PS3 Made Sony Lose $3 Billion

Sorry I had to resort to such measures.

I must say however, thanks for quoting this.

WeasteDevil said:
I don't think that Sony need to cut the price in Europe just yet, especially with the games lineup coming along, and can wait to see what effect this actually has. People that are regular game players and were simply waiting for the likes of GT5:P and MSG4 (PS3 also has GTAIV) I think will not be moved at all by this. Hitting 150 (I'm sure that it will do on Amazon and Play) quid does put this however into the mass market bracket, for casual game players - something a 300 pound price point does not, even to the point that it might even make Nintendo move, even if they do not need to.

PS3 is nowhere near mass market price range, XB360 with the gimped model (you quote another of mine that shows how much it costs to make it non-gimped, Joe Pub isn't as stupid as most people think) only just. As the two big consoles do approach mass market prices, it is then down to total value for money. I think that if both were priced around 200 quid for their top of the range models, then many Wii owners will look at them in their entirity. So it comes at that point when things will start to change, and I do not think that XB360 has a chance unless it can get there 2 years before, which it will not. PS3 is here for the long term, XB360 I do not know, but it would be very silly of them now to try to produce a totally different console in the next 5 years because it is just not needed. These boxes on their current technological level can easily last 10 years in terms of features, there isn't much more required. It's Nntendo here that is going to have do do something mid-term and maybe Microsoft say "forget it".
 
both of them are crap according to me.

id rather play on the pc...any game on the pc with a good graphics card would have twice as much clarity and graphics than them consoles.
 
PS3 is boring, 360 is fun.

and yes I have owned both.

And about the cost of add-ons,

i don't need a blu-ray/hd-dvd drive, i dont need wireless connections.

All i pay for is my console, games and live (which i dont mind paying 28 pounds a YEAR, on as it is much better in my experience than PSN).

PS3 can be technically as good as it wants, but it is boring compared to the 360.

Thats my opinion.
 
PS3 is boring, 360 is fun.

and yes I have owned both.

And about the cost of add-ons,

i don't need a blu-ray/hd-dvd drive, i dont need wireless connections.

All i pay for is my console, games and live (which i dont mind paying 28 pounds a YEAR, on as it is much better in my experience than PSN).

PS3 can be technically as good as it wants, but it is boring compared to the 360.

Thats my opinion.

Wait untill Firmware 2.40 comes out;)
 
PS3 is boring, 360 is fun.

and yes I have owned both.

And about the cost of add-ons,

i don't need a blu-ray/hd-dvd drive, i dont need wireless connections.

All i pay for is my console, games and live (which i dont mind paying 28 pounds a YEAR, on as it is much better in my experience than PSN).

PS3 can be technically as good as it wants, but it is boring compared to the 360.

Thats my opinion.

You like Halo, don't you?
 
Not really. Stop making things up.

I think that he's refering to Crysis here, most boxes out there cannot handle it, it does force you to upgrade, it's the same as all PC software - it always bloatedly targets the very high end, it's a never ending merry go round. When you consider that you could run Amiga OS 3 pretty comfortably on a single SPU on a PS3 and then look at Vista, the comparision is quite startling. And as you well know, sooner or later games will require Vista.
 
I think that he's refering to Crysis here, most boxes out there cannot handle it, it does force you to upgrade, it's the same as all PC software - it always bloatedly targets the very high end, it's a never ending merry go round. When you consider that you could run Amiga OS 3 pretty comfortably on a single SPU on a PS3 and then look at Vista, the comparision is quite startling. And as you well know, sooner or later games will require Vista.

For a start he wasn't just referring to Crysis, he was making a general reference about PC games, one that is not true. As you well know, PC's do not need upgrading every 6 months and Crysis may need an upgrade yes, but only if you want to play it at the highest level which is very much unnecessary. Mine plays absolutely fine in DX9 mode at a smooth fps. Framerate over graphics choice is yet another good thing the PC has.

