Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?

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RedPed said:
So the same people that refused to judge him after two-thirds of an appalling season at United are jerking off and proclaiming him as Messiah after just one international game with Austria.

Wow, the Rangnite cult really is a thing, ffs. :lol:

It's pretty clear who rates him and who doesn't but he's at Austria now and we have ten Hag so who really gives a feck anymore. Thread just needs to be closed now.
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What a wild overreaction. Quite a bit of disdain for an interim manager that some are just happy to see doing well post United. Way to try and ruin good vibes. Yikes.
 
Ted Lasso said:
What a wild overreaction. Quite a bit of disdain for an interim manager that some are just happy to see doing well post United. Way to try and ruin good vibes. Yikes.
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What about the overreaction to the 1 win being used as evidence that it was everyone else's fault.
 
crossy1686 said:
Funny that people who have routinely mocked Ralf now want the thread closed after he starts winning with Austria.
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He's no longer our interim manager, the thread should be closed. His followers would no doubt create new ones everytime he wins a game I suppose.
 
Ted Lasso said:
What a wild overreaction. Quite a bit of disdain for an interim manager that some are just happy to see doing well post United. Way to try and ruin good vibes. Yikes.
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The guy has won one game and people are 'happy' for him as if it proves anything. Just what should these 'good vibes' look like anyway? And why should we even be happy for him too? Just weird how they're quick to credit him after just one win ffs, but it was everybody else's fault at United.

If Ole went to a new club and won his first game, you'd still be saying how shit he was, I guarantee i.
 
Majima said:
Go on Ralf!

Marko Arnautović, Austria forward: "The players were full of energy. Croatia are an excellent team, but we played a great match. We turned our chances to goals and deserved this win. We want to return to the top."

Croatia midfielder Lovro Majer: "This is a disappointment for all of us. It was a strange match: we looked good in the first half and then we conceded from a counterattack. We were positioned badly the whole match and when we lost the ball, they turned it into a goal."

But I thought he couldn't set up a team?
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Sounds exactly like how we don’t want to play.

Good luck to him. I’ve always been skeptical but was just tired of complaining about poor managerial choices by the club.
 
I like Ralf, but it's one match. They have more tough matches with France and Denmark to come so let's now blow the Austrian Alp horn too early.

I been expect all the anti-Ralf crowd to be out in full force when Austria lose their next match.
 
Ralf-lovers, Ralf-haters fecking hell, it's Rangnick, a fecking nobody at ManUtd and we have 2 camps for him :lol:

What he does for National team won't change anything that happened at ManUtd or his previous club. Van Gaal is still awesome manager going by National team form.
 
Close the thread and move on ffs. Just how much attention do we need to give an interim manager who would be less remembered in our history than Henrik larrson
 
crossy1686 said:
Funny that people who have routinely mocked Ralf now want the thread closed after he starts winning with Austria.
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I'd say it's substantially less funny than posters who posted stuff like this;


crossy1686 said:
The most impressive thing he's done so far is stopped us conceding at will. Now we're controlling matches with THAT midfield, if we can just find some cohesion upfront we'll finish 3rd this season. In the time he's been here he's done very well considering his methods revolve around hard work, and we have players that are totally averse to it.
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Moved to here;

crossy1686 said:
We don't have the structure in place for Ten Hag to succeed anyway unless Ralf moves upstairs.
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Comforted themselves with this;

crossy1686 said:
For what it's worth, we're the third best team in the league since Ralf took over on the 2nd of December. 18 points from a possible 27 in that time. Only behind City and Liverpool.
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Reframed his role as this;

crossy1686 said:
From all accounts he's been asked to take an interim managerial role with a responsibility of auditing the team and the club to an extent, with the aim of later moving upstairs.
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Doubled down on it;

crossy1686 said:
I think it's pretty clear that Ralf's job has been to audit and give feedback to the board. He's not here to coach past the basics, he's here to clean up
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crossy1686 said:
His role has very much been “let’s just watch it burn and see what’s salvageable”. Personally I think it’s the wake up a call a lot of people needed at the club. We can’t keep pretending everything’s fine with a top 4 finish and we can’t keep bouncing from 2nd to 7th because the players don’t fancy it this season anymore. That doesn’t happen at any other major club because the players have pride in their performances and know they’re finished at the top level if they play like this.
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Admitted defeat;

crossy1686 said:
I think he gave up trying to get anything out of the season when the board refused to back him with players in January and now he just plays whatever shit he can be bothered to prove a point to everyone.
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Before coming back to post this after a win for Austria (After disappearing for weeks)

crossy1686 said:
Whoops…

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It's the managerial equivalent of celebrating Harry Maguires header against Albania.
 
It's absolutely a knee jerk reaction. But I am certain this thread would be full of "see I told you so" if he lost as well.

One win doesn't tell us much. It is interesting to see the difference of a team that believes the tactic and follows it, compared to one that clearly didn't though. But let's see after 10 matches and then draw conclusions.
I don't really give a feck about Ralf now that he is gone but I do hope our players actually listen to Ten Hag.
 
