Tom Van Persie
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I've read he's not expected to get his work visa until midweek so Arsenal is looking unlikely anyway. I'll be surprised if the announcement is not made tomorrow.
To be fair, this isn't unreasonable but it feels longer because this should have been done over the international break and now we have a game every 3/4 days.
Ugh, I just want a clean slate already.
Manager appointments are not usually slow, just look how quickly OGS was in the job.
I've read he's not expected to get his work visa until midweek so Arsenal is looking unlikely anyway. I'll be surprised if the announcement is not made tomorrow.
I've read he's not expected to get his work visa until midweek so Arsenal is looking unlikely anyway. I'll be surprised if the announcement is not made tomorrow.
That would be absolutely ludicrous. Surely there are fast track exceptions.
If we are talking about just this season, it went on for 6 weeks longer than it should, at best. The Everton game is when alarm bells should have been ringing and change made over the following int. break. We could’ve been still within touching distance of 1st instead of 5 pts off 4th.Yeah like so many have already said this went on two weeks longer than it should. So neglecting to not spend international break getting him in place.
Is it just me or are we always getting stung with visa issues?
I thought the visa requirement was basically salary, so that won't be a problem.I wonder if anything has changed with regard to working visas since then…
Its incredible isn't. Mind boggling. He actually went on a holiday and then that interview. Jesus christ.This.
Whoever the feck on our board voted and decided to stick with Solskjaer over the international break and let him go on a 9 day holiday needs their head examined. It was painfully obvious what needed to happen after City.
Now we’ve got games thick and fast with no international breaks to carry out a smooth transition. Great going United. You finally made a good decision but boy did you arrive at it late and pick the worst possible time to carry it out.
Compared to recent United, eg against Liverpool, City, Watford etc it was decent. I'd say solid. We set up for a 0-0.
Compared to where we should be and the opposition, pretty rubbish. Only one team interested in playing football with some quality and finesse. We went for the underdog tactics again.
I said this many times under Ole, but you will know we are back when we go out against a top level team and we're there ones dominating periods, probing their defence with good, intelligent possession, creating openings through smart movement and intelligent passing.
We saw none of that today. I'm not saying this as a stick to beat Carrick with, but that's what this performance was today. We've had loads of these over the last 3 years. Let's call a spade a spade.
When was the last time we dominated games against big teams away?
exactly.Even going back to Fergie, we would set up for the counter. I can't remember any.
LvG had a go.When was the last time we dominated games against big teams away?
When was the last time we dominated games against big teams away?
I'd completely forgotten about the holiday. That was truly bizarre.Its incredible isn't. Mind boggling. He actually went on a holiday and then that interview. Jesus christ.
We didn't set up for the counter. We played more cautiously, mainly through SAF rotating some workhorses in big games, but we never sat back in our own half hoping for a chance or two to score.Even going back to Fergie, we would set up for the counter. I can't remember any.
I have such a weird reputation on here!I agree. The thing is; do we really need miracles? We've been phenomenally hopeless as a club for years now. We don't need the footballing equivalent of @Cheimoon - able to calculate pi to thirteen million digits out loud whilst simultaneously perfectly making a hundred soufflés on a tin can stove (or something). All we really need is someone who can help develop a plan for the club going forward.
I've seen so many people saying "if he's so good then why was he in Russia" or "he's not a Pep style tactical mastermind and his former coaches have surpassed him". So what?! Are we forgetting that he's not replacing Pep, Tuchel or Klopp? He's replacing a manager who wasn't working, just like the previous three before him, under a senior management structure that had next to no organisation whatsoever.
We don't need "incredible" to be successful, we only need "good" and as far as I can see Rangnick is at least that both as a coach and director.
We didn't set up for the counter. We played more cautiously, mainly through SAF rotating some workhorses in big games, but we never sat back in our own half hoping for a chance or two to score.
I really do not understand why that is used as example to follow. It is true that under Sir Alex, we set up conservatively against big teams especially in Europe but our record in Europe or indeed against Mourinho and Rafa teams for example was far from great. It was a setup born out of struggling to carry our PL territorial dominance in the '90s and early '00s. A setup that Fergie himself resented if you read his book when he talks specifically about that game against Barcelona.exactly.
Even going back to Fergie, we would set up for the counter. I can't remember any.
When was the last time we dominated games against big teams away?
Delusional
They could (maybe should) have had 4 or 5. We created absolutely nothing, it was a pathetic, cowardly display that somehow managed to win a point.
Eh, beyond the first 5 minutes, De Gea wasn't stretched a lot.
Feels like it. Wasn’t there also a COVID thing recently other players were transferred and allowed to play and ours weren’t?Is it just me or are we always getting stung with visa issues?
Rangnick is a clever man
After Arsenal, a favourable run of fixtures to establish his system/style and hopefully get some winning momentum:
Palace (H)
Young Boys (CL - H)
Norwich (A)
Brentford (A)
Brighton (H)
Newcastle (A)
Burnley (H)
Wolves (H)
Villa (A)
West Ham (H)
Burnley (A)
Soton (H)
Though, then immediately followed by this:
CL R16 - Leg 1
Leeds (A)
CL R16 - Leg 2
Watford (H)
City (A)
Spurs (H)
Liverpool (A)
Leicester (H)
CL QFs - Leg 1 (Bugger off. We'll make it! )
Everton (A)
CL QFs - Leg 2
This would be a good idea. It remains to be seen how things go for Rangnick, but from watching him coach for a full season in 18/19, he's a better coach than Pochettino IMO.I was thinking on the RR situation a little this morning and I think what might be the perfect way to go about this transition is to have Rangnick be the manager for 18 months through to the end of next season and to then get someone in as the permanent manager and then start the 2 year consultancy with Rangnick at that point as I'm not sure how much impact he'll have on us if he's coming in now (just as we hit a period of a game every 4 days - so he'll little to no actual time on the training ground) and he's only here for 6 months.
Give him 18 months to implement what needs to be implemented and then move him upstairs. Sure it carries with it a risk of ETH &/or Poch being unavailable at that point but equally, it could also open up a spot for an Amorim, or a Potter or maybe a Lopetegui at that point in time too.
In the end I think we'll do the 6 month gig and maybe I'm underestimating our squad's capacity to adapt to his methods, but I think giving him the full season next year gives him much more scope to build the squad up for the next man in a sustainable manner.
The Board made this decision when they pulled the trigger on Ole. Nothing to do with Rangnick.
Under van Gaal we dominated Liverpool at Anfield, and we won.
We dominated Chelsea at Stamford Bridge ( we lost 1-0, though Rooney really should have scored).
So what?
They had 24 shots and 15 corners. We had 3 and 2.
Under van Gaal we dominated Liverpool at Anfield, and we won.
We dominated Chelsea at Stamford Bridge ( we lost 1-0, though Rooney really should have scored).
Well regardless, it's a fortunate fixture run to start off. Hopefully just what we need.
Vibes & Feelings FC.Its incredible isn't. Mind boggling. He actually went on a holiday and then that interview. Jesus christ.
Juanfield is one of my favorite matches in the post-SAF era. Heavy metal football silenced in their own stadia. Think it was the players themselves, talking about how they felt the whole match was in their control, metronomic.Van Gaal.
Definitely under Van Gaal we dominated some games against big teams. Can't think of it ever happening under Jose; maybe once or twice under Ole? It's certainly been the last 4-5 years we've been generally pragmatic in big games.When was the last time we dominated games against big teams away?