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Nah he's very strong.Dont think he is really strong, have seen him lose plenty of duels (aerial, shoulder to shoulder), but when he gets the chance to shield the ball, you cant push him away, maybe the first has to do with his fitness and rythm.
We made a 6m loan punt on a player who, previous to his injury, was the best striker in the world.
He's at the end of his rehabilitation and will suffer other little setbacks before he is 100% strong and supple.
I can forgive him for having a shot cleared of the line in his first 15 minute cameo in 5 weeks after having the best part of a year off before that. Especially when we are 3-0 up and Van Gaal put him on to stretch his legs and find his touch.
Your patience, or lack of, is hilarious.
We made a 6m loan punt on a player who, previous to his injury, was the best striker in the world.
He's at the end of his rehabilitation and will suffer other little setbacks before he is 100% strong and supple.
I can forgive him for having a shot cleared of the line in his first 15 minute cameo in 5 weeks after having the best part of a year off before that. Especially when we are 3-0 up and Van Gaal put him on to stretch his legs and find his touch.
Your patience, or lack of, is hilarious.
He's got a hell of a lot of work to do to justify any £44 million price tag in the summer.
I wonder if we have the option to re-negotiate a price if he doesn't hit those heights?
What would be the point of paying 44 m for a player who is 29,maybe injury prone and has a goal ratio Rooney could easily match if he was being played as a striker?You're going out of your way to be critical about Falcao - we get it, you aren't convinced. Don't get me wrong, you're a bloody good poster, but you're overly critical of Falcao.
I say it just needs patience. By many accounts, he's been training brilliantly since returning and what he needs now is minutes under his belt. It's utterly pointless judging him on yesterday's cameo, which will have been about blowing away the cobwebs for 20-25 minutes.
There's still 25 league games, plus FA Cup, to come this season - with Falcao's track record, 15 goals isn't beyond the realms of realism. Half a season scoring at that ratio should assuage any fears.
What would be the point of paying 44 m for a player who is 29,maybe injury prone and has a goal ratio Rooney could easily match if he was being played as a striker?
29 is the new 30Judgment must be suspended until the season's end. Club will then have a better picture on Falcao's long term fitness prospects.
Point I was making is if he has half a season of uninterrupted goalscoring form, that'll give the decision makers confidence. 29 is peak age, so not sure why you're ready to pension him off.
Because we have all seen how fast a top class striker on his peak can just fade/decline, saw it with RVP, saw it with Villa, Eto'o, Henry, Drogba, we have Rooney at the club, and we (should) have other priorities.Judgment must be suspended until the season's end. Club will then have a better picture on Falcao's long term fitness prospects.
Point I was making is if he has half a season of uninterrupted goalscoring form, that'll give the decision makers confidence. 29 is peak age, so not sure why you're ready to pension him off.
29 is the new 30
Because we have all seen how fast a top class striker on his peak can just fade/decline, saw it with RVP, saw it with Villa, Eto'o, Henry, Drogba, we have Rooney at the club, and we (should) have other priorities.
All maybe okay, but not bangin them in as before (except Drogba, he scored 29 league goals when he was (30/31)). I dont think RVP is a form question, he hasnt been near his first season form since SAF left, and especially in the year 2014 he has been overally poor, scoring under 10 league goals in the whole year. I just dont think it's worthy taking that risk when we have Roo at the club, and other priorities, obviously if Falcao hits his form and maintains it, it would be a good buy, but there is also a huge possibility that it turns the other way around.Not a conclusive sample as far as I'm concerned.
RvP - not definitely long term decline, LvG reckons just bad form. Also, look at likes of Bergkamp and Sheringham.
Villa was more to do with him sustaining a broken leg. Also, had to play a slightly diffferent role in a unique Barca system. Same sort of thing with Henry, actually.
Didier has had good form during his 30s. Eto'o regression understandable as he was a speed demon.
What would be the point of paying 44 m for a player who is 29,maybe injury prone and has a goal ratio Rooney could easily match if he was being played as a striker?
You can't rely on one player at this level. Falcao as we know can be the best striker in the world, clinical. It's not just about the raw numbers though, it's about percentages.
Remember that chance Welbeck had against Bayern? One on one with Neuer and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights. Strikers like Falcao when fit and played into form eat those chances for breakfast. That's what you pay for his quality.
