Randal Kolo Muani | on loan to Juventus

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JE-365 said:
https://totalfootballanalysis.com/p...202223-scout-report-tactical-analysis-tactics

Based on the link above, the followings are Muani’s significant qualities he had at Frankfurt:
- His ability to take on players.
- Effective in the progression into dangerous areas
- Not a selfish player and has ability to create
- mobile striker who involves everywhere on the pitch.
- high defensive ability.

Based on his current fbref, nothing has changed at PSG about his significant qualities that he had at Frankfurt:
- His ability to take on players. (2.17 takes-on per 90 mins at PSG 97 percentiles).
- Effective in the progression into dangerous areas (1.75 progressive carrier ‘’74 percentiles’’ & 8.62 progressive passes received at PSG ‘’93 percentiles’’).
- Not a selfish player and has ability to create (3.01 shot-creating actions per 90 min at PSG ‘’77 percentiles’’).
- mobile striker who involves everywhere on the pitch.(76 percentile touches, 90 percentile touches in final third, 86 percentile touches in penalty box, & 8.62 progressive passes received at PSG ‘’93 percentiles’’).
- Aggressive and high defensive contribution (86 percentile tackles, 56 percentile interceptions, and 79 percentile defensive actions that lead to shot attempt)

Are these strength not clear enough? I’m not trying to make Muani looks good, but I thought what Muani offers in his strength is pretty clear to me.

IMO your post is still lacking of information or still being unclear. You didn’t explain why Ugarte doesn’t fit Enrique style despite of having high amount of tackles, interceptions, high retaining ball with high passing percentages because based on Ugarte’s significant qualities you mentioned, he should fit to any system that play possession based system like Enrique.

Well, let me express what I think about why Ugarte doesn’t fit.
IMO, the reason is because Ugarte is more a double pivot midfielder, he’s not holding midfielder. Enrique plays 433 so Ugarte doesn’t fit to his holding midfielder criteria in 433. So if we just talking about Ugarte significant qualities/strengths, no one would know why he doesn’t fit to Enrique system.

The same logic applies on Muani. If we’re just talking about his strength that I mentioned about Muani, no one would know why he doesn’t fit to Enrique system.

Both have one thing in common that before they joined PSG, their best season comes from playing in 3421 system, and they don’t fit playing in Enrique system. Therefore, there is a comparison.
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Good post, makes sense. Definitely agree about Ugarte. He's more of a Kante than a Makelele.
 
I'd be all for this on a loan with an option to buy. He was never worth the crazy fees touted, but from what I've seen he looks a useful player to have in the squad and well suited to Amorims system.
 
OleGunnar20 said:
I'd be all for this on a loan with an option to buy. He was never worth the crazy fees touted, but from what I've seen he looks a useful player to have in the squad and well suited to Amorims system.
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Where would he play? Ahead of Hojlund or rotating Amad?
 
cpresc said:
Where would he play? Ahead of Hojlund or rotating Amad?
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I think he's been more effective historically up top, though he's a pretty unselfish striker so you'd need to account for that with how the rest of the team capitalises on that. He'd also be well suited as that right sided #10 mind you, and I don't know well enough to say which would work better for Amorim.

I was initially sceptical but looking at the options out there and the fact this looks likely to be a transfer which wouldn't have to cost the earth - I'm really warming up to the idea. I'd expect him to take the pressure off Hojlund and have a much more consistent impact, which would be good for both Rasmus and us as a team.
 
Among the pundits, there seems to be a lot of doubt about Muani. I haven't watched him play more than a couple of times but I did note that he has been at 3 clubs and at each, he averages at least 1 G + A every 2 games.

I wonder if its because there is now a general disdain for forwards signed out of frankfurt (+ Werner and Havertz).
 
Tallis said:
Among the pundits, there seems to be a lot of doubt about Muani. I haven't watched him play more than a couple of times but I did note that he has been at 3 clubs and at each, he averages at least 1 G + A every 2 games.

