Predict what United's fate will be in 3 years time

PlasticRed said:
Man United is the hardest club in England to fail with.
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That was true in 2013. Not anymore though. At this point, regular incompetence or simple underwhelming risk-averse management will see us fail to compete near the top.
 
The club will be in the doldrums of the lower half of the league. It will make more headlines for the ongoing bitter disputes between it's 5 different ownership entities. The owners will be involved in protracted legal disputes over land purchases, planning regulations and debt liabilities as yet another "Artist's Impression" of a "Revitalised Old Trafford Regenration Area" are released to an increasingly skeptical press.

Andy Burnham, representing the GMCA shareholder ownership of 7% of the club, tries to portray some unity with other owners, Relentless Holdings, Glazer Family Trust, and INEOS that they are optimistic that renewed investment will follow "in due course" from the new partner "Delaware Vulture Capital" that will mean the club can secure the record breaking £5 billion finance deal from the "big 4" banks to build the £2 billion new stadium and refinance the clubs £3 Billion debt burden.

"It's time for the FA Chairman, Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed Al Nahyan, to stop being so London-centric and threatening the club with relegation for some financial irregularities and start being supportive of our efforts to regenerate a deprived area of the city he once represented!" said the greying former "King of the North".
 
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We will achieved the Mission 21 objective to win the PL by 2028 with Amorim establishing the status of our next SAF.

We also win the double with CL win against RM. The new Balon D'or is Chido Obi Martin.

We also built a spin of young players to dominate the PL and CL for years to come with world class attacking football.
 
Siorac said:
Solid mid-table team. We won't even be memeworthy anymore because people will have got used to the idea that Manchester United aren't a big club anymore. Our mediocrity will be a part of the furniture, if it isn't already.
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I’ve always been optimistic about our future but no more. We will remain a mid-table team for years to come.

1. We out-spend everyone yet are only in 15th place ….. and many supporters think the solution is to keep spending.

2. We have a manager incapable of raising the current squad’s level of play …. and he gets a free pass from many supporters.
 
JoseM4 said:
I’ve always been optimistic about our future but no more. We will remain a mid-table team for years to come.

1. We out-spend everyone yet are only in 15th place ….. and many supporters think the solution is to keep spending.

2. We have a manager incapable of raising the current squad’s level of play …. and he gets a free pass from many supporters.
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And we have supporters that don't understand that radical change in mentality, system and responsibilities of squad will take time to come to fruit. And would like to change manager with a proven successful system for a new manager for short term bounce to repeat the cycle next year.
 
If I had to guess in 3 years you’ll be fighting for top 4 but still far from the top.

Obviously you could just as well end up on the championship, who knows.
 
In 3 years time i think we will be the best team on the planet....

Sir Jim convinces the Glaiziers to sell the rest of their shares to Elon Musk and he decides to move the club to Mars under the newly branded name of Mars chester United!
 
I’d like to think that somebody (Berrada?) has put together a realistic 3 year plan, not this bulls*T that Ratcliffe has got him spouting about winning the league in 2028. Look at history, United(67-93)Liverpool(1989-2020) Arsenal(2004-? 21 yrs and counting)and now Chelsea (2018? - 7 yrs and nowhere near it) all went a long time before they became champions again. If you don’t regain the Title within 5 seasons then you’re toast.

We need to adjust our aims to reflect where we are right now. I really hope that our in-house plans look something like Ive listed below. Berrada doesn’t have to spell it out so bleakly but could use terms like ‘stability’ & ‘sensible rebuild’ so as not to depress the fans too much. Though, what would I give for stability right now?

2025 stay up. Hopefully, we’ll achieve this but it won’t be thru our efforts it will just be that there are 3 other teams who clock a lower points total than us. Note, I don’t say “worse than us” because there is no team in the PL worse than us. (See Soton match).
2026 Finish around 50pts, improved home form and never be in relegation danger. Have a right good dart at both domestic cup comps. I’ve been supporting United over 60yrs (1963) and I’ve always considered us a cup team.
2027 More progression. Aim for above 55pts, better home record, new manager (appointed summer 2025) has formed a good relationship with fans and his young team.
2028 Back around 65pts where we’ve tended to be post Fergie. This should qualify us for a European League comp (as it will be by then).
Finances on a stable footing and the fans enjoying going to OT (no improvements) again.

My fear is that it will look something like this:-
Ineos will have crashed & burned. The Glazers will have full control back and will be making billions out of their own fan interactive streaming service.

United will be circling the drain each season and the fans will be praying that the financial gap that the 3 promoted teams from the Championship have to overcome is too much for them and we stay up, but it won’t be pretty. Gawd knows what the team will look like & which number coach they’re on since they sacked Amorim in 2025.