The prices are stupidly high for top strikers. If and big if he can replicate his old form from Atletico in the second half of the season there is no doubt we should buy it. We will get a top top striker who will be on top of his game for at least two seasons.What would be the point of paying 44 m for a player who is 29,maybe injury prone and has a goal ratio Rooney could easily match if he was being played as a striker?
We made a 6m loan punt on a player who, previous to his injury, was the best striker in the world.
He's at the end of his rehabilitation and will suffer other little setbacks before he is 100% strong and supple.
I can forgive him for having a shot cleared of the line in his first 15 minute cameo in 5 weeks after having the best part of a year off before that. Especially when we are 3-0 up and Van Gaal put him on to stretch his legs and find his touch.
Your patience, or lack of, is hilarious.
actually that may just be you if you're serious about the use of the word "regret" hereFor us to regret not signing him he'll need to do better. Your mind must be exploding now.
Havent Rooney and RVP proved in the past that you can, but we dont have to rely on one player, we got players now like Di Maria, Mata, Herrera, Rvp, (one new winger) who can also be built on.You can't rely on one player at this level. Falcao as we know can be the best striker in the world, clinical. It's not just about the raw numbers though, it's about percentages.
Remember that chance Welbeck had against Bayern? One on one with Neuer and he looked like a rabbit in the headlights. Strikers like Falcao when fit and played into form eat those chances for breakfast. That's what you pay for his quality.
How would people feel if we got him on loan for another season if he has a strong second half to the season (injury free and chipping in with a few goals) ?
Didn't really "Miss" a sitter though..I didn't say he wasn't good enough. Let's not dress up the fact he missed a sitter today though.
Is saying a player hasn't shown he's been good enough yet or that he missed a sitter a lack of patience or an honest assessment of what's happened to date? Did you bother reading where I said if he stays fit I think he'll do well?We made a 6m loan punt on a player who, previous to his injury, was the best striker in the world.
He's at the end of his rehabilitation and will suffer other little setbacks before he is 100% strong and supple.
I can forgive him for having a shot cleared of the line in his first 15 minute cameo in 5 weeks after having the best part of a year off before that. Especially when we are 3-0 up and Van Gaal put him on to stretch his legs and find his touch.
Your patience, or lack of, is hilarious.
Is saying a player hasn't shown he's been good enough yet or that he missed a sitter a lack of patience or an honest assessment of what's happened to date? Did you bother reading where I said if he stays fit I think he'll do well?
If Falcao lifts the ball a couple of feet the defender has no chance. How anyone can say with straight face that wasn't a miss or he couldn't have done better is beyond me.Didn't really "Miss" a sitter though..
It was on target, the Hull defender just pulled off a superb block as he was right in the path of the ball from about 4 yards out, so not exactly much room to manoeuvre the ball into the corner or something, it happens. Plus the fact that he is getting in those positions is very promising too.
Ronaldos chip OVER the bar from 3 yards out with no keeper or player in the way? THAT is missing a sitter.
It was pointing out its a weird time to be talking about how we'll pay the price if we don't sign him. So far he hasn't shown himself to be the lethal striker we were told.It's your suggestion that missing that 'sitter' means anything about his chances with us that betrays a lack of patience.
We made a 6m loan punt on a player who, previous to his injury, was the best striker in the world.
He's at the end of his rehabilitation and will suffer other little setbacks before he is 100% strong and supple.
I can forgive him for having a shot cleared of the line in his first 15 minute cameo in 5 weeks after having the best part of a year off before that. Especially when we are 3-0 up and Van Gaal put him on to stretch his legs and find his touch.
Your patience, or lack of, is hilarious.
You're going out of your way to be critical about Falcao - we get it, you aren't convinced. Don't get me wrong, you're a bloody good poster, but you're overly critical of Falcao.
I say it just needs patience. By many accounts, he's been training brilliantly since returning and what he needs now is minutes under his belt. It's utterly pointless judging him on yesterday's cameo, which will have been about blowing away the cobwebs for 20-25 minutes.
There's still 25 league games, plus FA Cup, to come this season - with Falcao's track record, 15 goals isn't beyond the realms of realism. Half a season scoring at that ratio should assuage any fears.
How dare he not get over his injuries and adapt to English football immediately?
I was speaking Hypothetically if they did allow him out on loan again.Why do you think Monaco would agree to that? They'll be trying to off-load him for big money so that they don't get in FFP trouble.
He will score goals for fun as soon as he finds fitness and form. I think we will see this soon.
Btw, some of you guys who starting to turn on Falcao, did you guys rate Diego Costa high in Brazil?
