maintain balance.
It has to be Rashy. Sancho doesn’t offer anything to the team so far.
He'll get pushed off the ball
The guy who feints whenever he gets the ball and passes it back will do really well in a No. 10 position. Ignore his lack of strength, work rate, etc., and he would be gold there.
I mean no different than Bruno. Sancho would be less trying highlight low percentage balls and constant turnovers and perhaps give a more consistent possession attack.
He would probably do the opposite to the extreme which might not benefit us at all. Imagine in the central area near the goal with the ball at his feet with many options/team mates ahead of him, he would feint once then pass it to the defender behind him.
Oh wait.
I remember Rio talking about his 1st day at training, he was playing it safe with square and short easy passes, well Keane fecked him out of it and said your at United pass the ball forward take a risk, I feel sancho could use a bollocking from Keane.
https://punditarena.com/football/robredmond/rio-ferdinand-roy-keane-man-united-first-day/
Ball retention and close control? Nah. Let’s get Fernandes who needs 10 yards of space to lump it forward to nobody at every opportunity he gets. He’s so golden.
The 19/20 attack was excited ones. ETH already has something he can continue to build there. Keep Martial alongside Rashford who have great connection, and play them alongside Antony who understands the manager’s system.
Sancho has 2 unsuccessful touches per game aka bad control per game according to whoscored in PL this season. While Bruno has 0.6 unsuccessful touches. Why are you mentioning ball retention and ball control to defend your suggestion about Sancho should be playing as no 10 ahead of Bruno?
You always need a runner in attack he'll stretch defenses and create space for the opposition.
Rashford Martial Antony looks the best balance.
Antony and Sancho are too similar, Rashford always good attacking space with Martial who drops and drift around creating those spaces.
Rashford Martial Antony looks the best balance.
Antony and Sancho are too similar, Rashford always good attacking space with Martial who drops and drift around creating those spaces.
Just in — a player who plays out wide has trickier touches to make than a no.10. And how about passing accuracy? Long, medium, short? There’s also his complete inability to dribble the ball, where Fernandes is genuinely bottom 10 percentile in Europe in his position. Having the ability to shimmy past a man or just keep it a little under pressure is massive for retaining the ball. If you think Bruno Fernandes is better at ball retention than Jadon Sancho you’re watching the wrong sport.
It's very odd to see people saying Sancho should play centrally now. Why? We already have 2 no.10s who are actually up for the fight. Don't get me wrong if you want to try it in the EL after we're hypothetically through the group then go for it, but it's not exactly high on the list of things to try.
Sancho says he likes playing on the left, he's shit on the left. That's all there is to it in my book. He either has to up his level or wait for another chance on the right and hope he can displace Antony. He's shown little so far in terms of pressing, movement or creativity to suggest we should be trying to crowbar him into an unfamiliar role.
Sancho says he likes playing on the left, he's shit on the left. That's all there is to it in my book. He either has to up his level or wait for another chance on the right and hope he can displace Antony. He's shown little so far in terms of pressing, movement or creativity to suggest we should be trying to crowbar him into an unfamiliar role.
In Jan: Sign Mitrovic to play 9. Martial replaces Bruno. Rash left wing. Antony right.
That group would apply some heat.
That group would apply some heat.
Yeah right tricker touches because the player plays out wide. What strange logic.
If you think Bruno Fernandes is better at ball retention than Jadon Sancho you’re watching the wrong sport.
You would want Sancho over KDB since KDB has low passing accuracy. On contrary, I would want KDB over Sancho because the guy has high progressive passing despite of low passing accuracy. Passing accuracy is irrelevant here. I don’t think no 10 job is to dribble anyway.
Rashford could have a poor game Sunday and Sancho will come on and have a nice cameo and we will all change our tune again.
It’s the entire reason we have a squad in the first place. The problem with us is that the entire team lacks consistency.
It’s the entire reason we have a squad in the first place. The problem with us is that the entire team lacks consistency.
Agree with that front 4 for most games but I'd like us to try Eriksen as the 10 with Fred/ McT and Casemiro behind him for tougher games.
Probably because they all have differing attributes. For a team to be consistent, all the players must have attributes in sync with each other. Sancho is a intelligent playmaker who loves to read spaces and other players movement, Rashford is very direct and Martial's attributes are in between Rashford and Sancho.
Rashford plays very well when he has space to run into since he relies a lot on dribbling with speed, which the Nicosia match illustrated this. Sancho plays better when he has players who can pick up spaces for him to link up with. ETH might possibly try a formation where Sancho is false nine with Martial and Rashford playing off him. That might give more consistency in the attack.
Midfield wise, if Bruno can be more composed in his possession it would be very effective. Otherwise the rest of the players are almost there in terms of their attributes.
There was a reason we were the only ones in for Sancho and we had our pants pulled down with the price even after it was lowered. He never got picked initially after we bought him. His end product since he has been here is poor. I would even bet TH will look to moving him on, as he is slow compared to Rashford and Antony
No one knows, but personally I am pretty convinced Sancho will turn up relatively soon, but it might be after the world cup.
