PS3 experts, this new 80gb model

I wouldn't know if the London Eye has a fatal flaw, i haven't purchased one. I did however buy an Xbox 360 3 years ago, and it is still working to this day. Seems a bit hypothetical to suggest that it could break at any moment, due to a flaw which seems to have not affected my machine in the past 3 years.
 
I wouldn't know if the London Eye has a fatal flaw, i haven't purchased one. I did however buy an Xbox 360 3 years ago, and it is still working to this day. Seems a bit hypothetical to suggest that it could break at any moment, due to a flaw which seems to have not affected my machine in the past 3 years.

Yes but you play it for 30-45 minutes at a time, this is fine. Play longer than an hour and it would break.
 
I wouldn't know if the London Eye has a fatal flaw, i haven't purchased one. I did however buy an Xbox 360 3 years ago, and it is still working to this day. Seems a bit hypothetical to suggest that it could break at any moment, due to a flaw which seems to have not affected my machine in the past 3 years.

It's not hypothetical, Microsoft put $1 billion aside to deal with it. Just because every one of them hasn't yet broke is not the issue here. What is the issue is that every one of them eventually will, unless they are not turned on.

GB and Ret used to say the same "ah, mine still works"......... poof, up in smoke (not literally)!
 
Yes but you play it for 30-45 minutes at a time, this is fine. Play longer than an hour and it would break.

:lol: I love the way you just made up a random figure for my playing hours. Top work Elvis.

No, I do have days where me and mates have a massive fifa tournament or me and my cousin spend the whole day playing fifa with each other. I do frequently have the xbox on for 12 hours, most weekends.
 
:lol: I love the way you just made up a random figure for my playing hours. Top work Elvis.

No, I do have days where me and mates have a massive fifa tournament or me and my cousin spend the whole day playing fifa with each other. I do frequently have the xbox on for 12 hours, most weekends.

12 hours? Most weekends? :lol:

I love who you're trying to kind, mine got played 8 hours straight and it broke the next day.

That is why if I ever did decide to get a 360 I wuld be wary of playing it more than an hour or 2 at a time.
 
It's not hypothetical, Microsoft put $1 billion aside to deal with it. Just because every one of them hasn't yet broke is not the issue here. What is the issue is that every one of them eventually will, unless they are not turned on.

GB and Ret used to say the same "ah, mine still works"......... poof, up in smoke (not literally)!

All im saying is that after 3 years, wouldn't you expect a fatal design flaw to be apparent by now?

Can I just clarify what this fault is? and what it will result in? RROD?

Is it the design flaw in the cooling system, that you are talking about?
 
12 hours? Most weekends? :lol:

I love who you're trying to kind, mine got played 8 hours straight and it broke the next day.

That is why if I ever did decide to get a 360 I wuld be wary of playing it more than an hour or 2 at a time.

Do you place your consoles on radiators?
 
12 hours? Most weekends? :lol:

I love who you're trying to kind, mine got played 8 hours straight and it broke the next day.

That is why if I ever did decide to get a 360 I wuld be wary of playing it more than an hour or 2 at a time.

Elvis, i promise to you, I do frequently play it for 12 hours. Most days i play it for about 2 hours, but there are also weeks where i don't play it at all.
 
And the funny thing is people still buy it because MS has upped their guarantee to 3 years. "Yes, this console WILL most probably break, but don't worry, we will fix it and send it out again."

Why would anybody buy something that you know will, in most probability, break?
 
No.

You go on about me and Weaste be PS3 'fanboys', but you are making feckwittery responses to known problems with the 360. It is prone to break.

Yes it is prone to break, I'm not denying that. But the whole "360 survives 20 mins LOL" comments are abit silly and fanboyish in themselves don't you think? :p
 
And the funny thing is people still buy it because MS has upped their guarantee to 3 years. "Yes, this console WILL most probably break, but don't worry, we will fix it and send it out again."

Why would anybody buy something that you know will, in most probability, break?

Absolutely.

Everyone, boycott eggs, now. :devil:
 
The design fault is in the cooling system and the way the mobo is connected to the casing.


And what are the visible symptoms? Will one day it RROD, or will it just not turn on one day? Are there any signs that it is gradually deterioration, such as frequent crashing?
 
I feel a Weaste style 360 challenge coming on. If i can find all my warranty details etc, i may partake in 360 2 day challenge. Does anyone have any ideas where I stand if my Xbox 360 were to break down today? Its 3 years old.
 
It would merely be spare parts.

Pick up an extended warranty from GAME or someone if you want to gamble.
 
If it gets an RROD or over heats, don't i get my money back seeing as it was a known fault when i bought the console?
 
If it gets an RROD or over heats, don't i get my money back seeing as it was a known fault when i bought the console?

Check the Sale of Goods Act.
It would appear that you have six years to bring a case to court, but an item only needs to last as long as it is reasonable to expect it to, taking into account all the factors. The law is a bit vague as to what a reasonable time is.

One other thing, whoever sold you the console is the trader and as such the trader is liable for any breaches of contract (unless he was acting as the manufacturer's agent). If the goods are faulty, incorrectly described or not fit for purpose, then you are entitled to your money back (provided you act quickly), and you certainly don't have to take a credit note. Contact Consumer Direct on 08454 04 05 06, or at least threaten to, if the outlet isn't playing ball.

After three years, the reverse burden of proof clause may be brought into the equation, but given the litigious nature of our society, odds are there are test cases in small claims courts that the CAB may be able to point you towards as to whether you'd succeed in any claim if you have to take it that far.
 
If it gets an RROD or over heats, don't i get my money back seeing as it was a known fault when i bought the console?

All you do is ring up microsoft and they will arrange UPS to pick it up for free, fix it and returned to you in just over a week.
 
All you do is ring up microsoft and they will arrange UPS to pick it up for free, fix it and returned to you in just over a week.

This is true, my 360 arrived in Dusseldorf Germany today (and ups picked it up three days ago and considering yesterday was Sunday I am very pleased) And it is now on it's way to Frankfurt to be "repaired".
 
The problem is, and I do not have any figures for this, but the refurbs seem to break quicker than they did the day they were new. This is why you get people having sent the thing in 8+ times.

Yeah, I heard they just re-solder it so whoever buys my 360 off me is not a lucky person :D