Premier League Gameweek 9

[DomesticTadpole]

Good win for Brighton.

 

[AltiUn]

I don't care if he touched the player anyway, that should never be a penalty.

 

[limerickcitykid]

Never a pen. Was never a red card either. Surprised he actually overturned it. Almost completely fecked the match Oliver did.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

All contact isnt a foul

Not a clear and obvious error though.

 

[Dr. Dwayne]

So surely he has to book him for simulation.

Should be the textbook example, really.

 

[Berbaclass]

Not a clear and obvious error though.

Well it was because he got the ball.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Never a pen. Was never a red card either. Surprised he actually overturned it. Almost completely fecked the match Oliver did.

Thought the red card was harsh. It was nothing. He didn't have to give a yellow for that.

 

[duffer]

Not a clear and obvious error though.

It absolutely was. There's no way someone like Oliver would overturn his own decision if there was any doubt.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Never a pen. Was never a red card either. Surprised he actually overturned it. Almost completely fecked the match Oliver did.

If that was us, he wouldn't have changed his decision.

Tw@t.

 

[VP89]

That was never a pen, he clearly won enough of the ball and Martin Keown is comfortably the worst commentator on the planet.

 

[utdalltheway]

Phew. Big time dive to get a peno. Glad Oliver saw some it from the right angle.
Good win by Brighton.

 

[groovyalbert]

Not a clear and obvious error though.

What? It was a fair tackle

 

[Irrational.]

Surprise surprise, Oliver in being an attention seeking twat horror.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

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So surely he has to book him for simulation.

You can’t book him for simulation unless there’s no contact. As pathetic as the dive was, he was kicked.

 

[Berbaclass]

That was never a pen, he clearly won enough of the ball and Martin Keown is comfortably the worst commentator on the planet.

Nah, that's Jenas.

 

[prateik]

Good job VAR.. for a change.

 

[NinjaFletch]

Martin Keown is an awful, insufferable pundit.

 

[Offside]

Never a pen. Was never a red card either. Surprised he actually overturned it. Almost completely fecked the match Oliver did.

Gotta say fair play that he overturned it though.

 

[Deery]

Contact is not a foul .

Should be wrecked my bet needed a draw

 

[Berbaclass]

Surprise surprise, Oliver in being an attention seeking twat horror.

TBF he made a bad call and overturned himself.

 

[Member 109952]

Right call imo, got enough off the ball. Dunno what Keown or whoever the co-commentator on BT is on about

Credit to Oliver there

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

You can’t book him for simulation unless there’s no contact. As pathetic as the dive was, he was kicked.

Think this is correct. It falls within the zone of no penalty / no dive for me.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Should be the textbook example, really.

But he hacked his leg right off! Blood everywhere.
At least his reaction suggested such

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

What? It was a fair tackle

He kicked the defender in the box & the original decision was penalty. It wasn’t clear & obvious, the diversity of opinion in this thread alone proves that.

 

[sullydnl]

Agree that it wasn't a penalty but "he got the ball first so it can't be a penalty" is faulty reasoning. It can still be a foul even if you get the ball first, depending on the tackle.

 

[AltiUn]

Not sure why the explanation to Dean Smith took so long a "your player's a cheat, that's why" would have sufficed.

 

[Chabon]

Keown is a fecktard.

I think that might be the worst piece of commentary I've ever seen. I could tell before the replay that the Brighton lad had got the ball, and that fecking ape kept going on about how it was 'obviously a penalty' even when the VAR kept going back and forth over him getting the ball. And then when the ref signals he's not giving it Keown doesn't even notice for fifteen seconds.

 

[limerickcitykid]

You can’t book him for simulation unless there’s no contact. As pathetic as the dive was, he was kicked.

That’s not even close to true and isn’t mentioned anywhere in the laws of the game.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

He kicked the defender in the box & the original decision was penalty. It wasn’t clear & obvious, the diversity of opinion in this thread alone proves that.

I thought he kicked his shin

 

[Idxomer]

Btw another elbow to the neck goes unpunished.

 

[Nickosaur]

Huge win! Well done Brighton.

Thought that was a stonewall penalty at first, and while March does get something on it, I think he's lucky to get away with it

 

[Berbaclass]

Here we go, another Kane/Son jizzfest from Sky coming right up.

 

[NinjaFletch]

Btw another elbow to the neck goes unpunished.

Yep, no idea how he wasn't off for that.

 

[Sandikan]

What!

White text brother.

 

[TheMagicFoolBus]

That’s not even close to true and isn’t mentioned anywhere in the laws of the game.

Laws or not, that's been the way the rules have been consistently interpreted for years now. Going down with no / minimal contact = dive. If you're kicked on a follow through but it's not a penalty, no yellow.

You're correct that this isn't established in the laws, but for me this is a case where the interpretation has been more consistent than many other actual laws and I'd not mind this being definitively laid down as the official standard.

 

[kiristao]

He got the ball before his foot slightly touched the Villa player.

He got the ball

Because he gets the ball clearly.

That slightest of contact on the ball before making contact with the opponent is enough for it not to be a foul? Even March knew he made contact that's why he did the typical Herrera style hand movement signalling 'i didn't touch him'

 

[utdalltheway]

Btw another elbow to the neck goes unpunished.

I only saw one slow mo and it looked like the player that got hit overreacted. Did he actually get hit in the neck?

 

[sullydnl]

Didn't think it was a penalty but I can understand Villa being annoyed if other such decisions were consistently let stand.

Personally I think having the ref look at it again is exactly what should happen in that scenario.

 

[Schmeichel's Cartwheel]

I thought he kicked his shin

Haha

 

[Berbaclass]

That slightest of contact on the ball before making contact with the opponent is enough for it not to be a foul? Even March knew he made contact that's why he did the typical Herrera style hand movement signalling 'i didn't touch him'

Yes.