He can win WC with Austria and it will not change the fact that his stint with us was abysmal.
 
Amir said:
Indeed.

Also, his abysmal stint with us won't change the fact he's shown himself to be a quality football man before.
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Agreed. However, this is no conciliation for us as United supporters.
 
RacingClub said:
I'd say it's substantially less funny than posters who posted stuff like this;




Moved to here;



Comforted themselves with this;



Reframed his role as this;



Doubled down on it;





Admitted defeat;



Before coming back to post this after a win for Austria (After disappearing for weeks)



It's the managerial equivalent of celebrating Harry Maguires header against Albania.
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Excellent work, sir. :lol: Just a typical example.
 
RacingClub said:
I'd say it's substantially less funny than posters who posted stuff like this;




Moved to here;



Comforted themselves with this;



Reframed his role as this;



Doubled down on it;





Admitted defeat;



Before coming back to post this after a win for Austria (After disappearing for weeks)



It's the managerial equivalent of celebrating Harry Maguires header against Albania.
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I've been pretty much down the middle with Ralf and what he's done while trying to make sense of it, but I'm sure you had nothing better to this morning other than go through all my posts on the matter and quote things out of context. I wouldn't consider myself in any 'camp' but it's weird that some of you are desperate to label people something so you can attack a 'group' that you have made up and don't 'agree' with.
 
crossy1686 said:
I've been pretty much down the middle with Ralf
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I don't think that's true at all, your "Whoops" post doesn't come across as a guy who is down the middle. (That plus all your easily accessible posts, you can see all of them in a list if you click "Who Replied")

The only reason I even relied to you is that I thought it was a little bit funny that the guy with the second most posts in this thread (heavily in favor of Rangnick) was finding it funny that the people he felt were routinely mocking Rangnick wanted the thread closed after he manages Austria to a Victory.

crossy1686 said:
I'm sure you had nothing better to this morning other than go through all my posts on the matter
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That's only partially true, I couldn't have possibly gone through all your posts (+300 on this thread) I just chose a quick few to illustrate my point. The part about having nothing else better to do (2/3 minutes) was true.


crossy1686 said:
it's weird that some of you are desperate to label people something so you can attack a 'group' that you have made up and don't 'agree' with.
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1. I didn't label you anything.
2. I didn't Attack a group.
3. I didn't make up anything, I just posted a collection of your statements on Ralf over the past 5 months.
 
Happy for Ralph and wish him well for the future.

He came in, told the world what we already knew and left.

The internet miserables will do what they have chosen to do with their time but Ralph will rock on :)
 
RacingClub said:
I'd say it's substantially less funny than posters who posted stuff like this;




Moved to here;



Comforted themselves with this;



Reframed his role as this;



Doubled down on it;





Admitted defeat;



Before coming back to post this after a win for Austria (After disappearing for weeks)



It's the managerial equivalent of celebrating Harry Maguires header against Albania.
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:lol:
 
This is truly embarrassing from some of you. He won his first match, so what? He won his first match with us too and with better finishing we could've scored 3 also.

If Ole got an international job and won his first game 3-0, these same posters would laugh at others for coming here with 'I told you so' and they would be right because its pathetic. Why don't we also bump the LVG thread, Netherlands hammered Belgium yesterday.

It all comes back to the Ralf fanclub being the most deluded set of 'fans' I think I've ever seen in all my time as a United supporter.
 
roonster09 said:
Ralf-lovers, Ralf-haters fecking hell, it's Rangnick, a fecking nobody at ManUtd and we have 2 camps for him :lol:

What he does for National team won't change anything that happened at ManUtd or his previous club. Van Gaal is still awesome manager going by National team form.
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Do we really? I mean most vs sides came from Ole vs RR, most those on RR side in it also think he is kinda shit or his United stint was shit but still not worse than under Ole. To be really in a camp so to say, you have to be so deluded to come out and say how RR didnt fail or his time as a United manager wasnt a failure.
 
So thats we gonna do now, looking at his time in Austria as a proof of him being good/not good? Seriously, he came, he failed, didnt spend anything, didnt do much of a harm when you take context in it ( not including weirdos that jack of on CL ), he left, the end.
 
R'hllor said:
Do we really? I mean most vs sides came from Ole vs RR, most those on RR side in it also think he is kinda shit or his United stint was shit but still not worse than under Ole. To be really in a camp so to say, you have to be so deluded to come out and say how RR didnt fail or his time as a United manager wasnt a failure.
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I have seen some amazing takes in this thread, how Rangnick came and exposed everyone, only honest person who worked for the club, person who spoke truth, how he couldn't have done anything more.

One camp laugh at Rangnick and other camp full of excuses.
 
I don't know how good he is and i don't care anymore but i know that any manager would fail here last half season. Ole left uncoached and spoiled team with low fitness. Because....training must be fun, eh?
 
