Rashford considering his future...

The thing is I've been very critical of Rashford since the Ole tenure but he can't even sneeze now without people finding a fault in it.

Rashford has been posting summer workout videos since 2016 right before Jose joined. He like many other sportsmen do this during the off season, there's nothing wrong with it. Of course he does have his PR machine behind him and that should be called out when they are trying to control the narrative around him but this is innocent.
It's innocent when a player posts on his own social media pages but when these videos are appearing in the national press every other week then questions rightfully have to be asked.
 
For me there's a big difference between not putting the effort in, not being good enough or playing disjointed football which would effect performances. Players like Bruno, Ronaldo, Fred, McT, Telles, Dalot, Elanga all at least tried. Sancho I'll forgive as it's his first season in the PL but Rashford stood out as a player not in the least interested in trying to work himself into some sort of form. I can't believe supporters have that short of memory that the excuses are starting all over again when it was generally agreed that Rashford basically downed tools and was rightfully dropped for his performamces all through the season when he came back from injury just a few short weeks ago.

I don't think you will find many United fans that were not annoyed by Rashford's demeanour during last season. He deserved to be dropped, and he was dropped. Not even close to the England squad either and will struggle to make the World Cup. It's not as though this has all gone by without any punishment or consequence for him.

It's time to give him a chance to find his way back now though.
 
For me there's a big difference between not putting the effort in, not being good enough or playing disjointed football which would effect performances. Players like Bruno, Ronaldo, Fred, McT, Telles, Dalot, Elanga all at least tried. Sancho I'll forgive as it's his first season in the PL but Rashford stood out as a player not in the least interested in trying to work himself into some sort of form. I can't believe supporters have that short of memory that the excuses are starting all over again when it was generally agreed that Rashford basically downed tools and was rightfully dropped for his performamces all through the season when he came back from injury just a few short weeks ago.
Yeah. I’d be surprised if the players that improve under ETH aren’t among the ones you’ve listed.
 
Someone who is a trainer will hopefully correct me, but kinda funny to see him doing shoulder raises. I've always been told those are a bit backwards and risky, and that shoulders develop best through less direct exercises. But anywho, good to see him bulking up...wait...
That one armed row isn't great for the back either, or at least rest on right knee for right row and vice versa... People should be telling these guys about that stuff. Anyway good to see him back hope he turns up and turns out this season... feck the haters :p
 
It doesn’t matter what video he posts, he was beyond bad last season. The lack of effort was obvious and particularly frustrating. There were a number of players in the squad that kept on running and trying to make things happen. He was the very worst in terms of posture/example on the pitch.

No matter what people argue about “instructions” he wasn’t reacting to anything, wasn’t chasing after loose balls and turned his back a few times on chances because he just assumed they were gone and couldn’t be bothered. It really was unforgivable.

He has a LOT to do this season and a video like this doesn’t give him any positive points back. In fact, until his attitude changes, fans will react negatively to smoke screens such as this one.

ETH needs to bring the standards back. Not just anyone can play for Manchester United. Rashford needs to hit the ground running or he needs to leave. He is in the last chance saloon no matter what he posts in social media.

I hope we are about to see his best ever season in a United shirt.
 

While I think it is actually good that he works out he needs to cut down social media. Who is he? Sylvester Stallone in Rocky? This is just awkward.

No need to show that you work. You should normaly do it so what is point posting it. It is your job to work. Start showing it also on the pitch.
 
While I think it is actually good that he works out he needs to cut down social media. Who is he? Sylvester Stallone in Rocky? This is just awkward.

No need to show that you work. You should normaly do it so what is point posting it. It is your job to work. Start showing it also on the pitch.

Aren't the players supposedly on holidays now? This would be to show that instead of resting on his laurels/being lazy he recognizes that last season was not good enough so he's putting in the work to ensure he hits the ground running (:wenger:)
 
Rashford doesn't has good football intelligent. Hopefully under ETH who coached every details on the tactics e.g. where/when to position, attack, pass, run or press he will improve. ETH also want his players to work hard and have high discipline on and off the field.

Rashford can perform well in a very defined system. This will also helps his confidence.
 
That one armed row isn't great for the back either, or at least rest on right knee for right row and vice versa... People should be telling these guys about that stuff. Anyway good to see him back hope he turns up and turns out this season... feck the haters :p
Thought it was fine. Controlled motion, medium weight and adherence to form. It's only bad when you go superheavyweight and swing the weight wildly. That being said dumbell shoulder press, chest press and dumbbell rows aren't exactly what I'd imagine will enhance an athletes functional performance. Heavy hypertrophy focused benefits. Going out on a limb and guessing this is more for the summer beach bod.
 
While I think it is actually good that he works out he needs to cut down social media. Who is he? Sylvester Stallone in Rocky? This is just awkward.

No need to show that you work. You should normaly do it so what is point posting it. It is your job to work. Start showing it also on the pitch.

It's a generational thing. These guys under 30 grew up in the social media age where even taking a poo merits a photo or video with a generic quote as the headline. No need to yell at the clouds IMO they mostly all do it.
 
