Let it all out mate.
Preseason Tour Game 4: Man Utd v Liverpool (ICC, Saturday 28th July 22:05 BST)
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Of course people can moan but when they are talking complete and utter shite they should be pulled on it, negative or otherwise.
Not really as they were closer in points to all of us than they were up until January, nice try though
Of course but you would have come back with the fact that it was a preseason friendly so means nothing.
That is rather more concerning,
.As a barometer for where we are - this team losing to them like that isn't good.
You will eventually when its too late.
Do you need a link to this thread?
I'm gonna go ahead and take that as a no then
Here's the thing, tonight and much of pre season is a free pass for Jose as no one really cares about pre season games this summer, its more about fitness, team shape and getting new players bedded in... so why not go with the same formation as Liverpool and match them up with 4-1-2-3 and then if we lose 4 or 5-1 no one would really care, and most wpukd say Jose was experimenting which is good to see! The criticism is more to do with style of play than individual performances of very young inexperienced players.
Listening to his after match comments, he just seems angry with the World right now, which may bode well for the start of the season with the club creating a siege mentality. The two positives from the tour so far are Alexis and Andreas Pereira and from his comments regarding Anthony Martial, they indeed look ominous!
Listening to his after match comments, he just seems angry with the World right now, which may bode well for the start of the season with the club creating a siege mentality. The two positives from the tour so far are Alexis and Andreas Pereira and from his comments regarding Anthony Martial, they indeed look ominous!
Not really as they were closer in points to all of us than they were up until January, so even though a tiny amounts points wise (performance wise more) I am factually correct
well called
Why do you need me to quote individual posts when the last pages of this thread are full of them for everyone to see?
You might disagree that they're top reds but surely you saw the posts from people jumping on the people complaining?
Poor performance but this was basically our B Team and kids against most of Pools first team in the first half. Cant read anything into these games really. Main worry is the first team deffo won't be match ready for the start of the season and there may even be a couple more late signings to add and integrate yet. I can see the likes of Fellaini getting game time whilst the new players get up to speed. The whole thing reeks of poor planning and if we start badly we'll be chasing the pack from the off..
If you're frustrated about a "friendly" match, then something is wrong with you in the first place!
Are you always critical, upset with a defeat in a pre season friendly?
Yeah...
You said people were claiming that if you complain your not a "top red", I just wanted you to provide an example of somebody claiming that because I was pretty sure nobody actually said anything of the sort, your failure to do so indicates i'm probably right about that.
That's part of the problem with this place, somebody will come out with some exaggeration or even a flat out fabrication then you get a bunch of mindless morons going "yeah lol, so true rofl xoxo" and the whole thing turns into a circle jerk of pointlessness.
For the record, I have no problem with people complaining about whatever they feel like complaining about, I just wish people could put a little more effort and thought into things instead of simply resorting to the same old one line nonsense people already posted to death.
Also the first five games, only really Spurs that world cup wise have the same problem. I think new players is a problem most clubs will have as not many have done loads of business so far. One thing I am glad of is first five games we dont play any promoted teams (have Wolves 6th game though). Promoted teams always seem to do the odd surprise first few game with the excitement of premiership football
Just as I've said for you
Which is true.
Dunno, I might if I stayed up late or canceled something to watch my team and then they play shitty. Who knows what people can be frustrated about? I don't even mind as I don't go into those forums so much but just find it strange that any negativity is attacked lately. Why does everything need to be so positive and rosy? It's just crazy that people expect that after a loss. Doesn't matter what game it is.
I never said people were literally claiming that, did I? It just how I perceive it sometimes. It's like some people think they're better supporters for never complaining and 'getting behind the team' at all times. Thinking about it, they might actually be better supporters but who are they to say another can't vent or complain? That's what I'm getting at.2-2 now. Playing with kids as well.
At some point, you have to wonder why Mourinho insists on playing 'his way' especially in a pre-season friendly.
And I despise City.
So basically you admitted you treated a friendly game in not so much friendly manner... Staying up late for a friendly? You don't miss anything if you fall asleep. The result is not even matter. Playing style, not rare super stars don't treat friendly seriously. Canceling something for it? Whoever put a friendly game as top priority in their life deserve whatever coming the way. I meant come on. Tell me if you wouldn't think somebody weird getting all worked up in the pub when his team lost a friendly and that person told him, he missed something else because of this friendly game!
Problem here on the internet is people don't have to show their faces so they can act out all they want. Calling ou how stupid it is, is not top red-ism. It's common sense.
I was only being snide towards Arsenal fans.
Thats what your post said, if you didn't intend that then fair enough but is it really fair to have a go at them because of what you perceive them to be thinking? I fully understand what your getting at and for what its worth I don't disagree with your point but I don't think people are saying you can't complain at all, just calling for a bit of perspective.
So there will be meltdown on Bayern forum then to bottle 2 goal lead against City kids? Or just whatever negative happen here by certain group of so called United fan.
Way to miss the point - completely.
Fair enough, that's your view about it, I have mine. Let's agree to disagree.
Wait, have a go at them? I didn't quote anyone in my original post. If anyone was having a go, it was them at the people complaining. Which I get, is not done here lately. Fine, let's move on then. Everything went fine for you guys tonight, good rehearsal.
5 mins is nothing.. Should give them everytime atleast 30 minutes.
Watched a bit of the City Bayern game and there was more football in that 20 min than in all of our pre-season games combined.
I doubt anyone can miss. Finding any chance to be negative.
So because it's pre season, you would drill tactical innovative style into kids, just so in a week time most of them would not be included in the first team, then you have few days to prepare for the real game?
Kids? Half of the squad that started were 28 and older...
we're doomed in that case
So you weren't referring to anybody at all when you said "Lose 4-1, can't complain because .. top red." and then proceeded to argue about people supposedly saying that over the next 4 pages? Including when you reference 'them' in this post?
Ah! So you did completely miss my point. Thought as much. Well Done.
Giving minutes to academy players in preseason is not a priority for managers, that's just how it is. The most prominent youngsters will feature more. Chong has played a lot. Im surprised Gomes hasn't played more, but with a manager like Mourinho unfortunately you expect the kids to play less than average even in preseason.
It's fecking pre-season, get over it. No team cares about these results
Easy to say that but it does matter to some extent. Performances have been beyond dreadful and results no better. 3 draws to mediocre sides and hammered by liverpool. Dont remember us ever having a worse pre season. In fact it's similar to the pre season Chelsea had the year Mourinho got sacked.
For someone who doesn't like negativity...Anyway, let's agree to disagree. Or agree, or whatever at this point. Sorry if I offended you. Let's just move on, because this is going nowhere really.
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How does it matter when the core of the teams are in hols? We cannot just throw in any side and ask them to perform, That's not how it works. Today pool started with their star players and they are well ahead of us in preseason.
We literally had the same amount of first team players as they did. They had Van Dijk, we had Bailly. They had Salah and Mane, we had Sanchez and Mata. They had fabinho, we had herrera. The difference came in the 2nd hald when they threw on all their youngsters +Shaqiri and Sturridge. That's not some star studded team. They just hammered us because they are coached better and when they don't have their full starting squad they can still play a positive style.
They are ahead of us for pre-season, but just wait until this continues into the actual season. We aren't going to suddenly click into gear after the worst pre season of recent memory.
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