R&b

SecondFig said:
Not really sure if I'd describe The Walrus of Love as R&B... he was unique, and his style, while hugely influential on what became R&B was more of a combination of soul, funk and disco... in my opinion at least
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That's fair enough - and I guess Barry's not exactly the latest of R&B. These feckers are selling albums. To who ? Who is buying this shit ? Who is getting all loved up and sexy to this bullshit ?

The only time I've ever enjoyed R&B was once, at a party when I was smoked off my brains and would have danced to the sound of the grass growing on the front lawn.
 
The Caveman said:
Hold on, is stuff like Marvin Gaye and Sam Cooke RnB now? I thought it was soul..
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Beats me. Maybe the reason why it's hard for people like you and I to classify is because of the shit that's been churched out since the early 90s

It's like flinging shit on a clean window. Eventually you can't tell the forest from the trees (hoping I used the right idiom there)
 
Kinky Melinky said:
Beats me. Maybe the reason why it's hard for people like you and I to classify is because of the shit that's been churched out since the early 90s

It's like flinging shit on a clean window. Eventually you can't tell the forest from the trees (hoping I used the right idiom there)
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:lol::lol: Does that make any kind of sense?

If Marvin Gaye, Sam Cooke and Otis Redding are RnB then it's amazing. If it's R Kelly and Boyz 2 Men then not so much..
 
Didn't see this thread earlier

The Contemporary RnB heard on most urban stations today is utter bullshit. I hate to generalize a music genre, because there are a few talented artists out there, but mostly it's the same formula, same recipe I hear hit after hit. And in all the songs, it's the same fecking formula, synthesizer pattern, drums, the initial croning, interlude, then modulation to a higher key, and then loop. he saddest part is it is eagerly swallowed by the same audience who can't appreciate good music for theirselves and have to wait for the opinion of the radio DJ.

Here are some lyrics from Trey Songs' "I invented sex"

Girl let me get u to the crib (let me get u to the crib)
Upstairs to the bed (upstairs to the bed)
Girl you gonna think (x4)
Girl when I pull back them sheets
And you climb on top of me
Girl you gonna think (x4)
You gonna think I invented sex (x3)

1. Repetitive lyrics? Check.
2. Bland instrumentals/music? Check.
3. Mandatory guest appearance from established rapper? Check.
4. Overused subject matter? Check.

I'm young, I wasn't around in the era of the Stevie Wonders and Marvin Gayes, but I've heard their music, and they touched diverse issues, had profound bass lines and guitar licks, and most artists went solo on their records, not relying on superior artists to sell records. The political scene, relationships, afrocentricity, inequalities, were all sung on. One would think Usher after his successful career to date would be concentrating on making classics that could be compared with 'Innervisions', 'Deep in my Soul', 'What's going on", etc. No, he's in songs with Nicki fecking Minaj singing about threesomes. feck off.

And on D'Angelo, his 2 albums are special, especially "Voodoo". It's a shame to see how har he has fallen in his personal life since then, but the work he put into Voodoo shows in every song. Urban Hang Suite by Maxwell is a good call also.
 
I think a lot of musicologists would say that there is no such thing as R&B in mainstream music today, and that the music which calls itself 'R&B' is simply hijacking the moniker for inertial marketing purposes.

On a related note, Blues also makes use of repetitive lyrics, licks, and rigid adherence to structure. Blues = shit?
 
adexkola said:
Didn't see this thread earlier

The Contemporary RnB heard on most urban stations today is utter bullshit. I hate to generalize a music genre, because there are a few talented artists out there, but mostly it's the same formula, same recipe I hear hit after hit. And in all the songs, it's the same fecking formula, synthesizer pattern, drums, the initial croning, interlude, then modulation to a higher key, and then loop. he saddest part is it is eagerly swallowed by the same audience who can't appreciate good music for theirselves and have to wait for the opinion of the radio DJ.

Here are some lyrics from Trey Songs' "I invented sex"

Girl let me get u to the crib (let me get u to the crib)
Upstairs to the bed (upstairs to the bed)
Girl you gonna think (x4)
Girl when I pull back them sheets
And you climb on top of me
Girl you gonna think (x4)
You gonna think I invented sex (x3)

1. Repetitive lyrics? Check.
2. Bland instrumentals/music? Check.
3. Mandatory guest appearance from established rapper? Check.
4. Overused subject matter? Check.

I'm young, I wasn't around in the era of the Stevie Wonders and Marvin Gayes, but I've heard their music, and they touched diverse issues, had profound bass lines and guitar licks, and most artists went solo on their records, not relying on superior artists to sell records. The political scene, relationships, afrocentricity, inequalities, were all sung on. One would think Usher after his successful career to date would be concentrating on making classics that could be compared with 'Innervisions', 'Deep in my Soul', 'What's going on", etc. No, he's in songs with Nicki fecking Minaj singing about threesomes. feck off.

And on D'Angelo, his 2 albums are special, especially "Voodoo". It's a shame to see how har he has fallen in his personal life since then, but the work he put into Voodoo shows in every song. Urban Hang Suite by Maxwell is a good call also.
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I love that song
 
I used to listen to a lot of old R&B, there were some really good, quality singers out there: Anita Baker, Regina Belle, Oleta Adams, Keith Washington, Johnny Gill, Chante Moore, Lisa Fischer, etc.

I think this was end of 80s, beginning of 90s.

Today's R&B, pop, hip-hop, whatever, it's all a load of shit, imo.
 
The Caveman said:
Hold on, is stuff like Marvin Gaye and Sam Cooke RnB now? I thought it was soul..
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Soul was incorporated into R&B since R&B was originally pretty much a catch all for all "black" music rather than blues alone in the 50's and 60's, the golden age of R&B. It even incorporated disco as well as soul in the 70's.

Contemporary R&B, which is what Kinky is talking about, is universally dire and it's proponents should have been strangled at birth.
 
Kinky Melinky said:
I hate it. There you have it. I fecking hate every aspect of it. I hate the boring rhythms, I hate the instruments they use, I hate the sense of self indulgence involved in the music, I hate how there are often too many voices involved in a song, I hate how the vocal acrobats are over-done (yeah we know you can fecking sing you GIMP!) I hate how every song seems to have the same feel to it and most of all..........I hate the lyrics.

How How HOW can people write such absolute unadulterated bollox about other human beings. It's lies ! 99% of R&B lyrics are so literal. It makes me want to puke. It's filled to the brim with more cheese than you'd expect to find on rimaldo and iSparky's knobs combined.

Sorry in advance to anyone on here who is an R&B fanatic. I just do not get what you see in it.

I'm talking about R&B over the past 20 years. I don't know too much about 70's & 80's R&B. It may well have been better.
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Totallly totally totally agree

It's shit, utter fecking shit and anyone that likes it should be stabbed in the eye

R&B, is that rythm n blues???

It doesn't have rythm and it doesn't have blues

should be called F&S
 
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