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2014-15 Performances

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29
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4
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5
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Redo91 said:
No he is clearly saying that his goalscoring record is very impressive considering he is quiet injury prone.
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Inuries define careers. Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't be as lauded as they have been if they were not as freakishly injury-free as they were at their peak. Maybe Aguero would be seen as as at their level if he was as injury free. But he has not been, and thats football.

Knowing that your main striker will probably be injured again soon is not very comforting even if you know he's deadly on the days he is available. Even in the games he does not score in he'd surely be contributing.

I'd rather Falcao scored 15 goals in 30 games for us and avoid injuries, than score 20 goals in an injury hit season where he only plays 20 games. The strike rate might be more impressive, but I'd prefer consistency to the team, knowing he is always available, and I'm sure he'd be contributing mightily to the team even when he does not score just by terrifying defenders and freeing others.
 
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A fit Aguero is for me slightly better than a fit Falcao and RvP. Very close between them though when in form.
 
adamwest said:
Is he better than Aguero?
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We can't really tell until they play in the same league but I would say that Aguero is in a upwards pointing form while Falcao's last season was full of injuries and when he played it wasn't outstanding.

In form they are both equally talented though. Aguero has better dribbling, close control and the ability to make things happen on his own.

Falcao is a better finisher, inside and outside of the box.

So whoever has a team which plays to their strengths better will be the one performing at the higher level. Aguero already has a team well suited to his strengths though, while Falcao is still a question mark.

Worth to note is that Aguero is two years younger as well and most people would say that at 26 he's just reaching his peak.
 
charleysurf said:
Inuries define careers. Messi and Ronaldo wouldn't be as lauded as they have been if they were not as freakishly injury-free as they were at their peak. Maybe Aguero would be seen as as at their level if he was as injury free. But he has not been, and thats football.

Knowing that your main striker will probably be injured again soon is not very comforting even if you know he's deadly on the days he is available. Even in the games he does not score in he'd surely be contributing.

I'd rather Falcao scored 15 goals in 30 games for us and avoid injuries, than score 20 goals in an injury hit season where he only plays 20 games. The strike rate might be more impressive, but I'd prefer consistency to the team, knowing he is always available, and I'm sure he'd be contributing mightily to the team even when he does not score just by terrifying defenders and freeing others.
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I agree. I'm just saying the point being made was that given how many injuries Aguero has had his strike rate is more impressive than Rooney's. The debate was who is the better player between Rooney and Aguero. Injuries don't come into it when considering a players talents.
 
Annahnomoss said:
We can't really tell until they play in the same league but I would say that Aguero is in a upwards pointing form while Falcao's last season was full of injuries and when he played it wasn't outstanding.

In form they are both equally talented though. Aguero has better dribbling, close control and the ability to make things happen on his own.

Falcao is a better finisher, inside and outside of the box.

So whoever has a team which plays to their strengths better will be the one performing at the higher level. Aguero already has a team well suited to his strengths though, while Falcao is still a question mark.

Worth to note is that Aguero is two years younger as well and most people would say that at 26 he's just reaching his peak.
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Aguero is extremely injury prone though, and it's always recurring muscular injuries. Not beyond the realms of realism to suggest that he's past his physical best.
 
To be honest, I'll trade a fully
fit aguero for all 3 of Rooney, RVP and Falcao.

I do think he'll improve our team more than the 3 strikers we have at United combined. He's really that good when on form. I think the only striker on par would be Suarez.
 
daniel9988 said:
To be honest, I'll trade a fully
fit aguero for all 3 of Rooney, RVP and Falcao.

I do think he'll improve our team more than the 3 strikers we have at United combined.
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I'd trade all four for a fully functioning midfield and defence.
 
Redo91 said:
No he is clearly saying that his goalscoring record is very impressive considering he is quiet injury prone.

Anyone suggesting that Rooney is even on par with Aguero needs their head checked. There is however an argument that RVP is at Aguero's level. Rooney on the other hand? No. Just no.
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Not really,on form theres not much between them but Aguero shades it.

Remember we re comparing a 9 and a 9 and a half,Rooney assists add a different facet which many will argue on top of his goals he contributes more.Which is a valid enough argument.

