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Sony set to drop the price $100.

SAN FRANCISCO, California (Reuters) -- Sony has cut the price of the PlayStation 3 by $100, or 17 percent, in the United States, a move that should boost the video game console's lackluster sales.


Starting Monday, the current PS3 60 gigabyte model will cost $499 -- a $100 price drop.

The PlayStation 3, which includes a 60-gigabyte hard drive and a Blu-ray high-definition DVD player, will now cost $500, or $20 more than the most expensive version of Microsoft's Xbox 360.

The PS3 still costs twice that of Nintendo's Wii console, whose $250 price and motion-sensing controller have made it a best-seller despite its lack of cutting-edge graphics and hard disk.

"Our initial expectation is that sales should double at a minimum," Jack Tretton, chief executive of Sony Computer Entertainment America, said in an interview.

"We've gotten our production issues behind us on the PlayStation 3, reaching a position to pass on the savings to consumers, and our attitude is the sooner the better."

The price drop Monday was widely anticipated by industry analysts despite Sony President Ryoji Chubachi telling Reuters last week that the company had no immediate plans for one.

Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter said Sony's price reduction would not double sales but may boost them by 50 percent to about 120,000 units a month.

"The greater significance is that Sony is signaling to the market that we're coming down the cost curve pretty fast in making this thing. It's a pretty consumer-friendly move," Pachter said.

Xbox 360 glitch may cost Microsoft $1 billion
Sony's move comes two days before the start of the video game industry's annual E3 trade show in Santa Monica, California, where some expect Microsoft to respond with its first price cuts on the Xbox 360.

Nintendo, whose Wii is selling so well that it is still hard to find in stores eight months after its launch, is not expected to budge on pricing.

The Xbox 360 and Wii have outsold the PS3 by several times in the crucial U.S. market, leaving Sony, whose PlayStation 2 dominated the last console generation, in the unfamiliar position of playing catch up.

Sony is counting on the price cut to help it significantly grow sales of the PS3 ahead of the crucial holiday shopping season that accounts for most of the annual sales of highly profitable gaming software.

Sony is also introducing a new version of the PS3 featuring an 80-gigabyte hard drive and a copy of "Motorstorm," an off-road racing game that has already sold a million copies.

The new model will sell for $600 and is aimed at gamers who expect to download a lot of games and other content from Sony's burgeoning online network.

Sony also hopes the PS3 will win some converts following Microsoft's admission last week that the failure rate of its Xbox 360 console had been unacceptably high, forcing it to book $1 billion in repair costs.

"We're especially proud of the fact that the PlayStation 3 has the lowest failure rate of any PlayStation product. It's absolutely the gold standard," Tretton said.

"The quality of the product and long-term viability is what ultimately wins."
 
£250 in the US

£425 in the UK

Why?
 
pert said:
£250 in the US

£425 in the UK

Why?
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That's the price difference? Damn that sucks. Maybe because of the NTSC vs PAL, or the fact that they're not selling as good in the US as in the UK?
 
the price difference between there and here is huge though on most electrical goods and tbh its a fecking disgrace
 
Yeah it is a bitch, but it works...in the sense that our demand is greater for the product than Americas.

For e.g. for the exact same medicine, the company will charge cheaper prices in Africa than here. This is because the company will charge what it thinks each country can afford to maximise its profit.
 
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The new 80GB model coupled with Motorstorm that is going for $599
 
MancFanFromManc said:
I havent bought a console since Grand Turismo talked me into a PS ONE

Played a WII yesterday though and loved it. Playing Tennis and 10 pin was like a work out !
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This isn't just a console, it's not simply games what it is about. They could have stuck a DVD player on it like MS did with the XBox180, but they didn't did they? It even cost them a year in not doing so. It's brilliant hardware, wonderfully engineered, and is packed full of home entertainment technology of the very highest calibre.

People moan about the price. To get an XBox180 to get anywhere near the spec of the PS3 with add-ons etc. you would actually end up spending more.

Why do people criticise a company for putting a decent product together? If you can't afford a Aston Martin, feck off and buy your BMW, but don't complain about the price of the Aston. You get what you pay for.
 
WeasteDevil said:
This isn't just a console, it's not simply games what it is about. They could have stuck a DVD player on it like MS did with the XBox180, but they didn't did they? It even cost them a year in not doing so. It's brilliant hardware, wonderfully engineered, and is packed full of home entertainment technology of the very highest calibre.

People moan about the price. To get an XBox180 to get anywhere near the spec of the PS3 with add-ons etc. you would actually end up spending more.