It will help, though, to have Martial back (hopefully on a more consistent basis), since I assume Sancho needs players like that to play off of, rather than having Ronaldo, Rashford and Bruno as his closest players. Of course he still has Antony and Eriksen in the fold, but at Borussia he didn't have to solve as much on his own as he does here, even with Haaland up front he had more creative/interplay-based forces and runs around him. I don't think it has to do with possession based v counter attacking based play, but rather who to play together with – obviously combined with his apparent confidence issues at play right now.
Rashford shows the difference between night and day concerning the latter issue right now. Even when not in peak ball-playing and physical form everything is better when there's a sense of belief in your body. The struggles can still be there, but you're a much better player when you deal with struggles than get beaten by them. Hopefully the past seasons have helped Rashford grow as a person, but even if he gets to an age considered to be experienced in the world of football, (almost) 25 is extremely young as a human being and most people haven't figured themselves out by the age the average professional football player gets into retirement. Especially if it's the alleged mental health issue, which takes a long time to deal with if it's a recurrent type, and that might even be for the lucky ones among us.
Sancho came at a bad time for the club, but was seen as the hero we've needed for about a decade. I can imagine that not fulfilling the prophecy of the RW to save us all can do something to a player's mind. But this lad is even younger than Rashford and I am pretty sure he will turn things around sometime this season. How to unlock that is between himself, ETH and his fellow players, but it certainly is possible. The Bundesliga is not at the same level as the BPL, but he is much better than we've seen (on average) during his games. Hope it works out.
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For now I think it's good that ETH rotates between them. Both to keep them both in shape, but also to keep the pressure off of them a little. They don't have to be our stars right now, the burden can be shared until either or both of them show up on the consistent base necessary to be one of the main carriers of the team.
I wonder if Bruno could be part of the rotation – and of course it would make sense to rest Antony plenty, too – but captains (and let's be honest, Bruno is the real captain right now) usually get played a lot more by managers emphasizing leaders in the team. Simeone would never drop Koke, and ETH is very similar to him in that regard as he never dropped Tadic no matter how many times he lost possession. As a player type I would definitely try Sancho in Bruno's position, but I don't think we'll see this happening anytime soon...
For now Rashford is easily showing more, but in preseason and moments like the Pool-goal we've seen that Sancho could be a great asset or center piece to the machine to build in ETH's mind. But if they rotate their starting positions for the foreseeable future, would be the best, in my opinion.
It will help, though, to have Martial back (hopefully on a more consistent basis), since I assume Sancho needs players like that to play off of, rather than having Ronaldo, Rashford and Bruno as his closest players. Of course he still has Antony and Eriksen in the fold, but at Borussia he didn't have to solve as much on his own as he does here, even with Haaland up front he had more creative/interplay-based forces and runs around him. I don't think it has to do with possession based v counter attacking based play, but rather who to play together with – obviously combined with his apparent confidence issues at play right now.
Rashford shows the difference between night and day concerning the latter issue right now. Even when not in peak ball-playing and physical form everything is better when there's a sense of belief in your body. The struggles can still be there, but you're a much better player when you deal with struggles than get beaten by them. Hopefully the past seasons have helped Rashford grow as a person, but even if he gets to an age considered to be experienced in the world of football, (almost) 25 is extremely young as a human being and most people haven't figured themselves out by the age the average professional football player gets into retirement. Especially if it's the alleged mental health issue, which takes a long time to deal with if it's a recurrent type, and that might even be for the lucky ones among us.
Sancho came at a bad time for the club, but was seen as the hero we've needed for about a decade. I can imagine that not fulfilling the prophecy of the RW to save us all can do something to a player's mind. But this lad is even younger than Rashford and I am pretty sure he will turn things around sometime this season. How to unlock that is between himself, ETH and his fellow players, but it certainly is possible. The Bundesliga is not at the same level as the BPL, but he is much better than we've seen (on average) during his games. Hope it works out.
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For now I think it's good that ETH rotates between them. Both to keep them both in shape, but also to keep the pressure off of them a little. They don't have to be our stars right now, the burden can be shared until either or both of them show up on the consistent base necessary to be one of the main carriers of the team.
I wonder if Bruno could be part of the rotation – and of course it would make sense to rest Antony plenty, too – but captains (and let's be honest, Bruno is the real captain right now) usually get played a lot more by managers emphasizing leaders in the team. Simeone would never drop Koke, and ETH is very similar to him in that regard as he never dropped Tadic no matter how many times he lost possession. As a player type I would definitely try Sancho in Bruno's position, but I don't think we'll see this happening anytime soon...
For now Rashford is easily showing more, but in preseason and moments like the Pool-goal we've seen that Sancho could be a great asset or center piece to the machine to build in ETH's mind. But if they rotate their starting positions for the foreseeable future, would be the best, in my opinion.
I keep seeing this crop up but I just don’t buy it. Sancho’s lack of pace and unwillingness to take players is concerning, but for someone so gifted, his technique is inconsistent. Poor first touches, under hitting simple passes, poor under pressure. If he were to play central in this current form, I think he would look worse. He would have less time on the ball, and would be pressed from both angles. And let’s not forget his lack of an engine.
Although I think Sancho should be playing more centrally from the wing, he has shown nothing about playing in a role like a No. 10 at all at United. Bruno, despite his shortcomings, is 10 times better than him here.
And ball retention is not the most important stats you should try for while playing in no 10. and it is hard to judge Sancho's close control because he keeps passing back as soon as someone gets close to him.