Pretty sure no one's said that for two months at least.
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Pretty sure no one's said that for two months at least.
Jota in a wheelchair would outscore him.
It's just the whole...."and MO SALAH!" every time he fecking touches the ball. He's unable to say his name without exclaming it. Gets really fecking annoying after a while
He's an annoying sort of commentator anyway with his constant attempts to say really profound stuff. Throw in the Liverpool bitterness and it's a horrible combo.
Throw in G Nev with the infuriating way he says Liverpooooool with the stress on the o's and sucking up to TAA, and it really is screen smashworthyness.
At least we're not stewing on them winning the title still.
He’s unbearable
‘Frame it and stick it on the mantle piece of his life’ what the actual feck is he in about
Still don't know how to white textHow dare you?!?!
Damn, tried to white text laughing smilie.
I have just read the note accompanying the Chelsea accounts and they make it clear that all costs associated in signing a player ( agents and intermediaries included) are capitalised and amortised over the period of the contracts. The date upon which the fees are paid ( just like the cash paid out in a transfer) is not the important point here
Without doubt the most ridiculous piece of commentary of the year.
If it was a goal to win the World Cup or league or something, but not just for a nice goal in a basically dead rubber game.
Kind of goal that's becoming bread and butter for Mainoo.
Probably a bit better than any Mainoo goal, but still seemed a very strange over the top comment as if it'd be his life long memory of his career.
That doesn’t surprise me but you have not answered the key question which is Chelsea could only spend 80% of their revenue generated this year from January 1st to December the 31st, this is why the winter transfer was so non existent clubs were genuinely worried by this in January this year when they could spent 90% of their revenue.
Don’t take my word, Kieran Maguire is definitely more qualified than you or I and these are his words;
https://theprideoflondon.com/posts/...-even-if-they-win-the-league-cup-01hqbbx3rymx
If your Revenue this year which will not include CL money but does include two trips to Wembley is reduced to £450-460m then Chelsea can only spend 80% of that which is £360-365m. If your wages are reduced from £399m from last year to £325m this year and you want to sign players like Osimhen for £90m plus Agent Fees of £20m then £110m amortised over 5 years is still £22.5m plus Of course his £20m per year wages for 5 years!
That’s another £42.5m which means without other sales you’ve already broken UEFA’s FSP rules, if you do not qualify for Europe their is no 80/85% rule until season 25/26 in the PL. In other words Man United And Chelsea will probably be fighting over who wants to finish 8th more than who wants to finish 7th?
Ps Remember when Chelsea tried to circumnavigate the PSR/FSP rules by signing players on 7 year contracts hoping they could be amortised for 7 years on the accounts, that didn’t last very long now did it!
You keep making the basic error of just looking at the statutory accounts and making the leap from them to the submissions that will have been made to UEFA
Tell me how much of the sums shown in the accounts will be discounted. I admit I have only had a cursory look at the update UEFA documents but I am not sure you are right about the accounting period in terms of income nor quite what the impact of add backs will be.There will be a a much closer scrutiny of clubs cash flow and in there is a measure of debt against income.
Then you have the increase in the allowable sum
PS Chelsea weren’t the first club to extend the period over which a fee can be amortised . Indeed look no further than the likes of Harry M at Utd
He's just an over rated Milan Baros and if history has thought us anything it's that Liverpool like selling their shit strikers to Villa.
So, you better start saving, he'll probably be at Villa in a few years.
The mistake is yours if Chelsea qualify for Europe this season, for the last time you can only spend 80% of your revenue generated which will not be known until 31st December 2024.
This is included in the UEFA documents where it clarifies the accounting period for Summer and winter transfers, plus wages, plus agent fees plus amortised transfers owed historically, which you are correct can be amortised but only up to 5 years. The point you are making about account submissions with either specific relief given in certain areas is not what I’m discussing. I am trying to explain in a very simple way, it would be more advantageous for either Man United, Newcastle and Chelsea not to qualify for Europa Conference League but instead be out of Europe all together next season where you as a club Owner would not have to conform to the 80% Squad threshold rule.
