phelans shorts
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Why is this clowns name still being brought up in relation to us. He was an unmitigated disaster that thankfully we’ve moved on from.
Don't worry about it mate. That poster seems to have an issue with me, I tend to ignore them.Totally different?
We're getting off topic here so this is all I'll say.
If I made a post saying Rangnick got a £15m pay-off (Which was the widely reported figure). But then later followed that up by posting an article that claims it was actually £14.7m shared between Rangnick and his staff (so Chris Armas and a shrink). Or something to that effect.
Yeah I'd think it was harsh and a bit unnecessary if someone called me a liar. That's just my opinion though mate, you do you.
Ole was better than him last season.At least he wasn't Ole; the positives end there.
It was misleading and deliberately inaccurate due to agenda.
Not a fan of that. If you are then that’s cool. You do you!
Ole was better than him last season.
Yes by some margin as well. Ralf probably did more damage than even Moyes
Ralf Rangnick
Games: 21
Won: 9
Drawn: 9
Lost: 3
Goals for: 29
Goals against: 21
Clean sheets: 6
Points per game: 1.71
Win rate: 42.8%
Loss rate: 14.2%
Goals per game: 1.38
Goals against per game: 1.0
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer
Games: 17
Won: 7
Drawn: 3
Lost: 7
Goals for: 28
Goals against: 29
Clean sheets: 2
Points per game: 1.41
Win rate: 41.1%
Loss rate: 41.1%
Goals per game: 1.64
Goals against per game: 1.7
I still think he was a massive asset to our team. He was the first to highlight the clear deficiency the former Cardiff manager left behind
Where on earth did you get those stats from?No
Both were shit, but let's not let personal feelings influence reality.
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Ralf Rangnick
Games: 21
Won: 9
Drawn: 9
Lost: 3
Both were shit, but let's not let personal feelings influence reality.
This is bollocks. You can’t seriously believe a word of it. Austria needing a manager is the best thing that could have happened to us in the summer100% this. He highlighted publicly the horrendous issues of our club. He may not have been a brilliant manager, but he set the public magnifying glass on the atrocious state of the club that spurred us on.
I will never hate the man. He was given no proper trans window and was given a shower of shite team with no confidence mid-season.
To be fair, all his best work has been as a DoF. It's quite possible to think he was utterly unsuited to being Man Utd manager, let alone caretaker manager, while also being potentially a big asset in how we operate as a club off the pitch.This is bollocks. You can’t seriously believe a word of it. Austria needing a manager is the best thing that could have happened to us in the summer
The apologists would always find excuses for this cnut. The most fraudulent of frauds in the history of this club.
I will never forget those that acted as if our success going forward hinged on him being at the club running ship on footballing decisions. This is the nonsense that he sold to the gullible, he came to the club to divide and conquer and it was obvious to anyone that wasn't blinded by their hatred for Ed and the Glazers.
Even funnier are the fans that were angry at ten Hag for not wanting to work with Ralf. Rangnick was as toxic as Mourinho, possibly even more. EtH has restored the good vibes as well as great squad unity, a far cry from the destroy and rebuild doctrine of wreck it Ralf.
He's honestly a stain on this club, but thankfully it only lasted six months.
Yes by some margin as well. Ralf probably did more damage than even Moyes
It doesn’t matter where the manager comes from, if they are capable. Ultimately ole wasn’t up to a long term job, even if he was a great interim.
The appeal of Rangnick is that he "highlighted" issues but he's not some talk show host/newspaper columnist to be assessed by the quality of his opinions. He was hired to, in the short term, get Utd back into the top 4 and he failed woefully whilst presenting a toxic presence.100% this. He highlighted publicly the horrendous issues of our club. He may not have been a brilliant manager, but he set the public magnifying glass on the atrocious state of the club that spurred us on.
I will never hate the man. He was given no proper trans window and was given a shower of shite team with no confidence mid-season.
In many ways it was an important step we needed to detoxify the Ole, Morinho eras. Ralf was able to diagnose the problems we had and still have, with the mishmash of players available.
