Let's be honest here, if he SOMEHOW manages to get the crucial goals against Liverpool and the other big teams in the next few weeks then he will get a free pass to be here next season.
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That's why I think Moutinho would be a great signing for a lot of clubs in the Summer.
Emmerdale?
He's from Yorkshire, geddit?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/made-yorkshire-manchester-united-star-4446481
He will stay, I think that it's Toulalan who will leave.
feck sake, I thought it was because the end of his name was pronounced cow.
It worked for Forlan.
Forlan was in his early 20s, he was already a Manchester United player and he was on a salary at the lower end of our wage structure. Falcao is nearly 29 and he's one of the most paid players in the club. The club would expect more then 1-2 goals in key games from him.
As it was said here on prev page Shearer rightly pointed out on MOTD how he doesnt make any runs behind defense, plays with his back towards goal the whole time and comes for ball too much. There were few instances when his run could have opened space for him but he didnt do it. Is it lack of confidence or sthing else I dont know.
And therein lies the problem - He's no longer got the attributes required to run in behind. His pace is completely shot, his touch isn't good enough and he doesn't seem to be strong enough to hold off opponents... all the attributes you need to run in behind.
Mind you, two of those attributes are required when you come towards the ball as well... which is why he's rubbish when does that... we basically have a the poorest excuse for a striker in the shape of him when he plays up front.
It seems so.
There was one bit when he lost the ball to Wes Brown nesr the middle and from that Sunderland ran to a dangerous counter. It was so easy for Brown to take the ball and Falcao even fell to the ground. To make things worse he falls so easily nowadays.
I thought it was a shite decision to take him off tbh. Granted he was crap for most of the game, but he'd just pulled off a great touch and won us a pen plus they went down to 10 men. Was pretty much the perfect time to to let him play on and see if he could build on that.
Falcao had produced nothing in the game apart from that great touch which United's legend John Oshea had seen it fit to foolishly clatter him inside the box. Once he was off the pitch United played better with Rooney providing better movement and finishing skills then him.
Its time we stop cuddling our players. One touch is not enough to keep your first team place.
this is my fear... that he gets that opportunity.
I so hope we start Mata in the hole and Rooney upfront for those games.
I did say he was crap and I said nothing about him starting any more games. But we do pay him plenty of money so might as well try to get anything we can out of him for the rest of the season.
We paid 6m for a one year loan. Its up to him to prove that he deserve a permanent deal. Falcao provide no resale value, he's on a high salary and he's at the wrong end of his career. He's brought in as a quick fix. If he can't provide that then we might as well give game time to OUR younger talent such as Wilson.
Shearer is bang on in motd. We should go after him as a striker coach.
Yep, he's going to give up on a €200k a week job and pursue a career in a €10k a month job.
I don't know what you're talking about anymore. I agree Falcao has been shite and there's no way we should be signing him this summer. But, we do have him on loan until the end of the season. Him doing well, is still in our best interests for now. I don't see how taking him off for Fellaini yesterday did him any good at all. Why not keep him on and see if he bags a couple of goals and gets his confidence back? I'm not seeing any downsides here...
I don't think you are wrong in your posts, but will he be dropped for the next game for Rooney or Wilson? If not, then it would have been more prudent to have kept him on to build his confidence. May be he would have scored a goal or two with them being down to 10 men.
I have read your posts, you have been watching football for a long time, won't you say that confidence and goals are the most important for a striker? Sometimes you score one after a drought and then go on to score 5 or 6 in the following games. It has happened with Rooney a lot times.
He is currently one of the worst strikers in the league easily which is crazy when you think about his past achievements.
You now this could very well happen. An under performing South American player who pops up to make the scousers cry. That has never happened before.
As said, Falcao is a one year loan deal and the year is nearly over. He hasn't provided us with the performances needed to convince us spending 45m on him so he's as good as gone. Why waste our time flogging this dead horse? We might as well give game time to someone whose here for good and would benefit from having some first team experience (ex Wilson).
His substitution allowed Rooney to play upfront which gave United's forwardline some composure and credibility. Its too early to say if that may have sorted our forward line problems. Sunderland were after all with 10 men at that point. Nevertheless I hope that Rooney's performance upfront gave LVG some food for thought. We do have a quality striker if we need him
There is a correlation between confidence and goals however time is running out. Falcao one year contract is close to its end and I believe that both LVG and himself had made their minds up. At 28 Falcao provide no resale value, he hasnt justified his stay and looks set to leave. We might as well give the game time to someone else whose here to stay and whose future is directly tied to our fortune.
Honestly I cant care less of Falcao to be honest. What I care about is that we get to at least the 4th place. We've got more chance of achieving that if we play strikers whose got plenty of experience in scoring goals for us (ie Rooney) and with an actual midfielder in midfield.
LVG should also think about himself and be more ruthless. He doesn't have the luxury to play an off form striker that may, one day, return to his former glory. FFS if doesn't get United to the top 4 then no amount of philosophy and brilliant CV will save him from the sack.
