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4
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Yeah but if he doesnt show it, or if he doesnt get back to his best form, it wouldnt be a good risk to pay 50-60 million euro's.

I'm certain that he'll be back to his best after Christmas. A good six months of performances would reassure me at least.

We play 2 of them, but if you expect less of him, lets say 15 goals, would you pay the fee AS Monaco requires?

If he's playing well and getting goals - and have struck up a partnership with whoever upfront, then yeah.
 
I'm certain that he'll be back to his best after Christmas. A good six months of performances would reassure me at least.



If he's playing well and getting goals - and have struck up a partnership with whoever upfront, then yeah.
Dont really agree with this then, would only pay that kind of money if the player has a world class impact on us, just like di Maria has for example. Playing well and getting goals is a bit too little to pay 50-60 millions imo.
 
Just a question, what do you expect from him? If he isnt a 25 league goals striker, I wouldnt want us to get him for so much money.

I expect from him at least 20 to 25 goals yeah cause he was capable of that before. And of course if we wont be satisfied with him we wont buy him.
But maybe he'll be good with lets say 15 goals but overall displays will be good and he'll have lot of assists.
 
Dont really agree with this then, would only pay that kind of money if the player has a world class impact on us, just like di Maria has for example. Playing well and getting goals is a bit too little to pay 50-60 millions imo.

That's a fair opinion. I wouldn't worry though, he'll come good for us.
 
We play 2 of them, but if you expect less of him, lets say 15 goals, would you pay the fee AS Monaco requires?

It depends on the team:

- If we play with one striker, then no because Rooney is cheaper.
- If we play with 3 strikers like right now, no because we will need to buy an other striker to replace RVP and we could use 50m in a better way, unless Wilson and/or Henriquez can make it. (obviously it would be a luxury)
- If we play with 2 strikers, then yes if he scores 20 goals and 10 assists.
 
You can tell the people who are judging his performances thus far for United, and those that have a preconceived opinion of him and will refuse to accept anything other then that.

This translates to "everyone that thinks he's been underwhelming is right, and everyone disagreeing is wrong." If he had come directly to us from his last season at Atletico I think most would agree he's not lived up to his billing, as his form was so great at that point, but most here are simply being realistic about the injury he has come back from and the fact he is adapting to a new team and league as well as the fact we aren't playing him in his best role.

To me if you judge in context of the last 7 months he's had then his performances have been fine so far. Obviously if he's not doing more come January then I think we'll all start to get concerned, but not after 6 games where he's managed a goal and 2 assists playing in a role he isn't used to.
 
Its been 3 games,not 50.

This. Some of the reactions on here to his 3 starts have been laughable/pathetic. What were people expecting from someone who missed a large chuck of last season through a serious injury, is only getting back to match fitness, and is settling into a new club and league? Some people will never be happy.
 
This. Some of the reactions on here to his 3 starts have been laughable/pathetic. What were people expecting from someone who missed a large chuck of last season through a serious injury, is only getting back to match fitness, and is settling into a new club and league? Some people will never be happy.

Football fans are fickle. My only explanation. :)
 
So I'm not allowed to think he's been "underwhelming so far" in 3 starts?

Of course I am, I am allowed to have an opinion after 1 game. I have this opinion after 3.

Quote me where I wrote 'you're not allowed to think he's been underwhelming so far'.
 

It's too soon to form a proper opinion on him. You may be able to form an opinion on a player after 3 games (or even 1 as you suggest) but it won't be an accurate one. Like others I haven't been overly impressed by Falcao so far, however I am placing little or no weight on his performances so far due to the circumstances. If he is still playing like this come Christmas then people can judge him. It's ridiculous to be saying your underwhelmed by a player after a handful of games though.
 
It's too soon to form a proper opinion on him. You may be able to form an opinion on a player after 3 games (or even 1 as you suggest) but it won't be an accurate one. Like others I haven't been overly impressed by Falcao so far, however I am placing little or no weight on his performances so far due to the circumstances. If he is still playing like this come Christmas then people can judge him. It's ridiculous to be saying your underwhelmed by a player after a handful of games though.

My opinion is that Falcao has been underwhelming so far. The "so far" part shows that its a small amount of time and subject to change, which I'm hopeful of happening.

Else I'd just call him underwhelming, right? Because without the so far, it means I have a fully formed opinion of him that will be hard to change.

I don't know why its so complicated for some people.
 
It's just kind of a dumb thing to say after 3 games, especially when he's had a goal and 2 assists.
 
So many people struggling to grasp the meaning of 'so far'.
 
So many people struggling to grasp the meaning of 'so far'.

It's like watching first bit in Star Wars where the text scrolls down the screen and announcing that the film has been underwhelming so far.

It's not incorrect, just kind of stupid to say.
 
It's like watching first bit in Star Wars where the text scrolls down the screen and announcing that the film has been underwhelming so far.

It's not incorrect, just kind of stupid to say.

So I guess it stupid to say that Di Maria or Herrera have been impressive or how about Costa or Fabregas, seeing as its only been 4 games, right?

You can't have it both ways.
 
My opinion is that Falcao has been underwhelming so far. The "so far" part shows that its a small amount of time and subject to change, which I'm hopeful of happening.

Else I'd just call him underwhelming, right? Because without the so far, it means I have a fully formed opinion of him that will be hard to change.

I don't know why its so complicated for some people.

My point is it's a bit harsh calling him underwhelming so far considering his circumstances (serious injury, new club, new league, etc.). Judge his performances in a few months. Not after 3 games.
 