I wonder if its because there is now a general disdain for forwards signed out of frankfurt (+ Werner and Havertz).
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Probably more linked to how God awful he has been at two tournaments for France.
 
croadyman said:
So what would you do when Rashford goes on loan then just out of interest?
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Rashford doesn't need replacement because he contributes nothing.

rainey said:
I'm curious; how would you explain that Ugarte, who looked pretty poor (except in those first few months) in a "significantly weaker" Ligue 1, performs like he's world class now in the Premiership? Or do you think it's perhaps more about systems and coaches and adaptibility? Take Wijnaldum for example, who took the opposite route a few seasons ago. Man was supposedly a press resistant glue guy and yet the minute he stepped onto the L1 pitch he was bullied around like a schoolboy and was arguably the worst man on the pitch in a good portion of his PSG appearances.
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Ugarte was the transfer I was most excited about in the summer because he was exactly what United needed for many years. The issue with him was that he was a horrible fit for Enrique's system. But now he is playing under the coach that made him, so to speak, so it's made things even better for him. Where would Muani play in Amorim's team? He isn't a good enough target man up top. And if he is going to play as a 10, he will have to displace Fernandes, Diallo, or Garnacho. Again, I don't think he is good enough to do that. I mean, sure, if the idea is to have him as a squad player for the 10 position for the rest of the season, fine, I guess, assuming the financial package is reasonable. But I'm skeptical.

Wasn't Wijnaldum like 30 when he went to France and already not looking too hot for Liverpool that season?
 
I think Muani could be a great buy (loan+) in a working team/system issue is right now we have a lot of forwards that fit that bill, I do not see a struggling player coming into a struggling team being a good fit.

We need that Cavani type loan again, a player who brings experience to that forward line, just not sure that player exists or is possibly available at this time.
 
Tallis said:
Among the pundits, there seems to be a lot of doubt about Muani. I haven't watched him play more than a couple of times but I did note that he has been at 3 clubs and at each, he averages at least 1 G + A every 2 games.

I wonder if its because there is now a general disdain for forwards signed out of frankfurt (+ Werner and Havertz).
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Havertz was Leverkusen.
 
hellhunter said:
And Werner wasn't Frankfurt either. I think it's those two in addition to Frankfurt strikers, but I struggle to name any big strikers from Frankfurt besides Jovic
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I think he just meant Bundesliga forwards. But for some reason said Frankfurt.
 
hellhunter said:
And Werner wasn't Frankfurt either. I think it's those two in addition to Frankfurt strikers, but I struggle to name any big strikers from Frankfurt besides Jovic
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Correct. The recent Frankfurt forwards are RKM (95m), Jovic (63m), Haller (50m). And Maybe Silva to a lesser extent.
 
acnumber9 said:
Probably more linked to how God awful he has been at two tournaments for France.
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No idea what you are talking about - he barely played in the WC22 and the Euros 24 and was still involved in multiple critical goals. People remember him not scoring at the very end of the WC final but when he comes in, they're 2-0 down and he wins the first penalty. He scored in the WC semis, Euros RO16 and Euros semis.
 
antk said:
No idea what you are talking about - he barely played in the WC22 and the Euros 24 and was still involved in multiple critical goals. People remember him not scoring at the very end of the WC final but when he comes in, they're 2-0 down and he wins the first penalty. He scored in the WC semis, Euros RO16 and Euros semis.
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Yeah I remember thinking he was good in the final. Real shame about the miss
 
antk said:
No idea what you are talking about - he barely played in the WC22 and the Euros 24 and was still involved in multiple critical goals. People remember him not scoring at the very end of the WC final but when he comes in, they're 2-0 down and he wins the first penalty. He scored in the WC semis, Euros RO16 and Euros semis.
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Well, you’re welcome to your opinion but I watched every game they played and thought he was dreadful every time.
 
Tallis said:
Correct. The recent Frankfurt forwards are RKM (95m), Jovic (63m), Haller (50m). And Maybe Silva to a lesser extent.
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Andre Silva outscored Haaland, he definitely deserves to be mentioned.
 
BenitoSTARR said:
I think he just meant Bundesliga forwards. But for some reason said Frankfurt.
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Frankfurt just has quite a list of impressive strikers in recent years. No other club had so many in succession and sold so many for big money who then failed elsewhere. It's reasonable to si gle this one club out.