I include the UEFA link once more for you to understand, this isn’t about who has the last word or as you wrongly commented ‘School Boy’ Error.
https://www.skysports.com/amp/footb...gulations-to-replace-ffp-all-you-need-to-know
(The rules clearly states the accounting period will be from January to December and illustrates last years 90% example)
Therefore Chelsea will only be able to spend 80% of their revenue generated from January 1st 2024 to December 31st 2024
This means that should they not be able to meet this financial challenge, then Chelsea would not be able to play in Europe without being fined again or worse, Transfer embargoed. This is a real scenario as the club has no European football income from media or Match-day so far this year.
It wouldn’t be the first time for Chelsea now would it?
Rough estimates on turnover are difficult because last year the club was knocked out at 1/4 CL stage but you may be £70m worse off this year already even if you play European Conference league football from September to December, the winner of that competition only receives €15.5m.
Here is the projected figures for this year and you can see that Arsenal made about €80m for finishing as 1/4 finalists in the CL.
So if you discount £70m from Chelsea £505m gross revenue declared last year but add a 5% uplift in other areas you have a turnover of approximately £456-460m and 80% of that is £368m maximum allowance which you will have to be diligent with purchasing players and arranging new 5 year wage contracts right up until December 31st 2024.
It’s more than fair to assume Chelsea wages have reduced substantially from £399m last year to maybe £325m for this year but now you can see why the club just like Man United are worried by the financial implications of paying off another Manager and his coaching staff.
Let’s be honest neither club wants to play Europa Conference League to potentially win €15.5m, when the expenses alone for 7 away games in Europe with Flight, Hotels, Transfers, security could cost as much as €1-2m.
Here’s the Link for how much TV revenue Chelsea could expect by entering Europa Conference League and even going all the way!
https://swissramble.substack.com/p/champions-league-revenue-202324-after
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I would recommend that you read the actual UEFA Regulations as opposed to a pretty poorly concoted summary prepared by Sky
It is fair to say that under the “ Solvency Pillar “ clubs will required to make reports in year and similar to the past assessments will be made over a 3 year period.
https://documents.uefa.com/r/UEFA-C...ct-of-the-club-monitoring-requirements-Online
Pay particular attention to Article 4.01 which deals with reporting period
When have UEFA imposed a transfer embargo on Chelsea ? Think you are mixing up actions taken by FIFA . UEFA could well restrict squad sizes but the imposition of a transfer embargo is not within UEFAs jurisdiction. Irrespective transfer bans aren’t included in the list of sanctions
When clubs are assessed be it 90% ,80% or 70% of income as I pointed out there are adjustments for instance the wages paid to 400+ direct employees that Chelsea have that aren’t footballers plus any wages paid to the 800+ staff that are employed directly then you have the in built tolerance of potentially €70 million plus over the period and that’s before any concession UEFA may grant due t issues outside a clubs control( detailed in UEFAs document)
When it comes to the benefits financial of competing in the EFL Conference of course they won’t be anywhere close to CL riches but alongside any UEFa prize money would see circa £1m each home game and yes there will be additional costs involved in travel, accommodation and security I am not sure they would be anywhere close to the numbers you are using.
It was estimated in prize money WHU winning the EL Conference was £37 million this was so because of the prize of a EL place as winners of the conference
https://www.footballfancast.com/west-ham-what-is-the-europa-conference-league-payout-for-winning/
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Your such a blind Chelsea fan, the next thing is your be defending the investigation by the EPL that the club is currently under too, your a new member so I’ll cut you some slack but to claim a following years benefit in Europa Conference Leagie win is a stretch at best since the Europa league money is in the following year!