VanP hasnt been at anywhere near Agueros level,injuries included ,for over a year.Maybe a little less,9 months.Thats not saying he isnt as good or better when bang in form though,its just its been a while.
 
matherto said:
I'd trade all four for a fully functioning midfield and defence.
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Our attack is less fuctioning than our midfield and defence, we have conceded 3 goals goals in 3 matches (1 shouldnt be allowed, and we havent played our best defence yet, Rafael, Shaw, Smalling, Rojo havent played yet) but we have scored 2 goals in 3 matches and havent created 5 chances... We havent given the opponents defence a hard time, our defence is way better than our attack on the field. RVP, Mata, Roo have been far worse than our defenders.
 
SonnyTheHaloPro said:
:lol:
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Premier league 2012-2013

Rooney 12 goals 11 assists Augero 12 goals 2 assists

Premier league 2013-2014

Rooney 17 goals 10 assists Augero 17 goals 6 assists

(Courtesy of myfootballfacts.com)

Like I said Sonnry, Augero hasn't been any better in the last couple of years than Rooney ;)
 
daniel9988 said:
To be honest, I'll trade a fully
fit aguero for all 3 of Rooney, RVP and Falcao.

I do think he'll improve our team more than the 3 strikers we have at United combined. He's really that good when on form. I think the only striker on par would be Suarez.
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That's plain dumb really. To ignore the fact that Aguero is rarely fully fit, a combo of RvP and Rooney alone brings more than Aguero on his own. Saying you would trade in Falcao too makes it even more ridiculous.
 
daniel9988 said:
To be honest, I'll trade a fully
fit aguero for all 3 of Rooney, RVP and Falcao.

I do think he'll improve our team more than the 3 strikers we have at United combined. He's really that good when on form. I think the only striker on par would be Suarez.
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Thank feck you're not in charge of the team. So assuming Aguero's fully fit, then the other 3 are too then? Just to be fair.
 
Ozio said:
Surely, you're only saying that because of Aguero's injury problems? Had he stayed fit and played consistently I think only RVP could match him.
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Do you want me to deduct goals from Rooney because Augero has injury problems? There is not much I can do about that! The plain truth is in the last couple of seasons Augero has been no better than Rooney. If that's becauseRooney's dipped in form or Augero's injury problems then who cares. But that's what is in the record books. I'm not saying Rooney is better or worse I'm just stating the facts for the past two season. If people want to take a goals per minute or dress it up whatever way then fine. But in a supposedly weaker team and for a man who is meant to be in decline Rooney has matched one of the best strikers in the world for goals and beaten him for assists. Sometimes people don't appreciate what they have till its gone.
 
Agüero is a top player but I really don't think he'll ever overcome his injuries. He may - like van Persie - manage one or two full seasons without any, but then when the comedown occurs and he does pick them up, he'll be older, and they'll begin to last longer. He's also, unlike van Persie or Falcao, very reliant on acceleration and sharp agility and balance, which will decrease further as the injuries persist.
 
Red Shorts said:
That's plain dumb really. To ignore the fact that Aguero is rarely fully fit, a combo of RvP and Rooney alone brings more than Aguero on his own. Saying you would trade in Falcao too makes it even more ridiculous.
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For me, Aguero is 26 years of age and has about 4-5 years of top level football left. And I did state the assumption of a 'fully fit' Aguero who's not injury prone.

Adding in the fact that we have Di Maria, Januzaj and Mata, I would think a front 3 of Aguero/ADM/Januzaj would be much more balanced in terms of speed and creativity.

That's added with Mata being supported by 2 relatively hardworking midfielders in Herrera and Blind (I still hope for Vidal or even Henderson-like players). It'll definitely allow Mata to play to his strengths rather than what we see in matches now.

Now that would be much better in my book, and if we can get in a few decent players to be their backup, our team which be infinitely more balanced.

Of course it'll be a bad deal to replace our 3 strikers with Aguero :lol:, but I prefer a balanced team compared to a team where you have to play all your damn star players.
 
