PS2 still outselling PS3 worldwide (just)

WeasteDevil said:
Nobody knows the facts here or are willing to talk about it, but Sony Computer Entertainment IMO were shoehorned into sticking Blu-ray into the machine by its much larger brothers Sony Electronics (this part is ironic, because it was performing very badly during the PS2 days, and SCE was propping it up) and Sony Pictures. Again, IMO, PS3 was never originally designed to have a BD drive, would have been more powerful, cheaper, and launched at the same time as XB360. However, HD-DVD is dead and PS3 is catching (at least before the price drop) XB360 in worldwide sales. Blu-ray disc will also within the next 5 years become a godsend for game developers.
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That's certainly an interesting take on things. What about Kutaragi though?

I'm not sure what kind of person he was with regards to things like this, do you think he would have allowed the PS3 to be 'bullied' into a different direction?

It's easy to look at the whole thing as a massive feckup, but the whole story here is not known. Blu-ray WILL replace DVD in time, and that's one hell of a lot of money in Sony's pocket.
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I'm not so sure. I think by the time Blu-Ray takes over DVD, we will have advanced massively in Broadband speeds and storage space, making downloads the easier way to go.

I have no doubts Blu-Ray will eventually replace DVD, but I don't think it will have a life-span as long as the DVD did.

Of course they could have released a PS2HD, it would not have been difficult to do. They could have kept Blu-ray out of PS3 and made the whole thing far more attractive in terms of price. They could have done many things, but I think they really do feel that PS3 has 10 years in it, and went with the long term view. They are constantly re-engineering the machine to get the cost down, and IMO as long as they can get the "PS3 Slim" out before we get "Wii HD", then this could all pay off. Once this thing gets below or around the 180 quid mark, it will start selling by the bucket load. Yes, many people cannot afford the thing currently, but in time I think they think people will.
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This is interesting. Can you honestly foresee the PS3 coming down to £180 in the near future? That's a ridicolous amount for such an advanced piece of hardware, and I think I'm right in saying Sony are still making a loss with each console sold. Couple that with the economic conditions we're in, and Sony's recent financial results, and I just find it difficult to believe they will be able to get it that low.
 
UBERScholes said:
Having seen this thread I'm kind of tempted to buy a PS2 again. Now I have Vista 64 I probably can't install Final Fantasy 7 and 8, and there's probably other PS games I'd want to play again

Wonder if there is a good Playstation emulator for PC? I have ones for SNES, Mega Drive and N64
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Yes there are loads of good psx emulators about. Just try google as i don't want to advertise. I've got one and can put in the old games into my laptop and play away to my hearts content.
 
I know we're selling 40gb PS3's below cost to drive sales. At $622 AUD.

So not only are Sony losing money selling them to us, but our store is losing money by selling them to customers. :D
 
esmufc07 said:
I'm not so sure. I think by the time Blu-Ray takes over DVD, we will have advanced massively in Broadband speeds and storage space, making downloads the easier way to go.

I have no doubts Blu-Ray will eventually replace DVD, but I don't think it will have a life-span as long as the DVD did.
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Until we get true high quality video on demand for the masses, BD will continue to grow and will IMO hit the market saturation that DVD has. People also like to have hard copies of things.

esmufc07 said:
This is interesting. Can you honestly foresee the PS3 coming down to £180 in the near future? That's a ridicolous amount for such an advanced piece of hardware, and I think I'm right in saying Sony are still making a loss with each console sold. Couple that with the economic conditions we're in, and Sony's recent financial results, and I just find it difficult to believe they will be able to get it that low.
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We know that all PS3s from yesterday sold in Japan (it's the launch of the 80GB for them) now have the 65nm RSX. We also know that early next year Cell will be produced on 45nm. That is a massive change, probably not enough for the slim model, but for a total redesign of the mobo, power supply, and cooling solution. Once RSX is on 45nm we will then see PS3 slim. Once that happens it will go below 180 quid. I expect 240 with 45nm Cell.
 
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