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On form, Falcao/Rooney should not be being picked over Rooney/Mata. Not in a million. We really lack both Mata's creativity and Rooney's better goalscoring at the moment.
Again, I cannot disagree with the post. If it was upto me, I would have sent him back in January with a best wishes card and a thank you note each for Monaco and Mendes.
That is not the debate though, right? He is here, we are in a tough fight in the league and the manager has been picking him. To take him off at that point was not the right decision, imo. And I guess, that is what the other poster is debating with you.
Why not?
a- He contributing very little to the game apart from causing unnecessary nervousness to United's legend (tm) John OShea. I believe that such legend (tm) wouldnt clatter Falcao in the box 2-3 times in a row wouldn't he?
b- Once we got the penalty, we needed to secure the lead, Fellaini and Rooney cover more inches of pitch then Falcao does.
He has the attributes, but for some reason his timing is completely off, he is reactive instead of being proactive. Most of the time he makes the run that he should have made 3 seconds earlier and most of the time, he is very close.
Edit: The other thing that tells me that it's only in his head, is the fact that he refuses to use his left foot to shot, he has a great left foot but with us he always try to put the ball on the right foot.
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He did show a glimpse of his class with the two touches that led to the winning of that penalty, but no-one can argue those moments have been too few and far between. Unless he dramatically improves his productivity in the upcoming games, there's no way the club can entertain paying a huge fee for him.
It really is a shame how much serious injuries can have on players, affecting their physical or mental capacities (sometimes both). Falcao has demonstrably lost a yard of pace, which in turn seems to had a telling impact on his confidence. There's no way the Falcao at Porto or Atletico would be missing the types of chances that we've seen him regularly botch at United. I feel for him as you can see that he's trying his utmost to make it work at United, but his best years appear to be well and truly past him.
It really is a shame how much serious injuries can have on players, affecting their physical or mental capacities (sometimes both). Falcao has demonstrably lost a yard of pace, which in turn seems to had a telling impact on his confidence. There's no way the Falcao at Porto or Atletico would be missing the types of chances that we've seen him regularly botch at United. I feel for him as you can see that he's trying his utmost to make it work at United, but his best years appear to be well and truly past him.
The sub was probably already decided and Fellaini was getting ready to come on just before Falcao was brought down, I think.
Can't agree with you mate. When Falcao is shown the ball in the area he can be deadly and Saturday showed it. As soon as he gets the chance defenders literally try to smother him. Our problem has been supplying him in areas beyond the half way line. Once LVG gets the supply system going Falcao and the other strikers will prove a handful
As to taking him off after penalty, I thought it was a strange decision. He made the breakthrough that no United player had up to that point. He had become untouchable after the penalty, as Sunderland defenders would have been cautious of closing in on him. That might have increased our chances.
I thought plan B failed again with Fellaini. He really didn't make the mark he has in other games. Pumping the high balls didn't alter things. Once we went back to feet and Valencia opened up the flank the second goal came. The kind that Falcao was bought to score.
I think you're overestimating Falcao's performance to be honest. He passed much of the game inside Wes Brown pockets and only became dangerous when the great United's legend John OShea 'defended' against him. You do have a point that we are struggling in creating chances. Nevertheless when a striker is playing in a 2 men forward line formation then he is expected to contribute greatly to the team. Both Falcao and RVP had been disappointing in terms of movement and creativity.
Ultimately a striker is judged by his goals and Falcao hasn't scored enough. There's nothing to justify his role in the team
I wouldn't even be giving him too much credit for the penalty tbh. I would have been far more impressed if he'd shown the strength and balance to convert the chance he created for himself. It was a nice (but by no means amazing) touch and he still ended up going down like a sack of shit under the merest hint of contact from the defender, then scuffing his shot wide. All of which has been a persistent theme for him this season.
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Feeling sorry for him is difficult considering what he earns and the job he has but, in context, you have to have a little sympathy for him (Unless your name is successful). He seems a genuinely nice bloke who has had his career decimated by two injuries. He should be in his prime knocking the goals in and earning his final payday but the reality is that he's probably going to find it pretty tough to convince anyone to pick up the tab for him.
There's no way in hell anyone is going to pay what Monaco want and pay him what he expects or at least would be earning without those injuries. It could be a little embarrassing for him this summer if nobody comes forward.
There's no way in hell anyone is going to pay what Monaco want and pay him what he expects or at least would be earning without those injuries. It could be a little embarrassing for him this summer if nobody comes forward.
Guilty by name association, unfortunately for you.
No, that's just silly. It was an excellent touch, and there was no way he could've done any better to get to the ball. He didn't go down like a sack of shit under the merest hint of contact from the defender', he was completely stopped and was pretty much shoved. Like everyone I thought he was overall poor but saying that the peno he won was anything else than a showing of very good ability is stupid.
Watch the replay. O'Shea put a hand on his shoulder. Brown didn't even touch him. He was leaning back and went down far too easily.
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