He's playing them all!!!!
Ralf Rangnick | ex-interim manager | does anyone rate him?
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ETH will be fine. He's on the up and is actually relevant in the world of coaching today. Not some self-proclaimed professor of football who we had to bring out of the Russian wilderness.
You're telling me. It's just hilarious. At this stage I think they're either wums or we have a couple dense folk here.
People can’t comprehend this. Their problem.
Brutal.
No, just morons like yourself who struggle to interpret them.
Who else are we going to play. Chucking a load of kids is not a good idea.
Playing style and structure? Have you watched a single game over the past two months?
Did Liverpool start winning titles within a year of Klopp coming in? Change takes time.
I can interpret data fine thank you. No need to be insulting is there. Wind your neck in pal.
So you don’t recognise Ralf’s influence on German football, nor his club building, nor his personal influence on some of the top coaches today? Weird.
You think one should just scrap 10 and play 10 kids? That's a smart move? Have a word with yourself. Interims will almost always rely on experienced players to navigate tricky periods. The journey that feck all listen to him is one he can't get out of. It's not like he hasn't dropped certain players - Rashford, Sancho, Pogba, Shaw have all been dropped. AWB has been dropped in some games and Dalot has in some.
Again, 10+ players are leaving. This is an irrecoverable position for any manager.
I mean not really because as far as I’m aware those figures are incorrect.
and to use your analogy RR's turned up and found he's not good enough to put out the fire
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You can't save a house that's already burned down. This is my analogy.
People used to take the piss out of the 'cult of Ole'. The 'cult of Rangnick' is even more fecked up!
The arguments being used to justify his shitshow of a tenure are just derisory and laughable. I'm convinced people are just trolling in this thread now because they can't be right in the head if they think Ralf's time here has been anything but disastrous.
Can't wait to see what arguments they come up after we have played Chelsea on Thursday.
The arguments being used to justify his shitshow of a tenure are just derisory and laughable. I'm convinced people are just trolling in this thread now because they can't be right in the head if they think Ralf's time here has been anything but disastrous.
Can't wait to see what arguments they come up after we have played Chelsea on Thursday.
Ah… I see.
so 25 matches isn’t enough to gauge Ralf’s performance on results because the sample size is too small, BUT it is large enough for YOU to use xG and xGD to claim that Ralf has improved us??
That would be checkmate fella.
I don’t understand how so many people are putting a lot of the blame on him. He had no power to change ANYTHING. He couldn’t sell or buy players in to improve the squad, all he was brought in to do is improve the shit show before.
Atleast Ole inherited a team although shit were drilled defensively by Mourinho and that surely benefited Ole during his first few games. Ralf literally had to teach these players basically how to pass a ball again because for three years there was no technical training just vibes.
Ole has done the worse damage to this team more than any other manager post Sir Alex. He gave contract extension to poor players who barely contribute (Jones, Mata, Grant, Matic etc) like he was Father Christmas giving out presents, bought expensive flops in Maguire, Bissaka, James and bad signings in Telles, Ighalo,
And before you say just play the kids. Use common sense.
Atleast Ole inherited a team although shit were drilled defensively by Mourinho and that surely benefited Ole during his first few games. Ralf literally had to teach these players basically how to pass a ball again because for three years there was no technical training just vibes.
Ole has done the worse damage to this team more than any other manager post Sir Alex. He gave contract extension to poor players who barely contribute (Jones, Mata, Grant, Matic etc) like he was Father Christmas giving out presents, bought expensive flops in Maguire, Bissaka, James and bad signings in Telles, Ighalo,
Who the feck do you want him to play when he couldn’t even bring his own players in huh, the tea lady? the kitman or the grounds man?
And before you say just play the kids. Use common sense.
Catch of the dayAh… I see.
so 25 matches isn’t enough to gauge Ralf’s performance on results because the sample size is too small, BUT it is large enough for YOU to use xG and xGD to claim that Ralf has improved us??
That would be checkmate fella.
It's a shit analogy...stop using it ffs.