For me there's a big difference between not putting the effort in, not being good enough or playing disjointed football which would effect performances. Players like Bruno, Ronaldo, Fred, McT, Telles, Dalot, Elanga all at least tried. Sancho I'll forgive as it's his first season in the PL but Rashford stood out as a player not in the least interested in trying to work himself into some sort of form. I can't believe supporters have that short of memory that the excuses are starting all over again when it was generally agreed that Rashford basically downed tools and was rightfully dropped for his performamces all through the season when he came back from injury just a few short weeks ago.

I don't disagree with much of anything here besides the Rashford business. I think Rashford stands out more because there is a stronger focus on him from the media, similar to Pogba, Lingard and Maguire, for example, because they spent too much time on social media doing pointless PF nonsense, which only serves to open them up to more criticism from the fans. I feel if they'd just shut up and concentrate on improving their overall game, rather than merely tweet about it, they'd go under the radar more and be less open to scrutiny.

You barely heard a word from Sancho last season, so his underperforming went relatively unnoticed. We were too busy watching another Pogba or Rashford training montage, or Lingard wearing his favourite West Ham shirt, or Maguire headbutting 12 Greek police officers to care what Sancho was doing.

Social media is a curse on these players more than it is a blessing.
 
Aren't the players supposedly on holidays now? This would be to show that instead of resting on his laurels/being lazy he recognizes that last season was not good enough so he's putting in the work to ensure he hits the ground running (:wenger:)
He don't need to show anything on social media. If he is working, what he should be doing, he need to do it quietly.

It's a generational thing. These guys under 30 grew up in the social media age where even taking a poo merits a photo or video with a generic quote as the headline. No need to yell at the clouds IMO they mostly all do it.
I still don't get it. But afterall I'm not kid anymore. For me, it is just awkward hunting for likes and comments.
 
You can do all the exercises you want, build whatever muscles you want. Ultimately, it boils down to what you do on the pitch. Being awesome in training doesn't mean much, if it doesn't transform to things happening on the pitch
Everyone's performance is based on confidence in you and your ability / form etc. I think he might be needing that more than others and perhaps wasn't getting it from the previous manager. He definitely didn't help himself with us by delaying the shoulder op etc though.

I'm personally looking forward to how ETH will manage him as Rashford seems to be looking forward to working with him so who knows, I have often felt he's played out of position to suit Ronaldo, Cavani etc and maybe won't be next year

But definitely last chance saloon from a United perspective if he can't do it under him
 
Don't forget cardio Rashy. Can't be walking around the pitch.

This has been his problem, to much weights - bad back / injured shoulder and not enough cardio & fitness work - His perfromances have declined alongside the time he spent bulking up
 
This has been his problem, to much weights - bad back / injured shoulder and not enough cardio & fitness work - His perfromances have declined alongside the time he spent bulking up
Same type of training ruined Tiger’s body.
 
He don't need to show anything on social media. If he is working, what he should be doing, he need to do it quietly.
That is against the rules of social media engagement. You appoint a PR firm. Then if you don't take their inputs, then it beats the purpose.

You can't just vanish from social media over the break.
 
Athlete does excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, sell him"
"It's all PR, who does he think he is?"

Athlete doesn't do excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, and too weak, sell him"
"He's too busy doing PR to strengthen, sell him"
 
Athlete does excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, sell him"
"It's all PR, who does he think he is?"

Athlete doesn't do excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, and too weak, sell him"
"He's too busy doing PR to strengthen, sell him"
Well, to be fair he's getting criticism because he's absoluely asked for it. He was abysmal this past season, his attitude was worse than useless. And I say this as someone who used to like and respect the guy. I've lost patience now, though. It's entirely right what was posted above: getting and staying fit is simply part of his job, and shouldn't need social media display or endless congratulations. Either he does his talking on the pitch of fecks right off.
 
Athlete does excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, sell him"
"It's all PR, who does he think he is?"

Athlete doesn't do excercises,
Redcafe loses its shit.

"He's shit, and too weak, sell him"
"He's too busy doing PR to strengthen, sell him"

The Caf loses their collective shit over anything these days. It's clear that Rashford has struggled with injuries, fatigue and confidence.

Personally, I feel he still has the tools in his game to turn it around though, he's not garbage. But he does need coaching and does need to get over his clear injury and confidence issues. I love the guy so really do hope he can turn it around this season. Good to see he's being proactive during the off season and not just running off and chilling on a beach for a few weeks.
 
The Caf loses their collective shit over anything these days. It's clear that Rashford has struggled with injuries, fatigue and confidence.

Personally, I feel he still has the tools in his game to turn it around though, he's not garbage. But he does need coaching and does need to get over his clear injury and confidence issues. I love the guy so really do hope he can turn it around this season. Good to see he's being proactive during the off season and not just running off and chilling on a beach for a few weeks.
Exactly.
 
He’s fallen so much I don’t even factor him into the equation when thinking about our available options next season.
 
2-3 posts asking why Rashford is posting all this and 20 posts saying caf is losing the collective shit about this.

