Randal Kolo Muani

Atleast he’s explosive. We could do with a few more of these players. The Premier League might suit him well.
 
We need 3 Strikers. If this guy is Rashford's eventual replacement then it makes sense. Then we will hopefully look to get another in the summer if Zirkzee leaves. That's the only way this makes sense to me.
 
romufc said:
There is literally no proof to back this argumenrt.
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Kolo Muani had 14 assists in a single Bundesliga season, Hojlund has 15 in his whole career...besides that, just watching lots of games of the two players Kolo Muani is superior in basically everything. Which isn't difficult as Hojlund has no outstanding qualities.
 
I think he suits the 343 system very well as the mobile forward who can drift around and run in behind defenses with Bruno or Amad playing the more creative inside forward or 10 role.

If we can do a loan with an option to buy in the summer it could be a shrewd signing imo.
 
His goal stats since leaving Frankfurt don’t look great but he looked good in the limited times I’ve seen him play for France.
 
kolli said:
Kolo Muani had 14 assists in a single Bundesliga season, Hojlund has 15 in his whole career...besides that, just watching lots of games of the two players Kolo Muani is superior in basically everything. Which isn't difficult as Hojlund has no outstanding qualities.
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A million times better? yet I am being told about 14 assists as a highlight of a ST's career, in a league where Werner scores loads of goals.

Also, just to advise Kolo Muani is 5 years older than Hojlund, yet cannot get into a PSG team that barely has any strikers playing well. Clearly he has no outstanding qualities.
 
I find similarities with Hugo Ekitike . Bought for a lot of money by Paris and in the end failed to flourish in the club. Hugo changes clubs acquires confidence and begin to score goals, but will Randal have the same confidence in United that he does not have in Paris?
There is a big difference between the English and French and German championships, the adaptation time will be long I think. If it's only a loan until the end of the season why not.
 
kolli said:
Kolo Muani had 14 assists in a single Bundesliga season, Hojlund has 15 in his whole career...besides that, just watching lots of games of the two players Kolo Muani is superior in basically everything. Which isn't difficult as Hojlund has no outstanding qualities.
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Mr Campos, we appreciate the proposal but we do not want your player.
 
I assume that either us or Spurs or someone else will take him on loan rather than a sale in Jan. I wonder then how much would a permanent sale cost. PSG bought him for 95m so he would have a very high carrying value even after 1 year of amortization. I don’t think anyone would pay more than 40m for him so PSG would have to bite the bullet and take a big loss.
 
AlexUTD said:
Going for this guy and helping P$G get better players and block us from going Gyøkeres would be peak Man Utd.
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I see him as a replacement for Rashfrod and Gyokeres as a replacement for Zirkzee (although he would start over Hojlund).
 
It doesn’t fill me with a lot of positivity. But a loan deal might be worthwhile. Hopefully one day we can sign a bonafide goal scorer.
 
Been listening to the transfer flow podcast and if I can paraphrase their take on a full transfer:

He's 26 now and what you're signing him for is to come in deliver right away. If we sign this guy on a 3+1 or 4+1 type deal, he's not going to have much resale value at the end of contract and effectively you're going to be looking for his replacement at the end of it. You also have to expect that you're getting the finished article and not someone who is going to drastically improve at 26/27.

One other objection raised was that PSG signed him off of one good season and overpaid significantly. Yes, he did look good for France at the WC but they question how much of that was because the defenders were double / triple teaming guys like Mbappe, Griezmann, Dembele etc. leading to him having more space. It's similar to Pedro during the Barca days when the defensive / tactical attention was mostly occupied by Messi / Suarez / Neymar so they just chose to leave Pedro 1v1 and took their chances with him.

If we can loan him while shipping Rashford out, it's definitely worthwhile.
 
Loan, I have zero issue with.

If we're looking to buy (and especially if any conditions around that are attached to the loan deal) then that's a very different story. Because his output shows absolutely no sign of being good enough for us.

Non-penalty goals per 90 over recent seasons across all competitions:

Muani: 0.19, 0.43, 0.50, 0.34
Hojlund: 0.46, 0.47, 0.47, 0.39

It's not much (if any) upgrade in terms of actual goals. The difference being that where Hojlund is a 21 year old with scope to improve, Muani is a 26 year old supposedly in his peak years.

Muani assists more, sure, but not so much that it justifies permanently adding another player with extremely ordinary output to an extremely ordinary attack.
 
Got it, in that case let‘s continue playing the donkey that falls over 10 times everytime he’s in the box and wrestles with defnder instead of holding the up and hope that the next Harry Kane or Lewandowski magically decides to sign for United.
 
kolli said:
Got it, in that case let‘s continue playing the donkey that falls over 10 times everytime he’s in the box and wrestles with defnder instead of holding the up and hope that the next Harry Kane or Lewandowski magically decides to sign for United.
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Given that’s the only alternative, and because that statement isn’t hyperbolic whatsoever, I guess we will have to do that, yes!
 
sullydnl said:
Muani assists more, sure, but not so much that it justifies permanently adding another player with extremely ordinary output to an extremely ordinary attack.
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If he performs as he did in Frankfurt he could easily lift the goal scoring of all attackers on the field. No other current United attacker has the mobility and movement (and willingness to do the runs) as Kolo Muani showed there.

There is no guarantee but reasonable hope that he can get the whole front three to score better if he becomes part of that. Especially as that also was in a 343 system like Amorim uses.
 
Teja said:
Been listening to the transfer flow podcast and if I can paraphrase their take on a full transfer:

He's 26 now and what you're signing him for is to come in deliver right away. If we sign this guy on a 3+1 or 4+1 type deal, he's not going to have much resale value at the end of contract and effectively you're going to be looking for his replacement at the end of it. You also have to expect that you're getting the finished article and not someone who is going to drastically improve at 26/27.