Why do people criticise a company for putting a decent product together? If you can't afford a Aston Martin, feck off and buy your BMW, but don't complain about the price of the Aston. You get what you pay for.
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Maybe because people only want a fecking game console and not Blu ray player or what all shit.
 
WeasteDevil said:
This isn't just a console, it's not simply games what it is about. They could have stuck a DVD player on it like MS did with the XBox180, but they didn't did they? It even cost them a year in not doing so. It's brilliant hardware, wonderfully engineered, and is packed full of home entertainment technology of the very highest calibre.

People moan about the price. To get an XBox180 to get anywhere near the spec of the PS3 with add-ons etc. you would actually end up spending more.

Why do people criticise a company for putting a decent product together? If you can't afford a Aston Martin, feck off and buy your BMW, but don't complain about the price of the Aston. You get what you pay for.
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At the end of the day though Weaste, I paid for a PS3 and a 360. I can say from experience which console I prefer, it's the 360 by far.

Sony were late with their product, and aside from the Blu-Ray player it hardly touches the 360...
 
Hectic said:
At the end of the day though Weaste, I paid for a PS3 and a 360. I can say from experience which console I prefer, it's the 360 by far.

Sony were late with their product, and aside from the Blu-Ray player it hardly touches the 360...
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That's a stupid thing to say to be quite frank. Why do you prefer the XBox? Because it has better software? That doesn't say which console is better than the other, it simply says that one currently has better software than the other. Come back to me in a year and tell me what you think when your XBox is in the bin or being used as a doorstop.

The PS3, as I've always said shits all over the XBox technically, all it needs is the software, and it will come.
 
My point Weaste, what good is a car without wheels?

The PS3 can be technically better all it likes, however with a shit line-up of games, especially for the upcoming year, what's the point? I didn't buy my PS3 exclusively for the Blu-Ray. I brought it because it was meant to have fantastic graphics and games.

I understand why there is no difference to the 360 now, because it takes about a year to fully work with the software etc, exactly like the 360 did. However, I have seen the line-ups, I have seen all the loses of exclusives, and most of the games will be ported across from the 360 anyway so there will be no graphical improvement. Their exclusives are shit.

The 360 is the better console because it has the better games, what point is there in a console if it can't produce good enough games? It can be technically superior 10x over, but without the decent games it's shit.
 
Hectic said:
My point Weaste, what good is a car without wheels?

The PS3 can be technically better all it likes, however with a shit line-up of games, especially for the upcoming year, what's the point? I didn't buy my PS3 exclusively for the Blu-Ray. I brought it because it was meant to have fantastic graphics and games.

I understand why there is no difference to the 360 now, because it takes about a year to fully work with the software etc, exactly like the 360 did. However, I have seen the line-ups, I have seen all the loses of exclusives, and most of the games will be ported across from the 360 anyway so there will be no graphical improvement. Their exclusives are shit.

The 360 is the better console because it has the better games, what point is there in a console if it can't produce good enough games? It can be technically superior 10x over, but without the decent games it's shit.
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I'm not talking about the games lineup, and couldn't care less, not interested. I'm talking from the level of technology.

However, as for games lineups, if it wasn't for Halo, you would not have an XBox360, it would not exist, Microsoft would have fecked off out of it already. That's all it needs, one title, not masses of them. 80% of games have always been shit in any case going back to the ZX81 and VIC20. Sony seem to have enough killer-games about to come out to turn up the heat, that's all that is required. Do you think that they are daft? The likes of Killzone and Lair have been under development for ages to try and really get the power of the PS3 out there. Do you really think that they are going to be no better than an XBox game (at least visually - yes that's a huge pull) after all of these years of development? As I said, cocks are about to come out amongst gamer people.
 
Weaste what is the point in arguing about whos got the better technology? we all agree the PS3 is a good peice of engineering. But, at the end of the day we're all gamers, and buy the consoles primarily for the games. At this point in time the 360 shits all over the PS3 for games. Maybe we can talk in a years time..

My brother had a 360 and sold it to fund a PS3. He has played 3 games on it and has now bought a 2nd hand 360 from his mate so that he can actually play a decent line up of games till Sony get their arse in gear.
 
golden_blunder said:
Weaste what is the point in arguing about whos got the better technology? we all agree the PS3 is a good peice of engineering. But, at the end of the day we're all gamers, and buy the consoles primarily for the games. At this point in time the 360 shits all over the PS3 for games. Maybe we can talk in a years time..

My brother had a 360 and sold it to fund a PS3. He has played 3 games on it and has now bought a 2nd hand 360 from his mate so that he can actually play a decent line up of games till Sony get their arse in gear.
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So you cannot talk about technology now? You trying to turn this into a forum for game mongoids?