Hilarious!!!
 
The Caf loses their collective shit over anything these days. It's clear that Rashford has struggled with injuries, fatigue and confidence.

Personally, I feel he still has the tools in his game to turn it around though, he's not garbage. But he does need coaching and does need to get over his clear injury and confidence issues. I love the guy so really do hope he can turn it around this season. Good to see he's being proactive during the off season and not just running off and chilling on a beach for a few weeks.
I think the amount of time he spent on the bench makes the fatigue point redundant. It’s largely acknowledged that he got his injury issues sorted and that it’s no longer an issue. A lack of confidence is something that can also be interpreted as a weak mentality. As soon as people were not fawning over him...he cracked...he is a top footballer but it takes more to be in the spotlight. He should simply stay out of sight and out of mind (Off social media) till he either moves on or finds form. Any other activity draws attention to himself which - unless it’s good attention - he doesn’t seem to be able to handle.
 
Why the feck do all these players have to post everything on social media. Is it so hard to do the talking on the pitch? Probably is if you're shit
 
I think the amount of time he spent on the bench makes the fatigue point redundant. It’s largely acknowledged that he got his injury issues sorted and that it’s no longer an issue. A lack of confidence is something that can also be interpreted as a weak mentality. As soon as people were not fawning over him...he cracked...he is a top footballer but it takes more to be in the spotlight. He should simply stay out of sight and out of mind (Off social media) till he either moves on or finds form. Any other activity draws attention to himself which - unless it’s good attention - he doesn’t seem to be able to handle.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but he played for Ole during the crazy covid sequence of games while struggling with an injury. That will have a toll on a player and will have both short term and long term effects for Rashford. I'm not surprised he struggled this season, i'm actually shocked not more players in the PL struggled with injuries and form post insane covid.
 
While I think it is actually good that he works out he needs to cut down social media. Who is he? Sylvester Stallone in Rocky? This is just awkward.

No need to show that you work. You should normaly do it so what is point posting it. It is your job to work. Start showing it also on the pitch.

In just under 2 months he’s only posted twice on Instagram :lol:

Such an odd thing to get wound up about.
 
I don't disagree with much of anything here besides the Rashford business. I think Rashford stands out more because there is a stronger focus on him from the media, similar to Pogba, Lingard and Maguire, for example, because they spent too much time on social media doing pointless PF nonsense, which only serves to open them up to more criticism from the fans. I feel if they'd just shut up and concentrate on improving their overall game, rather than merely tweet about it, they'd go under the radar more and be less open to scrutiny.

You barely heard a word from Sancho last season, so his underperforming went relatively unnoticed. We were too busy watching another Pogba or Rashford training montage, or Lingard wearing his favourite West Ham shirt, or Maguire headbutting 12 Greek police officers to care what Sancho was doing.

Social media is a curse on these players more than it is a blessing.

Rashford stood out because he was the most disinterested player by a distance anytime he played - period. I can accept a player struggling for form, forcing things, being confused, and just not being good enough. That's not Rashford, he would come on the pitch and stroll around sulking in season defining games - that's unforgivable.

Obviously the extracurricular stuff brings added attention, but I don't care about all that anyway. I care about what's happening on the pitch and Rashford's behaviour (I intentionally avoided performances) was extremely despicable.

P.s. I agree with the general sentiment that they should just shut up and concentrate on their games. If they were doing well however, no one would mind these extras
 
Why the feck do all these players have to post everything on social media. Is it so hard to do the talking on the pitch? Probably is if you're shit
I 100% agree.

If he had anything about him he would have shown it in effort on the pitch.

He didn’t.

He is not a Manchester United player in that aspect alone (see SAFs criteria for recruitment). He literally has no excuse.

It is inexcusable that he resorts to social media when he should actually be trying to help the team, Manchester United FFS. How lucky is he even to be on the payroll of an institution of this magnitude? It beggars belief.

If we can move him on it will send a strong message to the other present and prospective players.
 
That doesn't mean it's PR. I mean that exactly is PR in posting fitness video?

If James Ducker is writing articles on how Rashford is working 10 hours a day to improve his fitness, yes, that's a PR piece.
Respectfully I disagree, it's only about PR and nothing else with posts like these.
The club has been a bit of a sh*tshow for some time now. Why can we all easily accept that but then not be able to accept that the same situation might have affected players form?

We are all too quick to attack everything nowadays. It's a new beginning for the club with lots to be excited about. IMO everyone should reset, park the moaning for a while and try to be positive, at least until we have new reasons not to be.
Saying what Rashford posted does nothing to me isn't attacking him though. I'm just sharing that I need and hope to see much more from him on the pitch before turning my opinion on him. If you consider that as attacking and moaning then you're very very wrong
 
I take the video as a good sign. He looks in very good shape tbf. Definitely not a case of only lifting a few dumbbells for the camera.

At the moment he could do what he wants, people in here will criticize him for everything.

I really hope he puts in real, honest work during the summer and starts the season in peak condition. Raring to go and to prove people wrong.
 
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