I’m having a go at you for always saying “Cardiff manager” like it’s an insult. My point is it doesn’t matter what club they managedOle's football style was non existent, under him players power went off the roof and we spent silly money on shit/overrated players (bar Bruno). You would think that a guy whose only experience out of Norway was described as a car crash would never get the united's job. Unfortunately common sense wasn't our forte back when Mates FC was in vogue
He was hired to do two jobs, interim manager and de facto DoF. I think you need to be able to see the difference between the two. There's no doubt he was an awful caretaker (but that's on the club, he was never suited to that role, it was setting him up to fail).The appeal of Rangnick is that he "highlighted" issues but he's not some talk show host/newspaper columnist to be assessed by the quality of his opinions. He was hired to, in the short term, get Utd back into the top 4 and he failed woefully whilst presenting a toxic presence.
I’m having a go at you for always saying “Cardiff manager” like it’s an insult. My point is it doesn’t matter what club they managed
A 3rd and 2nd place finish in the league isn't disastrous, Solskjaer's tenure at United ended poorly and he probably wasn't the one to take us to the next level but it's a flat out misuse of the English language to call it disastrous.It sort of does if his only two managerial experience out of Norway (one of which at Cardiff) were nothing short of disastrous.
He was an interim manager, the broader club and squad issues mean nothing. His job was to come in and steady the ship until the end of the season. What he did was the exact opposite. He came in and pretty much abandoned his actual job and started playing self appointed Director of Football.The irony in calling Rangnick toxic while posting this and ignoring the broader club/squad issues. Well done.
You’re missing my point, the club is irrelevant. The way the manager performs is relevant.It sort of does if his only two managerial experience out of Norway (one of which at Cardiff) were nothing short of disastrous.
Yes by some margin as well. Ralf probably did more damage than even Moyes
He was an interim manager, the broader club and squad issues mean nothing. His job was to come in and steady the ship until the end of the season. What he did was the exact opposite. He came in and pretty much abandoned his actual job and started playing self appointed Director of Football.
He absolutely was toxic here and has a history of it too. Even the great Paolo Maldini doesn't think much of him.
A 3rd and 2nd place finish in the league isn't disastrous, Solskjaer's tenure at United ended poorly and he probably wasn't the one to take us to the next level but it's a flat out misuse of the English language to call it disastrous.
You’re missing my point, the club is irrelevant. The way the manager performs is relevant.
United were ok to get him as interim, we just needed someone to unshackle Jose’s nonsense. However with hindsight that’s all it should have been.
however I will say this. If we had to suffer for a time in order to be Erik time I will take it over again
There you’re at it again, you don’t need to say “Cardiff manager” to make your point. They were a PL team at the time.Someone like ETH should have been hired immediately after Mou was gone. We went for a failed Cardiff manager and then a DOF as manager instead. God knows who takes football decisions at our club
Every Man Utd manager spends a lot of money, the club spends a lot of money. He spent a net average of £90m per season which is what every other manager spends here. His spending in no way put the club in any danger that they weren't insistent on putting themselves in.He won nothing and he spent 420m+ on players who were (apart from.Bruno) crap. Player power went off the roof and under him the club became comedy gold. I mean he fecks on holiday during a crisis when he'sbasicallyon borrowed time?
I guess we should thank him for making it impossible for the Glazers to retain us. I mean Arnold's were is the 1b investment on the pitch does scream of Ole. However I doubt that he did it on purpose
He was hired to do two jobs, interim manager and de facto DoF. I think you need to be able to see the difference between the two. There's no doubt he was an awful caretaker (but that's on the club, he was never suited to that role, it was setting him up to fail).
There you’re at it again, you don’t need to say “Cardiff manager” to make your point. They were a PL team at the time.
ETH wouldn’t have been ready for United at that time. It’s fate that he is where he is now. We’d have probably been stuck with someone else going nowhere for a few years
Interim managers invariably come in to clubs in less than ideal circumstances. Their only remit for the most part is to steady the ship and focus on the next game only.What absolute nonsense.