I was thinking more of the two goals from two chances he got In the first game against Southampton. Look falcao wasn't good enough today pure and simple, can't defend him just move on to the next game.
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I was thinking more of the two goals from two chances he got In the first game against Southampton. Look falcao wasn't good enough today pure and simple, can't defend him just move on to the next game.
Remember the chance RVP had agains Spurs, took the ball down on the 6 yard line with no one around him?
Well you said he can be unlucky three times. That's your fault not mine, you shouldn't have said it in your post
For him to be ahead of Caulker because he outpaced him, Wilson would also have to have ran even quicker, now you are blaming Wilson for not running quick enough!
So when de Gea makes a great save it's because of shit finishing? The header he put across goal was genuinely a quality save. The Caulker touch did take it off his stride too. The chance I was annoyed about was the first half when Mata put him in. Thought he should have done better. Good movement, just isn't finishing them off which is frustrating.
Don't let facts get in the way of some customary Falcao bashing.
Pardon me for insulting Caulker, i'm sure he'll find it to forgive me.
Apologies for feeling a 40-50mill striker earning 340k a week, 6mill off us since September should be able to take 1/4 chances, 2 being sitters, 1 being Wilsons fault and 1 being an act of divine intervention that no striker in the world would have done better with.
Okay Empire - I'm the one judging him harshly.
People know we are not going to sign him so some people are just trying to justify it, to themselves more than others.
Hang on, I only criticised you for blaming him for missing the one where Caulker got a touch on it and you are the one who said he can be unlucky three times, I'm just telling you what you said.
I never mentioned anything about the other chances.
I don't see your point, every striker misses chances we could argue all day about goals and misses but point is when you are on the pitch to score goals, get chances and fluff them all it's not good enough. I would have backed RVP to put one away and I don't see anything wrong with that.
Well you said he can be unlucky three times. That's your fault not mine, you shouldn't have said it in your post
For him to be ahead of Caulker because he outpaced him, Wilson would also have to have ran even quicker, now you are blaming Wilson for not running quick enough!
My blame lies squarely with one person Empire.
I don't think he played awfully, any other day he'll score 1/2, I like him a lot and in a different United team he would be unreal.
I have serious reservations about his fitness and pace after the OP and even if he is totally fit I don't see how we can fit 3 almost identical strikers in a slow team already. I've accepted that Empire.
Also can people stop saying he 'missed'? Every shot he took today was on target.
Depends on what way you look at it I suppose.
Allround play was good. Finishing was crap.
Well i'm glad we're still arguing about things that matter.
I'll go on being right about Falcao, and you go on being right about a hyperbolic sentence not massively relevant to my argument.
Justify it?
Its pretty obvious, based on his performances and price, that we shouldn't sign him. Why would we have to justify something that is so obvious?
I only questioned you on that one chance, in trying to defend yourself you are now talking about other things, I'm just saying for you to blame him when Caulker got an excellent touch is harsh.
It really is as simple as this.
So do you think he had a good game?
Having a good season?
Worth 40mill and 340k a week?
Fits with RVP and Rooney (both actually contracted to us and proven in prem)
Is fully recovered from the knee surgery and not completely lacking in pace?
Suited to premier league?
Which ones in particular? You've been against him since day one so on you go
no because I questioned you saying that one chance with Caulker was Falcao's fault, that was the discussion, you are now bringing up his fitness to blame him for missing the chance
no because I questioned you saying that one chance with Caulker was Falcao's fault, that was the discussion, you are now bringing up his fitness to blame him for missing the chance
You're a tiresome person.
So 14 games in a shit team (and a lot of those games were as a sub or subbed) is enough time to judge him?, especially coming back from pretty much a whole season out injured?
People will regret it when he goes to Chelsea etc and scores 30 goals a season.
I've seen comparisons with Tevez. He's very striking to the Argentine from his United days. Wastes too many chances. I think he deserves to be ahead of RvP on general play but he looks a bundle of nerves still in the final third.
Well which ones? Surely not counting the one that Caulker touched away from him?I must have an agenda eh?
feck me.
He's not getting in that Chelsea team ahead of Costa, so good luck with that one.
no because I questioned you saying that one chance with Caulker was Falcao's fault, that was the discussion, you are now bringing up his fitness to blame him for missing the chance
Also the insinuation was that we judge him too harshly.
All my points are aimed at explaining why we should judge him higher/why people aren't doing that (fanbois)
So carry on ignoring all that.
Strikers miss chances. It happens. Every striker misses chances and the fact that he only had two solid chances today against one of the worse defenses in the league is worrying. You starve your striker of service for long spells and that will affect how they take the limited chances they get. A striker who has trust and confidence in his midfield will be relaxed when a chance comes their way because they know that even if they miss it they will still have mutiple opportunities to rectify that. The likes of Falcao and Van Persie get a good chance in the game knowing that this could be the best they'll get in 90 minutes. They're more likely to snatch at chances, overthink and be under pressure instead of relaxed.
That's laughable thinking I made a poor point after what you said. Falcao was bad today get over it and move on.
The first two. You know, the ones where he hit them straight at the keeper. The first one was shocking in all honesty.
The header then? Harsh as anything. The header was decent and Green made a really good save. First half I agree, good movement and a poor finish.
It would have been shocking had he kicked it wide or over
The header was poor, for a player of his supposed ability in the air. It was a pretty routine save in all honesty.
I want more games before I can judge, the same is true of Angel di Maria, he needs to be playing 90 minutes consistently before I judge him and this is true of all players regardless of their value.
He could have scored two goals today and then hardly scored for the next 8, even RVP is only on 8 in 17, he could have scored today and then had a record like RVP's if played consistently.
I'm glad he got into some good positions and got involved in the build up play, if he can consistently do this then great providing he scores at about 6 or 7 in 10, if he keeps getting in those positions it is possible.
If he is replaced by RVP because he recovers from his injury that's fine too, if he doesn't get consistent game time then it's up to Louis to make the decision based on his training performances.
Until I see him play consistently I can't form an opinion on what he is capable of, also I highly doubt he is on 340k per week.
Falcao scored a header against villa, he missed one today, everything doesn't always have the same outcome. I really dont see what you are getting at so well do to you.
When you're 6 yards out, with the whole goal to aim at, and you just whack it at the keeper, thats shocking in my book.
If that was Welbeck, or Hernandez, or Rooney...absolute meltdown.
Seems like 1 year to prove himself was too much pressure. I cried watching those chances fluffed.
I find that another loan might be good for all parties?
I find that another loan might be good for all parties?
Schevchenko was arguably the best striker in the world at his peak. I take it you don't mean what you said as a compliment though.
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