But did he dribble past 4 players before scoring though?
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But did he dribble past 4 players before scoring though?
Exactly, Costas been nursing an injury whilst scoring 12 EPL goals. I just think hes lost that world class edge now, but still has the ability to be a good striker.
Those goals werent sharp enough.
Your actually missing my point, but anyway its like I said in the RVP thread you can't say a player has lost world class edge after watching him play 90 minutes all of twice, its just a bit silly
Did you make the same snap judgement on Benteke when he came back from injury? Because I tell you now, he looked a hell of a lot worse. In fact, I'd go as far to say that, that was the first game Benteke looked anywhere near his old self. Have some patience, he'll come good.
Was Costa out for six months with a serious injury? Before we signed him he had only played one pre-season game I think and was clearly not fully fit. He picked up a few other injuries along the way so I understand why Falcao hasn't been at his best for us, he's only made two starts though and I'm fully confident he will score a lot for us this season. It's hard to say yet if he's lost the 'world class edge' He just needs to stay fit, start games and we'll see how good he still is.
He said that even before the season started so.. I guess he wont change his mind even though Falcao hasnt played a lot.
Well no, since if anything it has become more apparent.
No it hasnt. Its ridiculous to write a player off so quickly.
Well during the mass love in session I warned that he may not be the same player and his injury may be a problem, do you not agree what I said has been true? I didnt say hes not worlds class anymore because he just turned poor.
No. As I said its ridiculous to clam he's not wc anymore when he hasnt been playing a lot this season. Give him a run of games and will see. As I remember you claimed he's not wc anymore even though he just came back from a long injury and didnt even kick a ball for us.
And then I thought that Ekeke cannot be topped on this thread.
While I know that as a reply will come the inevitable 'I watch the game with my eyes' (like the subjective opinions of heavily driven agenda people are always exact), I'll post his stats from today:
1 Goal
100% shoot accuracy in goal
4 key passes
93% passing accuracy.
And while Van Persie was busy slowing the game every fecking time he got the ball, until all Aston Villa players, their mum's, cousins and dogs went near him, before he passed the ball sideways to Valencia; Mata was on Liam Miller's/Cleverley invisible mode and Wilson was running for the sake of it (or something like that) Falcao scored the goal (which gave us one point), linked well and didn't lose the ball often. But yeah, he was pants today.
Yeah.. But you know.. His game wasnt sharp enough and quick enough you know.. And stuff.
Not comparable at all. An ACL repair is huge challenge to return from. Can take a year to get back to their best. Remains to be seen if Falcao has lost his edge permanently but he's already shown he can do it once. It's definitely possible he can do it again.
The guy is coming back from an injury that requires 9-12months for a full recovery. He scored today and played 90 minutes. How anyone can divine anything about a permanent drop in form based on his play over the past 3 months is beyond me, as he was still in recovery mode and not getting a run of games.
I'm looking forward to seeing him play as a first team member now that he's recovered. It'll take some games to integrate him into with the flow of play. But at least he's now available to start.
I'm looking forward to seeing him play as a first team member now that he's recovered. It'll take some games to integrate him into with the flow of play. But at least he's now available to start.
@Sam talking smack again. Quite clear he's had an agenda against Falcao for a while.
Van Persie was stretching Villa, which is the reason he's been prefered all season. Its something Falcao needs to learn to do as it benefits the team and its what you need from your leading striker
And he was also slowing our game every time the ball went near him. Not to mention his refusal to pass the ball at-least twice when Falcao was in far better position (actually in one of those situation would have been in one on one with the keeper) and generally keeping the ball without doing anything with it until he got rounded by three Villa players and so was forced to pass it to Valencia.
I was glad he was taken off (though would have preferred Adnan instead of Wilson) because he was being extremely selfish and slowing every attack.
Also, the reason he has been preferred all season is a bit of nonsense considering that Falcao has pretty much started every game he was fit to play from the start.
The only 'agenda' I have is that, as of yet, he's done nothing remotely close to justifying a £43 million transfer at the end of the season.
I'd absolutely love it if that was to change though, obviously.
Has anyone else got the feeling Falcao was ignored in the first half. He made himself avaible for the pass yet Rooney, Fletcher, Val played sideway passing among themselves.
Except for the 5 sub appearances that make up more than his starts?
Rooney tends to do this often, has had the same with RVP in the past.
They are rightfully jealous, they hear his song even when he is not here, and of course there is the hair and the watch.
RVP found him several times, Rooney, like Mata, preferred to pass the ball out wide and Fletcher was just useless in general out there. I don't think he was ignored, most players just made poor decisions in general.
This. With the caveat that he also scored a ghost hat trick during this rehabilitation phase for Colombia in a friendly in Miami. 2 goals were stolen from him on the line.
Falcao is a monster and if we can get him back to the form he showed before, where he was comfortably the 3rd best player on the planet, then we'll all be glad for it. Enjoy the ride, cheer the goals and have patience.
Matches when he wasn't fit for 90 minutes.
Yeah but how much has he played? Not much did he.
If he will have a run of games and will not come out good then surely we probably wont buy him. But we cannot judge him right now on the amount of games he played.
There were 24 different pass combinations registering more passes before Falcao features in the list. Carrick was the man that passed to him most btw, 6 times.
Falcao to Rooney is 35th on the list - 6 times.
Rooney to Falcao is 37th - 5 times.
RVP to Falcao was 3 times.
Mata to Falcao, once.
I thought RVP had passed him the ball more often than that, but then again you have to see it in relation to how often RVP actually had the ball, which wasn't that often. Carrick in general seemed to stabilize our midfield and make us more of a threat, so I'm not surprised there.
Either way, this doesn't prove that he was ignored rather than players deeming other options better in their opinions.
Yeah, for what it's worth I'm not arguing against you. I thought Falcao was excellent today personally. I'm just providing the stats.
But was fit to play, hence doing so
Are you saying he's been fit to play 4 times all season? If so he can retire now
I'm just surprised to see how little RVP passed to him. I thought the two had decent chemistry together given that it was their first game in a while, but it seems like the eye test fooled me.
He hasn't been fit to start more games than he has started. By fit, I mean on Van Gaal's scale of fit, which seems to be way higher than other coaches.
He has also had last year a career threatening injury and now was a month off because of an another injury. Now that he is feet, we'll see how he do. I expect a lot of people to eat their words.
Gets a goal and people still aren't happy.
The Welbeck fan brigade are terrible.
The Welbeck fan brigade are terrible.
Glad he got a goal today, needs to hit a run soon though.
Aye. Those stats prove differently but they don't give the entire context. Passes to other players may have been the better choices, other players in better space etc, at times when RVP had the ball there could have been defenders in the way making the route to Falcao an improbable pass choice etc etc etc.
Backs up the general tone that we simply failed to find our striker nearly enough though. Which we can all agree was the main problem today. Nothing came from the central midfield area at all. Was a poor showing from Rooney and Mata in general but that's for another thread.
He is pointing his finger at you @Sam, that's for the doubters.
Look at hime how can anyone not like hime, wallah I have a man crush
Look at hime how can anyone not like hime, wallah I have a man crush
He is pointing his finger at you @Sam, that's for the doubters.
Look at hime how can anyone not like hime, wallah I have a man crush
Look at that celebration. Its clear he celebrates differently, no like he used to when he was world class. His celebration looks rusty.
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