One other objection raised was that PSG signed him off of one good season and overpaid significantly. Yes, he did look good for France at the WC but they question how much of that was because the defenders were double / triple teaming guys like Mbappe, Griezmann, Dembele etc. leading to him having more space. It's similar to Pedro during the Barca days when the defensive / tactical attention was mostly occupied by Messi / Suarez / Neymar so they just chose to leave Pedro 1v1 and took their chances with him.

If we can loan him while shipping Rashford out, it's definitely worthwhile.
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Griezmann was playing as a CM, he wasn't marked by defenders. Kolo Muani didn't really play with Dembélé, the games where he played and did well he replaced an underperforming Dembélé. It wasn't a case of other players being doubled because the starters, Giroud and Dembélé, were largely subpar while Thuram, Coman and Kolo Muani almost invariably transformed the attack. Now both Kolo Muani and Thuram aren't very skilled, their contributions rely on hard work and smart runs. United need skills and adding that type of player elevates our floor but it doesn't elevate our ceiling.
 
meh

but with our track record of signings, wouldn't surprise me we purchase him and he is rubbish. (which already he isn't a top striker). Other pl teams not all rushing for his signature tells you everything.
 
Fooza said:
meh

but with our track record of signings, wouldn't surprise me we purchase him and he is rubbish. (which already he isn't a top striker). Other pl teams not all rushing for his signature tells you everything.
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Interesting that you classify a player good or bad on the basis of what other PL clubs are doing.

No other PL club was rushing to sign Salah..
Same with KDB
Same with Diaz
Same with Saliba,

In fact Spurs are in for him too, does that mean he is amazing?
 
I don't want us to sign him permanently or on loan. I doubt we'd decide to take up any sort of an option, so a loan is just throwing money away for the sake of it.
 
romufc said:
Interesting that you classify a player good or bad on the basis of what other PL clubs are doing.

No other PL club was rushing to sign Salah..
Same with KDB
Same with Diaz
Same with Saliba,

In fact Spurs are in for him too, does that mean he is amazing?
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Okay how do I put this for you, he isn't a clinical striker. He's far from any of the top strikers out there. Now, when when I said about the other pl teams rushing to sign them, If City, Liverpool, Arsenal had bought him I wouldn't worry because IN MY OPINION he's an under whelming striker that isn't going to bag a lot of goals. In fact he's just as much of a winger than striker to me.

Spurs? Yes he's their level mate so thanks for proving my point there.
 
UnitedSofa said:
How on earth will he block Gyokeres?
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If we got him we would have 2 strikers.
JJ12 said:
Loaning him for 6 months does none of that
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Is it only 6 months? I thought it would have to be with a option to buy.
Raoul said:
I see him as a replacement for Rashfrod and Gyokeres as a replacement for Zirkzee (although he would start over Hojlund).
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But that would make it 3 strikers no? We only need 2 in my opinion since we only use 1 striker and need more number 10s?
 
AlexUTD said:
If we got him we would have 2 strikers.

Is it only 6 months? I thought it would have to be with a option to buy.

But that would make it 3 strikers no? We only need 2 in my opinion since we only use 1 striker and need more number 10s?
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RKM would be temporarily replacing Rashford, which would be a loan. Gyokeres would be coming on a permanent transfer and would replace Zirkzee, who despite claiming he wants to stay, is almost certainly not an Amorim type player.
 
Raoul said:
RKM would be temporarily replacing Rashford, which would be a loan. Gyokeres would be coming in a permanent transfer and would replace Zirkzee, who despite claiming he wants to stay, is almost certainly not an Amorim type player.
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Temporary is different i guess.

Would not see the need to have Højlund, Gyøkeres and Muani next season.
 
I haven’t watched this guy much since he moved to PSG but I remember previously thinking that he was a bit rubbish and we should go nowhere near him. Has he massively improved and is tearing it up in the French league?
 
Jonathan David has six months left on his contract and he virtually guarantees goals in the French league so why aren't we looking at him?
 
Doracle said:
I haven’t watched this guy much since he moved to PSG but I remember previously thinking that he was a bit rubbish and we should go nowhere near him. Has he massively improved and is tearing it up in the French league?
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Quite the opposite but PSG system perhaps doesn't play to his strengths as much as ours could in theory
 
Doracle said:
Hmm, ok doesn’t sound promising. Hopefully a loan with option at most then.
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To be fair Ugarte wasn’t pulling up trees at PSG yet looks like bring our best signing for years! Muani is extremely talented and under the right tutelage could be very successful
 
Rasmus_9 said:
To be fair Ugarte wasn’t pulling up trees at PSG yet looks like bring our best signing for years! Muani is extremely talented and under the right tutelage could be very successful
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Enrique is rated as a top manager and many wanted him here so why would he not be a good coach for an extremely talented footballer as you say?
 
Bondi77 said:
Enrique is rated as a top manager and many wanted him here so why would he not be a good coach for an extremely talented footballer as you say?
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RKM had his best ever season playing in a 343 system (in Frankfurt under Glasner). Enrique uses a 433. It might just be that the system Amorim uses fits RKM better as it's more similar to Frankfurt's system then.
 
Kaizane said:
Why would the club loan Hojlund to Fenerbache?

And for those moaning that Muani isn't good enough, Weghorst and Ighalo say hello.
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The fact that we’ve had such poor players in the past does not justify us buying slightly better but still not great players now.

Surely we should be aiming a bit higher than “better than Weghorst and Ighalo”!?
 
Zumbi said:
The fact that we’ve had such poor players in the past does not justify us buying slightly better but still not great players now.

Surely we should be aiming a bit higher than “better than Weghorst and Ighalo”!?
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You’ve just taken what they’ve said and made it into something completely different
 
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