Havertz and Werner are the only other failed big striker tranfers out of the BL recently which is why they where mentioned. Others like Lewandowski or Haaland have been successful.
 
stefan92 said:
Frankfurt just has quite a list of impressive strikers in recent years. No other club had so many in succession and sold so many for big money who then failed elsewhere. It's reasonable to si gle this one club out.

Havertz and Werner are the only other failed big striker tranfers out of the BL recently which is why they where mentioned. Others like Lewandowski or Haaland have been successful.
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I’m not sure it is fair. Who came from Frankfurt that failed in the last 5 years vs any other club in Europe?
 
BenitoSTARR said:
I’m not sure it is fair. Who came from Frankfurt that failed in the last 5 years vs any other club in Europe?
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It is fair. Looking at the strikers Frankfurt sold there isn't a single one who was successful at his next club. The list has been mentioned, RKM, Silva, Jovic, Haller were all sold for big money and were amonst the best strikers in the Bundesliga while playing for Frankfurt.
 
stefan92 said:
It is fair. Looking at the strikers Frankfurt sold there isn't a single one who was successful at his next club. The list has been mentioned, RKM, Silva, Jovic, Haller were all sold for big money and were amonst the best strikers in the Bundesliga while playing for Frankfurt.
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Ah in that case I agree fair enough.
 
hellhunter said:
Would be infuriating to bankroll Kvaradona's transfer to PSG by taking this dud
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Yea not exactly on board with signing another forward who doesn't score goals :lol:

Hope the Italian clubs or someone else can beat us out
 
Guys we're shopping in a different transfer window to PSG. By the looks of things we don't have two pennies to rub together and some of you are mad that we're funding PSG for Kvicha. We're probably struggling to get him on loan for flip sake. Where we getting 80 million for Kvicha?
 
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hellhunter said:
So let's not waste any of it on Kolo Muani would be my suggestion
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We're going to loan him if anything and he's probably the best available for what we can do this window. We need a Striker as a priority and we need bodies in that 9 role as should anything happen to Rasmus, Zirkzee would be a terrible replacement for a prolonged period at number 9 - so desperate times and all that.
 
Is the club buying forwards that can't score hoping they might start scoring? We need a proven scorer, not another failed project.
 
Only thing I remember this guy for is missing that last minute sitter in the world cup final.
 
REDARMY45 said:
Guys we're shopping in a different transfer window to PSG. By the looks of things we don't have two pennies to rub together and some of you are mad that we're funding PSG for Kvicha. We're probably struggling to get him on loan for flip sake. We're we getting 80 million for Kvicha?
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Yeah, the Muani deal sounds like a loan with an option at best. Even if it’s not us, it sounds like Muani is very likely to go somewhere on loan — be it us, Spurs, or Juve. We’d be hardly funding the transfer.

We might have a chance if Kvara waits until the summer, but by that point the pool of teams interested increases.
 
REDARMY45 said:
Guys we're shopping in a different transfer window to PSG. By the looks of things we don't have two pennies to rub together and some of you are mad that we're funding PSG for Kvicha. We're probably struggling to get him on loan for flip sake. We're we getting 80 million for Kvicha?
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Depends on the outgoings.
 
I wonder what any of our technical or scouts see in him. Firstly, is he a striker? seems more of a winger to me. Not seen how good he is in the elements our forwards lack, holding up the ball, link up play. From what I have seen (very little) he is a very basic player with no outstanding skills.
 
Kolo Muani is a fantastic player. He 100% is a striker, that similar to a Martial or Henry can move to the wing during the game to receive the ball and he is more than capable to dribble his situation back into more dangerous areas.
Sometimes his dribbling looks weird in a sense that often times you will feel like he should have already lost the ball multiple times, but somehow it's still on his foot. (similar to a Musiala, although obviously not on that level).
At Frankfurt he was brilliant and was my first choice for United to sign. I don't believe that a few bad months in Paris completely took his talents away. He is a million times better than Höjlund and looking at the lack of options out there I would love for us to sign him
 
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