Of course not but he has actually played the game
Ralf Rangnick's consultancy role has been scrapped
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There's problems with this as well. The Rangnick story about his consultancy only amounting to a few days a month broke in early April.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.c.../manchester-united-ralf-rangnick-job-23608015
The other problem is again, the current DOF hired him.
I know but at least he went with that option. Would have been easier for him to say Poch, all of this "PL experience" BS but he clearly let them know Ten Hag was the best option in regards to what style they want to pursuit!
Do you like Kagawa?I'm more of an Ole Boy
true but most former United players (including those in the media) were firmly in Poch's camp.
This has already been discussed further up, April, a week after he said we were 6 years behind Liverpool and had talked himself out of the permanent job.
And yes, the current DoF hired him because he's never done the job before and had just spent ages at the RB place talking to him. It's one of the few smart things Murtough did and then immediately backtracked on it under pressure.
The players conducted themselves better under Jose then they have done under ETH?
I was referring to Ole. Ronaldo was Ole's signing not ETH's
Given one had 6 years and the other had maximum 6 months there's a lot more to be excited about if one is a tactical genius who is going to have a painful start... we certainly didn't get any lessons in tactics.
I felt the same at the time but I honestly think Ten Hag knew something was brewing (ie. the interview, or just some public declaration against him from Ronaldo) and gave him the captaincy to make the lack of respect angle look like complete nonsense.
It sounds far fetched but it’s not inconceivable.
Exactly why I said it was hardly mind blowing stuff.
Wow! There are still people here licking Ralf’s boots?! Amazing!
This clearly was never the case. Do you have any evidence for this?
All our shower of shit post-Fergie managers are best forgotten. They were all absolutely fecking useless.
Thankfully, we have hired a talented manager, who has instilled a winning mentality, and wants to play modern, progressive football. Only took us the best part of ten years to get here...
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SAF was properly backed both with time and resources something Rangnick wasn't. TBF United is a different beast as well. I doubt that SAF would have gotten anywhere near the patience (or would have needed that patience in the first place) if he was managing this side.
Suggesting that Ralf was the one that tipped United about Ten Hag, when it would be the equalent of Ralf tipping the board about up and coming footballer Lionel Messi.
Everyone with a internet access with interest in football knew who Ten Hag was, Ralf gets no brownie points for that one.
Some of Redcafe have a bachelors degree in history revisionism
Fair enough, odd to refer to an incident that happened under ETH in that case.
You originally said the details about his consultancy didn't come out until August though. The only thing he talked himself out of was the consultancy gig.
He was never hired to be the DOF, I have seen zero evidence for this theory. Do you have any to back this theory up?
Because I can link you to official club statements and numerous articles that detail what his future role was envisaged to be when he was hired and which role he was removed from when he left the club after last season.
This has been one of the more bizarre myths I've seen on the Caf. It was strange enough when Ralf was still here but its even more bizarre that it continues despite reality proving otherwise.
My point was that while Mou's did lose the dressing room and had saddled us with some bad signings, none of his signings went as far as to shit on the club in public as Ronaldo did.
That is a blatantly obvious fact and thank for reminding us but is is not the point!
Point is they had a whole list of candidates and Ralf had a big part in chosing the manager on that list. He took the best decision there and opted for the interesting choice rather than all other "safe picks"
It's not fair to him to completely brush that off as nothing.
And then someone else pointed it out and we discussed it there.
And I never said the actual DoF, I said de facto DoF to oversee our completely inexperienced DoF.
Lukaku has done something similar at every club he's been at in fairness.
And don't forget Maureen shat on one of our now top players
That is a blatantly obvious fact and thank for reminding us but is is not the point!
Point is they had a whole list of candidates and Ralf had a big part in chosing the manager on that list. He took the best decision there and opted for the interesting choice rather than all other "safe picks"
It's not fair to him to completely brush that off as nothing.
How do you know Ralf had anything to do with the appt?
He said himself he had no direct role in the recruitment of the new manager. ETH impressed them when they spoke to him but Ralf wasn't involved in those discussions. If they didn't like what ETH had to say nothing anyone else said about him would have made a blind bit of difference. It's the interview and the interview alone that counts.
They were but I don't see how Ralf gets any praise when he wasn't directly involved in the hiring process.
Maybe he did and maybe he didn't but Ralf did recommend him and he might not even have got an interview without it
VdB didn’t, and it’s hardly clear whose signing that was. Sancho played plenty, although I would again raise questions about who was leading transfers during that time.
That is a blatantly obvious fact and thank for reminding us but is is not the point!
Point is they had a whole list of candidates and Ralf had a big part in chosing the manager on that list. He took the best decision there and opted for the interesting choice rather than all other "safe picks"
It's not fair to him to completely brush that off as nothing.
You're embarrassing yourself.
He was. And the telling of home truths was a necessary precursor to getting ETH. But the bad take section of the caf (which is most of it) were still sulking about Ole and Ronaldo so they didn't want to hear it. And obviously he lost a load of football games which never helps. But he was right.
As I recall the management wanted to appoint Poch.
Give me a break!
The best up and coming manager in Europe that the majority of United fans wanted in the job wouldn't have gotten an interview if it wasn't for Ralf. That's actually hilarious.
Crazy notion alright.
It was Ronadlo that truly sunk Ole. The malaise hung around the club even when ETH (a manager with a far better pedigree and backroom staff who was also able to bring in half a first team with him) Ronaldo upset everything he touched in his second spell here. Same as at Juve. I don’t think Ole or Ralf were the guys to take us forward but no manager was going anywhere trying to accommodate the ego.
I don’t think this is true. ETH was just the outstanding candidate and the fans choice.
Given the people in charge you cannot discount it, it's unlikely I agree but most of this forum said we should boot out Rashford 6 months ago and that's not going to be likely now is it
This is slander.
ETH wasn’t a niche pick, and RR was probably as far away from the decision as possible considering how he conducted himself while here (as demonstrated by the club pushing him out the door altogether).
You really think the people making the decision give a rats about what the fans think, these are the people who got us in to the mess we were in pre-ETH in the first place, they wouldn't know an outstanding candidate if it jumped up and bit them in the ass
In a one to one interview with Piers Morgan? I must have missed that
From the decision yes, he said he had no part in the decision but that's not what I said
So he had no power in bringing in vdb, sancho and Ronaldo. What did Ole do exactly? Booking holidays in the middle of a crisis maybe?
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