Will OT still sell out if this is the case?Glazers won’t care they’ll be selling their own match coverage around the world. They will not puta dollar into the club or the ground. Their current asking price is, allegedly, $5 Billion, and that’s only going higher if their plans for exclusive distribution rights come to pass.

Who knows? But, like all football fans, I’ll be hoping for the best but fearing the worst.
 
SonOfFergie said:
And we have supporters that don't understand that radical change in mentality, system and responsibilities of squad will take time to come to fruit. And would like to change manager with a proven successful system for a new manager for short term bounce to repeat the cycle next year.
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Amorim was the wrong choice for the job ….. but that’s water under the bridge as we’re stuck with him for now.

I haven’t called for Amorim to be fired yet but he should be on a short leash. I expect to see signs of progress. But instead, we’re moving in the wrong direction. He took over a 12th place team and quickly moved us to 15th.
 
Gearing up for a massive 6 pointer derby away at Preston North End, to see who can consolidate a play off place.
Lots of Caf members calling for manager Tom Cleverley's head if the trip to Deepdale ends in defeat. Promotion specialist Neil Warnock said to be interested if Cleverley gets the axe.
Rumours in the press of a takeover by a St. Petersbourg bratva. The Glazer family continue with the line that the club is not for sale unless an interested party match their valuation of $15 billion.
 
We will be playing 4-3-3 and people here will be complaining about why aren't playing 4-2-3-1 to accommodate Mainoo and Garncho.
 
We're going to struggle. We struggled enough when we had millions and millions to spend every summer, but now we have no money and a billion pounds worth of debt.

Obviously the Glazers will keep finding ways to milk the club and Ineos will enable them. Amorim will end up sacked because we can't bring in players for him and we'll be stuck with a new manager with a different style and players who still don't give more than 20% effort.

We are going to have to become a selling club, hopefully able to develop players and sell them on. The Dortmund of England is the best we can hope for.
 
It would be easier to put your money on EUROmillion ticket than to predict this stuff, really. Its a mess. But from what we know:

1. Avram Glazer can not sell his stake at United as this is his only leverage against his huge debts in USA. He would be in leagle trouble if Manchester was sold.
2. Four Glazer sisters and brothers want to get out. They finally managed to iniciate the sale process of the full Club two years ago. But without one of Avram/Joel, they could not proceed with the full sell of their shares.
3. Joel Glazer is the middle man between four sibblings and Avram. But he is for some reason beholden to brother Avram, so he also is not selling his shares.

Whats gonna happen? I would love the british goverment go after these leaches and kick them out of Man Utd bussines but Im not sure its legaly possible.

My bet? Nothing is gonna change until Avram says good bye. And with these people, I bet Avram will live past 100 years old mark. They have the best doctors.
 
Yakuza_devils said:
We will achieved the Mission 21 objective to win the PL by 2028 with Amorim establishing the status of our next SAF.

We also win the double with CL win against RM. The new Balon D'or is Chido Obi Martin.

We also built a spin of young players to dominate the PL and CL for years to come with world class attacking football.
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That's a hell of a lot to accomplish in 3 years.
 
Pushing for the CL spots with a very young team.
Playing as a team with no Prima Donna 'Superstars'.
Hopefully, enjoyable football as a bonus.
 
merged with Nice and relocated to France.

shit joke aside, I could actually see us top of the table, with Charlton and Stevenage far behind.

ok, another shit joke aside, it will be something like current Juve most likely. far from title, but close to top 4, rarely worse than 7th place.
 
We'll finish somewhere between 8th and 12th every season.

What we're seeing this season isn't an anomaly; it's us course-correcting and finding our true talent level.

We'll be a mid-table club for a while now because we simply do not have people in charge with the footballing knowledge necessary to recruit properly within financial constraints.
 
Optimistically between 6th - 8th in the league. Any semi competent owner would clear the deadwood in the summer and spend big. It's a bit of hopium to think INEOS are semi competent of course.
 
Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
I see us either acquired or about to be acquired by either a state, a state-backed investment fund, or a private investment firm.

INEOS are going to create over the next few years a very healthy balance sheet by cutting the wage bill and continuing to focus on transfers like Dorgu (cheap, young, promising). On the football side, we will probably spend the next couple of years improving, but ultimately being upper mid-table in the PL (6-8). That's good enough with some cup runs to keep revenues at a decent level. If the government follows through on the initial phases for the area around the new stadium, you're now looking at a profitable club, with a big brand name, and with clear plans (and costs) to go to a bigger stadium + generate more revenues.

INEOS and the Glazers will then have two options, take on more debt for the stadium, or cash out. I think they'll pick the latter.
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It says a lot that we consider 30m for a 20 year old nobody cheap. 30m is the kind of money most clubs on our current level never spend on any player.
 
Nice thread OP.

For the last what, 10 years? It always felt like we should only be a season or two away from being proper successful again.