All you XBox lot diss it, even to the point of calling it shit. This is not the case! How was the Amiga 500 when it first came out against the Atari ST? Shit in your terms, not in mine. Why? Because it was beautiful engineering, and beautiful engineering will always win in the end if the company engineering it isn't stupid. Sony are a lot of the time, they simply miss tricks - PSP, no embedded phone is an example. Are they totally thick at times?
 
Which is also why these PS3 threads should not be in the entertainment forum. It's a mini supercomputer that can do far more than play games.

You can play games on a PC, do PC topics get moved in here?

I can run Open-Office on a PS3 if I had one.
 
no, off course the console can do more.

But youre preaching to gamers here mate, not programmers or hardware nerds

how do gamers judge them? by games

and for the record i would move any PC games topics in here
 
golden_blunder said:
no, off course the console can do more.

But youre preaching to gamers here mate, not programmers or hardware nerds

how do gamers judge them? by games

and for the record i would move any PC games topics in here
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The topic isn't about a game is it?

It doesn't say, PS3 game prices drop does it?

And again, the PS3 is not a games console, it's just one thing it can be used for. Just like a PC.
 
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In August, scientists at Stanford University in California announced plans to distribute a program that could run on gamers' PS3s.

Sony's Cell chip
The cell processor was originally designed for Sony's PlayStation 3

The folding@home program would tap the cell's spare processing power to examine how the shape of proteins, critical to most biological functions, affect diseases such as Alzheimer's.

This distributed computing method uses each individual machine to process a small amount of data, with results fed back over the internet to a central machine where they can be viewed together.

The Stanford researchers say that 10,000 consoles running the program would give a performance equivalent to one petaflop. The team hopes eventually to enlist 100,000 machines.

Although a network of this size would in theory out-perform Roadrunner, the two systems would be used to solve different types of problem.
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That's entertainment!
 
First and foremost, it's a games console though.

And everyone but yourself has talked about it in the gaming context, not from a programming view.
 
Hectic said:
First and foremost, it's a games console though.

And everyone but yourself has talked about it in the gaming context, not from a programming view.
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I have always defined it as a home media hub!

It's only you gamers that refuse to accept that it cannot be used for anything other than "entertainment" and was never designed to be anything other than a games box. It was designed not to be simply a games box from the off.

Do you think Sony couldn't simply have used the same processor in the XBox? No, they went and designed a new processor for this thing, that will probably end up in every consumer device you will ever own. Never mind the world's most powerful supercomputers.
 
WeasteDevil said:
I have always defined it as a home media hub!

It's only you gamers that refuse to accept that it cannot be used for anything other than "entertainment" and was never designed to be anything other than a games box. It was designed not to be simply a games box from the off.

Do you think Sony couldn't simply have used the same processor in the XBox? No, they went and designed a new processor for this thing, that will probably end up in every consumer device you will ever own. Never mind the world's most powerful supercomputers.
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No Weaste.

In a discussion about the better console etc. I can only say through experience, and having played both I can see which one I prefer. In terms of what else it is capable of, both are brilliant.

I, However, like most of the others on here talk about the consoles on here through a gaming perspective because that's what we primarily use it for. You telling us the software etc is so much superior doesn't change anything because we are talking about the games. That is what matters to us most.

I can accept that both consoles do more then just 'play games' that is why I like the 360 because it can do much other stuff. However, the gaming side of it is the most important part. And for the record, I have never said 'it is only a gaming box' I have always appreciated both consoles other uses.
 
Hectic said:
No Weaste.

In a discussion about the better console etc. I can only say through experience, and having played both I can see which one I prefer. In terms of what else it is capable of, both are brilliant.

I, However, like most of the others on here talk about the consoles on here through a gaming perspective because that's what we primarily use it for. You telling us the software etc is so much superior doesn't change anything because we are talking about the games. That is what matters to us most.

I can accept that both consoles do more then just 'play games' that is why I like the 360 because it can do much other stuff. However, the gaming side of it is the most important part. And for the record, I have never said 'it is only a gaming box' I have always appreciated both consoles other uses.
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What else can you do with a XBox exactly? An XBox was designed to be a games console, nothing more. Otherwise it would be running Windows Vista by now.

The PS3 was designed as the launch vehicle for a processor that will dominate consumer and professional electronics for years to come. Look at it this way. Sony needed to produce a new console, that is not in doubt, but they could have done that far more cheaply and far quicker than they did. Instead, they decided to go and produce a radically new processor to stick in it. Then got Toshiba and IBM to put shit loads of their cash into the project whilst they were at it. In fact, it's going to become the mainstay of IBM's serious products for at least the next ten years.