Lawman said:
Premier league 2012-2013

Rooney 12 goals 11 assists Augero 12 goals 2 assists

Premier league 2013-2014

Rooney 17 goals 10 assists Augero 17 goals 6 assists

(Courtesy of myfootballfacts.com)

Like I said Sonnry, Augero hasn't been any better in the last couple of years than Rooney ;)
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Let's not be silly now. Surely there isn't even a need to refer to a text book to determine that Aguero was better than Rooney last season? I know it's all about opinions, but i genuinely reckon attempting to seriously argue that Rooney has been better than Aguero for the past two seasons almost calls the credibility of the caf into question. It's the kind of debate I'd be embarrassed for a non United fan from the outside to see.
 
golazo said:
Thank feck you're not in charge of the team. So assuming Aguero's fully fit, then the other 3 are too then? Just to be fair.
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I personally prefer Aguero's playing style to our 3 current strikers. He has that certain explosiveness, ability to pass players and pace that our current 3 strikers lack. Ability wise I think RvP and Falcao are on the same level with Aguero, but I just really enjoy teams with a front 3 that can defeat teams on the counter, and that's only if we have Aguero/ADM/Januzaj (He's not really that fast though) as our front three. Rooney/RVP/Falcao wouldn't be able to do that, and would make us have to play a completely different way.

Of course it's a bad deal, but it'll bring a much needed balance to our team IMO. And it's kind of my dream to see another team similar to that of a 07/08 Ronaldo/Tevez/ Rooney (Who could actually pass players back then) front 3 playing for United.
 
I get the impression a lot of United fans have never really watched Falcao and don't realise how good he actually is.
 
Lawman said:
Premier league 2012-2013

Rooney 12 goals 11 assists Augero 12 goals 2 assists

Premier league 2013-2014

Rooney 17 goals 10 assists Augero 17 goals 6 assists

(Courtesy of myfootballfacts.com)

Like I said Sonnry, Augero hasn't been any better in the last couple of years than Rooney ;)
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Worth nothing that Aguero played around 3500 minutes in that time and whereas Rooney played just under 4500. And of course the manner in which the goals were scored and the general influence in all round play are factors in who was better, both of which are strongly in Aguero's favour it has to be said.
 
El Zoido said:
I get the impression a lot of United fans have never really watched Falcao and don't realise how good he actually is.
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The more I read the caf the less necessary I feel it is to watch footy at all. All you need is Wikipedia or whatever site these geeks get their stats from.
 
El Zoido said:
I get the impression a lot of United fans have never really watched Falcao and don't realise how good he actually is.
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He's an astonishing player if he gets back to his best.

However, do his attributes allow us to change the way we play up front? Something which clearly isn't working right now.
 
My Barca supporting friend reckons Falcao is the best striker in the world and we United fans don't seem to realize just how good he is.
 
Ballache said:
My Barca supporting friend reckons Falcao is the best striker in the world and we United fans don't seem to realize just how good he is.
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He's absolutely right.

People keep talking as if it's a Drogba back to Chelsea signing.

He's 28 and world class. He's going to be sensational.
 
This is pure torture. It's like knowing what you're getting for Christmas but it's still a week away.
 
The second Falcao signed for United he aged 10 years and because semi-decent.

The second Welbeck joined Arsenal he because twice the player he ever was at United.

The world of football. :lol:
 
Aguero's injury problems are being overstated I feel. He picks up regular niggles (more in the last 18 months) but last season was the first time he hasn't played 40 games since he moved to Europe.

The best thing about him is he quite often doesn't come back with any rust at all. Certainly not like Rooney who can often take forever to find some rhythm.
 
RuudTom83 said:
The second Falcao signed for United he aged 10 years and because semi-decent.

The second Welbeck joined Arsenal he because twice the player he ever was at United.

The world of football. :lol:
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Browsing through other football forums, especially RAWK, gives me the feeling that Falcao has the technique of Heskey and is should be in an Old Folks Home rather than playing on a football pitch.
 
Imo RvP at his best is better than Aguero and Falcao at their best. RvP's link up play and ability to produce moments of magic out of nothing is crazy. His first half of the 12/13 season was immense. Although it's been a bloody long time since he has been in that form
 
United22 said:
Imo RvP at his best is better than Aguero and Falcao at their best. RvP's link up play and ability to produce moments of magic out of nothing is crazy. His first half of the 12/13 season was immense. Although it's been a bloody long time since he has been in that form
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Well, you are in luck. Because there's actually a chance of seeing an in-form Falcao and RVP up front this year.:drool:
 
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