Also the games are a hell of a lot cheaper, so the money you save could feasibly add up to paying for upgrades anyway.

Finally, no all games will not need Vista for a long time yet.
 
Some interesting things are starting to happen it seems. There are at least two multi-platform games that are running on XB360 720p yet PS3 1080p, and one seems to have the higher frame rate on the PS3.

Polish my cock baby!
 
To be fair, you'd have to a right numpty to get a PS3.

I might buy one, and use it as a doorstop or something.
 
It was Crysis which popped into my head when I was mentioning that stuff, I bet 6 months down the line another game with higher specs comes out and you need a monster PC to run it properly.

Spoonov... why? You mean "NOT to" I think. Numpties sit and still find DVD the greatest quality ever.
 
It was Crysis which popped into my head when I was mentioning that stuff, I bet 6 months down the line another game with higher specs comes out and you need a monster PC to run it properly.

I'm thinking Geow2, although that may be longer than 6 months untill it is released on PC.
 
I'm thinking Geow2, although that may be longer than 6 months untill it is released on PC.

GeoW2 is principally aimed at XB360, it's not pushing any envelopes. On the PC you just up the rendering resolution, add more AA, and maybe use higher resoltuion textures.

It's all about graphics though the net talk, what about audio? Because XB360 and 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all PCs are audio gimped in comparison to PS3.
 
GeoW2 is principally aimed at XB360, it's not pushing any envelopes. On the PC you just up the redering resolution, add more AA, and maybe use higher reoltuion textures.

It's all about graphics though the net talk, what about audio? Because XB360 and 99.99999999999999999999999999999999999999% of all PCs are audio gimped in comparison to PS3.

I'm still waiting to get surround sound and hook it up to my PS3, MGS4 will be that much better with it I'm sure:D

Can you spare us a few hundred quid?
 
Spoonov... why? You mean "NOT to" I think. Numpties sit and still find DVD the greatest quality ever.

Not many decent games for it. The best one has hours of cut sequences. Personally, I'd have waiting another year, instead bought a 360, which has some fantastic games. You're paying a lot of cash for a games machine that will be gathering dust, unless you've bought it for movies and all. It's not like I can't afford one, but it'd be a waste of cash. I might get a Wii, though. Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Res Evil etc, all look quality games.

That said, I'm only a casual gamer. Can;t wait to play The Orange Box, though.
 
Not many decent games for it. The best one has hours of cut sequences. Personally, I'd have waiting another year, instead bought a 360, which has some fantastic games. You're paying a lot of cash for a games machine that will be gathering dust, unless you've bought it for movies and all. It's not like I can't afford one, but it'd be a waste of cash. I might get a Wii, though. Smash Bros, Mario Galaxy, Mario Kart, Res Evil etc, all look quality games.

That said, I'm only a casual gamer. Can;t wait to play The Orange Box, though.

It has a few good games imo, not exclusives, but enough games to keep me happy.
Fifa,
GT5: Prologue
MGS4
Haze
Ratchet & Clank (weird, such good fun)
 
Also chuck in Uncharted, Resistance and Warhawk and the upcoming games it has it will have a superb library in about 6-8 months.

Yeah, not played warhawk mind you, doesn't like my thing

Little Big Planet is looking cool now, at first I thought it looked bollocks, but it could have something ¬_¬
 
I'm still waiting to get surround sound and hook it up to my PS3, MGS4 will be that much better with it I'm sure:D

Can you spare us a few hundred quid?

You don't even have surround sound. I thought you were rich. You can come round mine, play on my 50"plasma or the 100" HD projector in the living room. Your choice. You bring the beer.
 
You don't even have surround sound. I thought you were rich. You can come round mine, play on my 50"plasma or the 100" HD projector in the living room. Your choice. You bring the beer.

MGS4 on a 100" HD Projector with Surround Sound:drool:

Oh wait, you don't have a PS3 you bastard.