I will predict we will be making CL football. Right now I feel it's the hardest period to predict going forward.
 
I think we’ll be mid table at best, perhaps playing better football but ultimately average.

Brexit Jim will have sold anything not nailed down and sacked so many staff that we play in front of empty stadiums as there’s no admin department left to process ticket sales and renewals
 
Three years from now well hopefully be finally rid of the ten hag era players ready to begin our next rebuild under the new manager who is now saddled with the failed signings of the Amorim era.
 
In three years time, we're going to win the league!

The Football League, that is.
 
Ten Hag returns, Sir Jim starts up front as he refuses to buy players and doesn't score all season.

As part of cost cutting measures INEOS sold all of the chairs in the stadium and has introduced a bring your own chair policy.

Luke Shaw is still injured.
 
TheRedDevil'sAdvocate said:
The golden axis of Maguire-Bruno-Rashford will still be around. Some will still be wondering why we can play only a certain style of football.

Either Hojlund or Zirkzee will be the cause of frustration for the fans for failing to score in ten games, after being given a new six-year deal on big wages for hitting the 15 goal mark just once (with the fans congratulating INEOS for being swift).

We finally move away from giving managers a blank cheque and putting aging superstars on crazy money, but we go all the way to the other extreme and start signing underwhelming youngsters. Not knowing what better to do, INEOS give Amad/Mainoo/Garnacho/Yoro new lucrative contracts, hoping that they will carry the team on their shoulders. They regress, though, and fans are left wondering whether the club is cursed or not.

After ETH, Amorim and * insert name of your choice * have solidified United's lower midtable status and "modern tactics" have become anathema around Manchester, Solskjaer returns to OT to take the best out of the existing players.

After a positive start to the season, things go downhill. Last week of the season, United need a win to avoid relegation. In the 90th minute, Bruno, whose lotlotradar had been off all game, finally plays an inch perfect long ball to Garnacho on the left. The latter breaks on the counter and, as he enters the box, he can just play a square pass to Amad for a tap-in...
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:lol:
Plot twist : he squares it, Amad pots it, and VAR rules it out.
 
FortunaUtd said:
It says a lot that we consider 30m for a 20 year old nobody cheap. 30m is the kind of money most clubs on our current level never spend on any player.
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It’s all relative. “Cheap” not in absolute terms, but compared to the Antonys, Sanchos and Pogbas. It’s also relative to what the most sought after players cost now (e.g. Gyokeres).

But you’re absolutely right, we don’t necessarily need these kinds of big signings to lift ourselves from lower mid table to in and around the top 4. We just need our recruitment to be more hit than miss, and hopefully some of the promising players in the academy stepping up.
 
2nd in the league, CL quarters, and on course for a trophy.

It really does look like a tear it all down and burn it approach, and it isn't nice in the slightest. But you can make up 43 points between campaigns if you're lucky and play a back five. And with us now completely gutting the squad to the point where we're like "who else can we sell? Kobbie maybe?" we should have any easier time refitting it. Again..
 
Red Ten said:
2025 stay up. Hopefully, we’ll achieve this but it won’t be thru our efforts it will just be that there are 3 other teams who clock a lower points total than us. Note, I don’t say “worse than us” because there is no team in the PL worse than us. (See Soton match).
2026 Finish around 50pts, improved home form and never be in relegation danger. Have a right good dart at both domestic cup comps. I’ve been supporting United over 60yrs (1963) and I’ve always considered us a cup team.
2027 More progression. Aim for above 55pts, better home record, new manager (appointed summer 2025) has formed a good relationship with fans and his young team.
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It would be extremely hard to prevent anyone good from transfering out if United are finishing 8-10 for three seasons (which is what 50-55 pts will get you).
 
Three years is both a short time, and a long time, in the football world.

My prediction is we'll be on our second manager since sacking Amorim, still complaining about the owners, still wondering if we'll ever get back to the heady heights of being anywhere near the top of the league, completely inconsistent week after week (mid table stuff), and still hoping that one day Hojilund might come good enough to get 15-20 goals a season.

So absolutely nothing will have changed.
 
Squeaky_Bum_Time said:
It’s all relative. “Cheap” not in absolute terms, but compared to the Antonys, Sanchos and Pogbas. It’s also relative to what the most sought after players cost now (e.g. Gyokeres).

But you’re absolutely right, we don’t necessarily need these kinds of big signings to lift ourselves from lower mid table to in and around the top 4. We just need our recruitment to be more hit than miss, and hopefully some of the promising players in the academy stepping up.
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Exactly.
 
I really don't know what to expect from United in three years' time.

If Nottingham Forest can be comfortable in third place right now surely we can as well. I doubt we'll ever be relegated but I also doubt we'll be a PL title holder or even contender in three years as well unless the Glazers and INEOS GTF outta Manchester.
 
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