So I guess it stupid to say that Di Maria or Herrera have been impressive or how about Costa or Fabregas, seeing as its only been 4 games, right?

You can't have it both ways.

Well I could watch the start of a James Bond film and say "this is great" but it'd still be stupid to announce that the Godfather is underwhelming after 10 minutes.

So yes, I can have it both ways ;)
 
Well I could watch the start of a James Bond film and say "this is great" but it'd still be stupid to announce that the Godfather is underwhelming after 10 minutes.

So yes, I can have it both ways ;)

You can only have it both ways to suit your agenda.

Writing Falcao off after 4 games, and declaring him shit? Thats stupid.
Saying that his first few performances have been underwhelming? Thats an assessment.
 
You can only have it both ways to suit your agenda.

Writing Falcao off after 4 games, and declaring him shit? Thats stupid.
Saying that his first few performances have been underwhelming? Thats an assessment.

That depends on your expectations and I'd assert that anyone expecting him to do better than he has done so far has had expectations that are too high.
 
You can only have it both ways to suit your agenda.

Writing Falcao off after 4 games, and declaring him shit? Thats stupid.
Saying that his first few performances have been underwhelming? Thats an assessment.

It's not a fair/accurate one when you fail to take into account the fact that the player has just recovered from a serious knee injury, still isn't fully match fit, and is settling into a new club and league. If people are underwhelmed with the performances of the likes of Rooney, RVP or Mata then that's fair enough. However, given Falcao's circumstances he should be allowed some slack.
 
These are the factors you're failing to consider.

- new, physical league and faster pace of play. Adaptation takes time for any player (great or otherwise)
- First time in a long time, he plays as a partner striker at United. Has almost always played on his own. Has to play differently.
- He has admitted that he's still not 100% after the injury but has said he needs game time to get it back.
- Hailed by one and all as the deadliest number 9 in the past 3 or 4 years. Everyone from Ronaldo to ex-players.
I guess I'm just being cautious, not getting ahead of myself, especially given the chastising experience of last season. But the first three of these are all, while being very fair mitigating circumstances, things that could conceivably become longer term problems. He may struggle to adapt to our league. He may struggle to adapt to playing with a partner. His injury could have had a lasting impact on his game.

Nothing is going to take away what he was but, yes, he has been a little underwhelming for us. He hasn't been the world's deadliest looking striker. He hadn't had the start Costa has for example. I'll be surprised if he can match Costa's goal return this season.
 
It's not a fair/accurate one when you fail to take into account the fact that the player has just recovered from a serious knee injury, still isn't fully match fit, and is settling into a new club and league. If people are underwhelmed with the performances of the likes of Rooney, RVP or Mata then that's fair enough. However, given Falcao's circumstances he should be allowed some slack.

Why is he not match fit though? He had a full pre-season with Monaco, and even started the season with them.
 
Why is he not match fit though? He had a full pre-season with Monaco, and even started the season with them.

When you are out for as long as he was it takes more than a pre-season to regain your full fitness. When a player finishes a season in May they are only getting back up to speed come August. He got injured in February so he has more catching up to do compared to others. He hasn't lasted much past the hour mark in the 3 matches he has started so far and he had began to visibly tire in each. He regularly played 90 minutes before his injury so it's not something that he has struggled with in the past. He clearly isn't match fit but should reach that point in the next few weeks.
 
My point is it's a bit harsh calling him underwhelming so far considering his circumstances (serious injury, new club, new league, etc.). Judge his performances in a few months. Not after 3 games.

I'll judge 3 games on 3 games.

Our CBs are always coming back from injury, they get a few games and are judged. If they aren't brilliant, our fans want new CBs in

It's not a fair/accurate one when you fail to take into account the fact that the player has just recovered from a serious knee injury, still isn't fully match fit, and is settling into a new club and league. If people are underwhelmed with the performances of the likes of Rooney, RVP or Mata then that's fair enough. However, given Falcao's circumstances he should be allowed some slack.

Yes I'm underwhelmed by all of those players so far this season.

But none of the others came into the season with the reputation of being the best striker in the world, nor is this thread about them.
 
Directly involved in all three goals. Looks like he's hitting form at the right time.
:drool:
The guy is an absolute beast. If he starts hitting his stride alongside Di Maria, we're going to be a force to be reckoned with.
 
That's a cracking header. If Di Maria can stop flying corners over everybody maybe we can start being a goal threat from them again with headers like that.
If he's playing, I'd have thought Mata would be our best option for taking corners (and free kicks for that matter.)
 
That's a cracking header. If Di Maria can stop flying corners over everybody maybe we can start being a goal threat from them again with headers like that.


I don't understand why Di Maria is taking corners for us. It should be Rooney for left and RVP for right. They are better at it.
 
Come on. He's hardly set the world on fire so far.

His ability to hold the ball up and bring others into play has been really impressive. He has gotten an assist or goal in each of his starts. I judge the strikers' game by game for the most part, goal or no goal. I judge the strikers' overall season or form of 6 or so games by goals. So for example, there comes a point where his overall great play is no longer good enough and goals need to be added for me to consider him as playing great. That point for Falcao hasn't come yet as he has only had 3 starts thus far. In this short period I thought he has looked great.

If he fails to add more goals in the next couple of games despite his overall performance, then I will say he has been underwhelming.
 
I don't understand why Di Maria is taking corners for us. It should be Rooney for left and RVP for right. They are better at it.

It's more effective the other way around a right footer on the right and a left footer on the left.
 
Falcao has been fine but I understand people who are underwhelmed. Anybody who watched him 2 years ago knows how good he was/can be. He just looks a little rushed in front of goal to me.
 
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