Premier League Gameweek 30-32

[Precaution]

What's with the soft penalties? Outside the box that's not even a free kick

 

[Cpt Negative]

He touched the ball, but he didn’t come away with it. A clear penalty, for me.

By that logic, clearing the ball out of play would constitute a penalty.
It’s never a penalty, he gets plenty on the ball

 

[rajds89]

So winning the ball is no longer enough to overturn a penalty.. disgraceful decision.

 

[Raoul]

Even Lee Dixon things it wasn't a pen.

 

[Foolsgold21]

I don’t mean to go all ‘okay boomer’ but didn’t Lamptey get the ball?

 

[Eugenius]

Quite funny they took 5 mins to give the dalot stonewall pen yet that is waved through instantly.

 

[Dobba]

You'd get as much sense out of VAR's decisions if Stockley Park was just some bloke tossing a coin.

Zero consistency from game to game.

 

[SambaBoy]

How's that a penalty? Crazy decision.

 

[Beachryan]

I give up man. That's actually a pretty good tackle from a winger. Took plenty of the ball.

Why do we even have VAR?

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Not a pen at all.

 

[Bobski]

I thought if you win the ball it’s not a foul, unless it’s a dangerous tackle or similar? How is it that football rules are so opaque or ambiguous?

Does getting a light touch on the ball constitute winning it? If the follow through does not wipe him out the attacker still has possession of the ball.

 

[BarryWinks]

Lamptey's an idiot. No need for that tackle in the box. Could have stood his ground and Jesus wouldn't have done much with that.

 

[Cpt Negative]

Clear Pen all day

How? He changed the direction of the ball. Games gone fecking soft.

 

[mu4c_20le]

How's that a penalty? Crazy decision.

Same old Arsenal

 

[kouroux]

Not that they would overturn it but really referees should be made to watch on the screen for every single penalty decision

 

[CoopersDream]

Stonewall penalty.

 

[eire-red]

The rules thicken. Is there now a certain threshold of contact you need to get on the ball? Understandable only if it's a reckless or dangerous tackle.

 

[Beachryan]

I mean, I want Arsenal to win here so fine, but Lamptey takes the ball out of Jesus' path there, and it's simply not a foul. You're allowed to make contact after you take a ball, as long as it's not dangerous.

That's a pretty decent tackle.

I've no issue with the ref giving it. But what is VAR for if not that?

 

[E-mal]

Not that they would overturn it but really referees should be made to watch on the screen for every single penalty decision

I think this one is a pen mate

 

[Nickelodeon]

Will say it again. The only clear and obvious thing should be the penalty, not the error within referee’s decision. Another shocking decision today given in the name of the clear and obvious error or lack thereof. They’re just legitimising diving now.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

The direction football is headed in is not good at all. There is so much diving week in week out from all teams and then refs are helping them by giving penalties like that one

 

[kouroux]

I think this one is a pen mate

I really don't think so but I'd say Lamptey is an idiot throwing himself like that when he had a teammate next to him anyway.

Lamptey's an idiot. No need for that tackle in the box. Could have stood his ground and Jesus wouldn't have done much with that.

This. Sometimes defenders are really asking for the ref to make a decision

 

[No Love]

I’m sorry, but it’s not enough to just naively throw yourself in and commit to challenges in the box, hope to get a touch of the ball before clearing out the man and then say, “I won the ball.” You need to be more intelligent and clued in than that. The game has changed way too much to think you’ll get away with that.

 

[It's B Rubble]

If Lee Dixon doesn’t think it’s a pen with his arse tinted glasses, im inclined to agree with him for once.

 

[mu4c_20le]

Stonewall penalty.

Dont think you understand what stonewall means

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

Will say it again. The only clear and obvious thing should be the penalty, not the error within referee’s decision. Another shocking decision today given in the name of the clear and obvious error or lack thereof. They’re just legitimising diving now.

It’s ridiculous, how do we know that the ref saw him clip the ball there and that wouldn’t have changed his decision

 

[Rojofiam]

How any so called fan wants us to finish lower is beyond me.

It's not about ten Hag's future for me.

Obviously I want CL football next season, but it's incredibly unlikely now.

I'd like to be in the Europa League next season, as I think we'll be overwhelming favorites if we sign 4-6 new players this summer, which is within the realms of possibility.

However, I'd rather take no European football and finish 9th over the Conference League. With less games to play and those potential 4-6 new arrivals, we could have a really good season in 24/25 and surprise everyone.

 

[kouroux]

I’m sorry, but it’s not enough to just naively throw yourself in and commit to challenges in the box, hope to get a touch of the ball before clearing out the man and then say, “I won the ball.” You need to be more intelligent and clued in than that. The game has changed way too much to think you’ll get away with that.

You're right, you can't even expect referees to use common sense anymore. Defending has become very very hard

 

[CoopersDream]

Dont think you understand what stonewall means

I don't think you know the rules.

 

[mu4c_20le]

I don't think you know the rules.

What would you call it if he hadn't gotten the ball at all then?

 

[Who's Kissing Cameras?]

Lamptey's an idiot. No need for that tackle in the box. Could have stood his ground and Jesus wouldn't have done much with that.

He got the ball. Didn’t endanger opponent. Good tackle.

 

[kouroux]

It’s ridiculous, how do we know that the ref saw him clip the ball there and that wouldn’t have changed his decision

That's why I think for every single pen decision, they should rewatch on the VAR telly, if after that he maintains his decision then fair enough

 

[Beachryan]

I wonder how many actual goals there would be in a season if they changed the rules for a penalty only if it's a clear goal-scoring opportunity. Obviously will never happen, but penalties are such a ridiculously harsh, ahem, penalty for challenges like that one.

 

[RacingClub]

I would like to hear a proper explanation as to why the Doku incident from City Liverpool wasn't a penalty while this one was as the Doku one seemed to be far more reckless/ dangerous.

 

[Brwned]

Does getting a light touch on the ball constitute winning it? If the follow through does not wipe him out the attacker still has possession of the ball.

True, I wouldn’t say he won the ball. Jesus looked favourite to get to the ball after that touch anyway, and clearly the follow-through impeded him from getting it. But I just had it in my head that if you touch the ball, it’s not a foul, and that’s only ever superseded by violent or dangerous play. Was that rule of thumb not true?

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Great save from Raya.

 

[Ayush_reddevil]

That's why I think for every single pen decision, they should rewatch on the VAR telly, if after that he maintains his decision then fair enough

I think there needs to be an appreciation for how big a penalty is in football. If they stipulated that refs had to watch it then that would take the stigma out of if they go to the screen it means they have to overturn it

 

[Jippy]

I don't think you know the rules.

Stonewall

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verb

1. delay or obstruct (a request, process, or person) by refusing to answer questions or by being evasive.
   "she has also stonewalled queries about her love life"

noun

1. an act of delaying or obstructing a person, request, or process.
   "I have repeatedly given him the opportunity to clear this matter up, but the estate has met with stonewall after stonewall"

 

[RedRocket9908]

Definite pen that, you can see it clearly on the angle from behind Jesus

 

[eire-red]

I’m sorry, but it’s not enough to just naively throw yourself in and commit to challenges in the box, hope to get a touch of the ball before clearing out the man and then say, “I won the ball.” You need to be more intelligent and clued in than that. The game has changed way too much to think you’ll get away with that.

I've no idea what you're implying here. Like, if he doesn't get the ball it's a pen. Here, he gets the ball and looks like after that touch Adingra may have a chance of reaching it.

Are we going to start giving fouls and pens because defenders shouldn't make that tackle, even though they win the ball?