I do find it amazing that some of Ole's biggest boot lickers like @Samid are so critical of RR. It's hypocrisy at it's finest, and it's why I'll never take those posters serious about anything football related, ever again.
well he certainly hasn't begun building a new one either
No offence but with your logic on the caf you can't check the time let alone win a game of conversational chess.
The relevant stats I provided are a direct comparison between Ole and Ralf from this season alone. Ole’s 17 games versus Ralf’s 25
I thought you weren’t talking to me anymoreYou've just called me dense and now you're crying about people insulting you?
Why don't you give me your opinion on how you interpret it mate?
He can't until the summer. What he can do is start laying the foundations for next season, and his influence is proving material behind the scenes. This much is clear.
If you want to see how the new house looks, refer to next season.
Part of me wishes that ETH had of come in instead of Ralf. There's a very large possibility that we'd still be in the same position we're in now with the same toxic players/atmosphere and no new signings then the caf would still be bitching about how terrible a manager he is.
Then the other part of me is glad it was Ralf because now it at least gives ETH a fighting chance to succeed before the knives do come out. I've never seen such short sightedness in my life on why it's failing. It's ludicrous. Go onto any match day performance thread and the players are generally being slaughtered for their attitude and yet it's Ralf that's the main culprit.
You just can't make it up.
Then the other part of me is glad it was Ralf because now it at least gives ETH a fighting chance to succeed before the knives do come out. I've never seen such short sightedness in my life on why it's failing. It's ludicrous. Go onto any match day performance thread and the players are generally being slaughtered for their attitude and yet it's Ralf that's the main culprit.
You just can't make it up.
He's contracted for 2 years but caveats its also down to whether the new manager will take his opinions on board.
He is a consultant, he's there to give his opinions and whether his advice is taken is a matter for Murtough. He is not a DoF in that regard.
It is quite evident however that all of his opinions have been valued heavily, whether its to hire ETH in the first place over Poch or to prioritise certain positions (young striker being looked at by Judge for example right after Rangnick openly said this), or to overhaul transfer policy (no coincidence global scouts sacked the day after he gave the candid skysports interview).
To add to this, there are not many interim managers that have actually been successful (let's not mention Ole).
I do feel sorry for Ralf. I was pleased when we signed him as he's clearly a very intelligent guy and his style of football seen at previous clubs is attractive. He's made mistakes, no one is denying that, and selections at times have been questionable. Ralf maybe should be more assertive in that dressing room, as it sounds like the players just aren't really listening to him, however there is no debate that these players are a joke.
Pardon me, I am new here.
I am just wondering if this Ole fellow has a bunch of relatives in here?
I am just wondering if this Ole fellow has a bunch of relatives in here?
Why would he need to 'scrap' them?
Dalot wasn't at the club last season. Mata played 500 minutes in the PL last season. Lingard did not play a single minute of PL football for United last season. Phil Jones didn't play any football at all last season. Cavani could have been cleanly 'scrapped' in minutes with Ronaldo.
This is like me saying Ancelotti can't do a good job at Real Madrid because how is he going to handle Jovic, Mariano, Hazard, and Bale. The answer is quite simple, by not playing them!
Thank you, great to see that nuance still exists in society. Yes, both Ole and Ralf can be bad.
Rangnick is an interim manager, meant to see us through to the end of the season. He's moving upstairs soon into a role more suited to his skillset.
Also, this squad was broken beyond repair long before he arrived. Anyone expecting him to miraculously turn them into winners was only kidding themselves - the fact that the players gave him their best for 30 minutes before returning to shit once again is evidence of that.
I can't understand how people are holding him accountable for this squad's shitness when they played the exact same way under Ole. Don't ignore that 30 minutes against Palace.
Also, this squad was broken beyond repair long before he arrived. Anyone expecting him to miraculously turn them into winners was only kidding themselves - the fact that the players gave him their best for 30 minutes before returning to shit once again is evidence of that.
I can't understand how people are holding him accountable for this squad's shitness when they played the exact same way under Ole. Don't ignore that 30 minutes against Palace.
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