Here is where the problem lies - that you all look at the PS3 as something to play games on. It's a little supercomputer in a console box. Do you really think that in 2 years a Viao laptop will not have PS3 innards inside it? Of course it will. This is by far more about domination of electronics that it is about playing games. I repeat, almost 80% of all consumer electronics devices in a few years time will have a Cell in them.

This is a long term strategy from Sony, the software for the PS3 will come, but they do not need to rush it. Microsoft rushed it. It's all well and good having all that software (80% of which is probably crap as it as always been with games) but a little bit unfortunate when you have to put a billion dollar aside for machines that decide they are not going to work anymore. Also, what's all that bollocks with the "sidecar" hard disk? Typical Microsoft trying to lock you into their own proprietary standards to milk you. No HD-DVD drive as standard, no wireless as standard, shitty little hard disk, etc. Money making, value-engineering that has backfired, and it serves them right.

I don't know about you, but I would prefer to buy a decent bit of kit that will in time will obviously prevail. I don't play games though.
 
WeasteDevil said:
The topic isn't about a game is it?

It doesn't say, PS3 game prices drop does it?

And again, the PS3 is not a games console, it's just one thing it can be used for. Just like a PC.
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my first post talked about the lack of games on the PS3 market at the moment - hence the price drop. They didnt have a big game along the lines of a Halo or something similar to kick off the sales. They have sold a lot but could and should have been a lot more.

my next post was in response to this:

WeasteDevil said:
I'm not talking about the games lineup, and couldn't care less, not interested. I'm talking from the level of technology.
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All i was pointing out was that youre preaching to the wrong people here. We can recognise the technology as being better which is your main point.

Our point is, we're gamer fans. We judge it at this point on games. That is how it is currently being marketed.
 
golden_blunder said:
my first post talked about the lack of games on the PS3 market at the moment - hence the price drop. They didnt have a big game along the lines of a Halo or something similar to kick off the sales. They have sold a lot but could and should have been a lot more.

my next post was in response to this:



All i was pointing out was that youre preaching to the wrong people here. We can recognise the technology as being better which is your main point.

Our point is, we're gamer fans. We judge it at this point on games. That is how it is currently being marketed.
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So you can only talk about the PS3 as being a games machine at RedCafe.Net? The first post in this thread posted a news article about the reduction in the price of the machine, nothing to do with games.

If I posted that news articles as "PS3 - Networked Wonders" in the general it would get moved here also?

I don't particularly care whether you gamer lot think of it as a games machine, it's clearly not, it's simply what the narrow minded want to box it into. As I said, you can play games on a PC. Niall for example always refused to buy a console because he could actually get basically all of the games for his PC and update the hardware on a regular basis.

The topic of the thread was not about games! It was about the reduction in price of a bit of consumer electronics.

You are wrong, now admit it!
 
Exactly.

I can appreciate the PS3 has superior technology.

However, I'm a gamer. First and foremost I want something that has the best games. The 360 is the better choice for my needs.

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No Weaste. You don't 'only' talk about games at redcafe.net. But the point is no-one accept yourself is talking about the programming side of it. So it's pointless preaching to us, given we don't care if it isn't about the games, as we are gamers.
 
Hectic said:
Exactly.

I can appreciate the PS3 has superior technology.

However, I'm a gamer. First and foremost I want something that has the best games. The 360 is the better choice for my needs.
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I have a PC, but as a non-gamer I choose not to play games on it. One could buy a PS3 for a vast number of reasons, not just to play games.
 
ffs Weaste i know that its capable of more..stop preaching

the point is that at this time its marketed as a games console till all the other stuff starts hitting the market. And until that stuff starts appearing people will judge it on what is available: games
 
and btw i have a laptop, a desktop, a 360, a PSP and a wii. I play games on them all. I dont doubt that at some point i will also splash out for a PS3, but not till more content is available and the price reduces in the UK
 
WeasteDevil said:
Our point, out point! Yes, but you only look at it as a games console, which it clearly isn't!
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No!

We look at it as something that plays games and does more. It could be a microwave for all I care. What we care about most is the gaming side of it, because we are gamers!
 
WeasteDevil said:
Our point, out point! Yes, but you only look at it as a games console, which it clearly isn't!
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It is a games machine, 1 man in 1000 will put Linux on that thing, fewer still will care that the chip in the PS3 will make its way into other machines, the rest buy a PS3 its for the games, nothing else matters.
 
Yes!

Sony themselves even market it as a gaming console first and foremost!
 
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