A lot of Austrian NT experts coming soon
 
Andycoleno9 said:
I don't know how good he is and i don't care anymore but i know that any manager would fail here last half season. Ole left uncoached and spoiled team with low fitness. Because....training must be fun, eh?
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From Dec 2018 - May 2019, would have loved to see similar posts, like how previous manager left team with shit fitness, who could barely run. Its amazing how posts change based on who the manager is.

Anyways hopefully Rangnick will be a success at Austria, we planned something but it didn't work in the end.
 
roonster09 said:
I have seen some amazing takes in this thread, how Rangnick came and exposed everyone, only honest person who worked for the club, person who spoke truth, how he couldn't have done anything more.

One camp laugh at Rangnick and other camp full of excuses.
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Its all over the place tbh, some are desperate to shit on him so Ole doesnt end up on the bottom, some are so pissed at us nothing being in CL next season because thats only thing they care about, some using 3 years of Ole and squad he built/"trained" as a context of excuse for RR, which isnt really straight forward, only if RR had to pick same bunch of cnuts, otherwise he made his own decisions, some think that him putting out everything on the open so players cant hide as best thing ever happened, regardless of him admitting his own mistakes or not etc
 
roonster09 said:
From Dec 2018 - May 2019, would have loved to see similar posts, like how previous manager left team with shit fitness, who could barely run. Its amazing how posts change based on who the manager is.

Anyways hopefully Rangnick will be a success at Austria, we planned something but it didn't work in the end.
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Good luck with that :lol:
 
roonster09 said:
From Dec 2018 - May 2019, would have loved to see similar posts, like how previous manager left team with shit fitness, who could barely run. Its amazing how posts change based on who the manager is.

Anyways hopefully Rangnick will be a success at Austria, we planned something but it didn't work in the end.
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If nothing, Mourinho left well coached and prepared (fitness wise) team. If not, that team would not go in 10 games winning streak.
 
roonster09 said:
I have seen some amazing takes in this thread, how Rangnick came and exposed everyone, only honest person who worked for the club, person who spoke truth, how he couldn't have done anything more.

One camp laugh at Rangnick and other camp full of excuses.
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I mean thats not totally incorrect. He exposed the club in the same way Mourinho did, less toxic, but it was suicidal and he lost whatever position he was meant to take on post manager.

That said, the ending to his reign as manager was the worst we've witnessed which is a feat in itself given we had Moyes, van Gaals boring period, Jose actively throwing games and Ole in the past.

Then again, we set up ourselves up for this because, for some weird reason, most of redcafe rated Rangnick highly and then got slapped in the face when a guy not known for his managing couldnt manage a football club.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
I mean thats not totally incorrect. He exposed the club in the same way Mourinho did, less toxic, but it was suicidal and he lost whatever position he was meant to take on post manager.

That said, the ending to his reign as manager was the worst we've witnessed which is a feat in itself given we had Moyes, van Gaals boring period, Jose actively throwing games and Ole in the past.

Then again, we set up ourselves up for this because, for some weird reason, most of redcafe rated Rangnick highly and then got slapped in the face when a guy not known for his managing couldnt manage a football club.
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Only thing they exposed is how they take 0 responsibility for their coaching and tactical set up. Ofcourse we have holes in the squad but nowhere near shit Rangnick want everyone to believe.
 
roonster09 said:
Only thing they exposed is how they take 0 responsibility for their coaching and tactical set up. Ofcourse we have holes in the squad but nowhere near shit Rangnick want everyone to believe.
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In fairness, do managers take responsibility for their failures? Doesnt Klopp make a million excuses every time they lose? I dont know. Honestly, we all need to move on from the past and forget the managers gone by. None of them were particularly good.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
In fairness, do managers take responsibility for their failures? Doesnt Klopp make a million excuses every time they lose? I dont know. Honestly, we all need to move on from the past and forget the managers gone by. None of them were particularly good.
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Blaming refs, wind, grass is different from blaming entire squad. Having good relationship between manager and players is very important, you can't just blame entire squad in PC and then expect good atmosphere in dressing room.

Agree with your other point, none of them were good, at least at the time we hired.
 
Di Maria's angel said:
I mean thats not totally incorrect. He exposed the club in the same way Mourinho did, less toxic, but it was suicidal and he lost whatever position he was meant to take on post manager.

That said, the ending to his reign as manager was the worst we've witnessed which is a feat in itself given we had Moyes, van Gaals boring period, Jose actively throwing games and Ole in the past.

Then again, we set up ourselves up for this because, for some weird reason, most of redcafe rated Rangnick highly and then got slapped in the face when a guy not known for his managing couldnt manage a football club.
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Wrong. He exposed himself as a past it manager just as Mourinho did. The only exposing he did of the club was hiring yet another fraud who can’t coach or inspire the players.
 
Was brought in to transform the inner workings of the club. They didn’t like what he had to say. He left. His stint as manager on the ground floor was supposed to give him a thorough understanding of the issues. Sadly his lack of points during this period turned too many of the fan base and perhaps his superiors against him and his opinions. They should have not been linked in my opinion and his expertise at turning clubs around behind the scenes should and is still needed here. Big shame for me.
 
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