The next post will be saying that Chelsea under Abrahamovic never ever looked to manipulate FFP rules by paying Agent fees to outside third party or other clubs or companies registered outside the UK, so as not to declare their true costs during the period your club is being investigated 2012-2019, no doubt this is just hear say and Roman did absolutely everything by the book!
Roman didn't do things by the book, but Clearlake will.
No matter how shit their judgement of players have been, the Potter debacle the inflated fees and the rest on the football side...
They know finance and I pretty much guarantee you they know what we need to do to make regulation and already know the deals and sales they have to make to sort it.
No matter how shit their judgement of players have been, the Potter debacle the inflated fees and the rest on the football side...
They know finance and I pretty much guarantee you they know what we need to do to make regulation and already know the deals and sales they have to make to sort it.
Oh the irony of you calling me a blind Chelsea’s supporter.
1) I said that in the case of WHU it was estimated the financial benefit of them participating and yes winning the ELC was £37 million. The point was that had they not played in that competition in 22/23 then they wouldn’t have been in the EL in 23/24. Isn’t that a fact ?
2) UEFA have agreed a settlement re RA paying sums as opposed to them going through club books .So not sure what your point is
3) Yes there is an on going PL/FA investigating see 2) above.
I am far from blind and far from naive . The new owners have a lot of issues to clear up but adherence to FFP / PSR and indeed adherence to regulations seems to be something they have put out there.
Indeed.
I personally am cutting them some slack and love or hate their policy re players but like you I can’t but help feel they know the numbers and of course will have fr more detailed knowledge of all matters as opposed to judgements being made by way of the back of a fag packet poster
Some lovely football that between Eze and Olise.
Selhurst Park is rocking.
Palace aren’t even playing particularly well. United just look completely out of sorts.
Palace aren’t even playing particularly well. United just look completely out of sorts.
Damn 4-0
I'm not watching the match, is it a fair result?
This is tragic for United and ETH.
Doesn't matter. It is probably not a bad idea to sack ETH before FA cup final and hope for a rebound with new manager.
Completely fair, in my opinion.
Can't believe we're going to drop points against this United team...
On another day it could be maybe 3-1 Palace but they're more than worthy of their lead. Casemiro with perhaps the worst single performance of the entire PL season
Glasner has completely transformed this Palace team. Glad we played them just before Hodgson got the boot.
I can see Ten Hag getting the boot tomorrow. Not a crazy prediction but damn this is crap.
Yep
Somehow they lose 0-4 and you still have to say they are lucky. Should have been 6-7 at least.
Kevin Hart noise - *Damn!*.
At least you didn't get any new injury, there's some positive to take out of tonight
Casemiro looks like he needs retirement. I know he’s been forced into a CB role but do United not have a kid in the academy who can step in amidst the injury crisis?
Did Chelsea target Olise before Palmer last summer? Imagine those two in the same team....
Eze also for them is exactly what Grealish was for us between 2019-21. When he leaves Palace it will be very bad for football if he ends up at Man. City as all the joy will be slowly drained from his play and it will just be give it to Rodri sideways every 2-3 passes.
Eze also for them is exactly what Grealish was for us between 2019-21. When he leaves Palace it will be very bad for football if he ends up at Man. City as all the joy will be slowly drained from his play and it will just be give it to Rodri sideways every 2-3 passes.
Think he'd have gone the evening if they'd lost to Coventry. Just being kept for the final and then will be mutual consent the day after.
Is it really possible for Arsenal to have 20 + shots v this United team and not win? You are far more clinical in the final third than Liverpool are hence why you're still massively in the race and Liverpool dropped out games ago.
Your CBs will eat Hojlund alive aswell. He had a decent scoring spell in the winter but he still lacks strength to hold the ball up especially with his back to goal so too many moves break down with the ball running away from him.
It wasn't unfair, put it like that
United with crazy emergency, but that still doesn't justify getting beaten from pillar to post like this from Crystal Palace, with all respect