Predict what United's fate will be in 3 years time

I think Sir Jim wouldn’t be taking all the flak and doing all this as a minority shareholder unless he had plans to buy the club.

I think the Glazers will be gone and I think as part of the deal the debt will be paid. Reduce the price and pay the debt, maybe that’s what Jim is doing now. Reducing the price.

We’ll be challenging for top 4 hopefully with Amorim leading and a good squad of young players. PSR is being replaced after a year so we should bounce back.
 
This time next season we'll be pretty much where we are right now, and the pillocks in charge will be scratching their heads wondering why and making the staff at the superstore redundant. And some on here will be blaming Gary Neville...
 
Our only real hope is that certain Glazer family members make frequent trips via helicopter or light aircraft companies that have been run by people with a similar work ethic to themselves. Thus leading to an increased statistical likelihood of a major maintenance failure or Pilot miscalculation helping to resolve the current ownership debacle and allowing for a legitimate sale of the club.
 
The clubs finances are vastly improved due to a massive reduction in players contracts and non football penny pinching, which has allowed for the repayment of a large chunk of the finance debt.

The new stadium has broken ground despite protests from fans due to the naming rights being sold.

The team are young and hungry, off the back of a league cup win and 4th placed finish the previous season, but they are back down to 6th with Newcastle top of the league after signing Mbappe on £700k a week.

Mason Mount it due to become a free agent in the summer after managing to pick up his 30th starting appearance for the club.
 
There's a few things that could happen over the next few years that may or not be influencing current decision making.

- A Premier League Netflix type thing is launched which gives the traditional "big 6" plus maybe Newcastle and Villa a massive cash injection.

- A version of the Super League actually happens and again, a massive cash injection comes United's away.

If they know either of these are coming, they might be trying to hang fire on major investment until this new revenue is in the bank.

The other side is the Premier League and wider European football bubble might burst leading to a massive reduction in wages/spending for everyone and potentially a huge influx of players leaving for Saudi. The other side of that is a much more competitive Premier League. If Ratcliffe suspects this is happening, he might be reducing spending massively over the next two years to try and ride the crisis out.

Another potential thing could be the club changes philosophy completely and we become a little bit like Dortmund/Ajax where we aim to bring in young players and sell on for huge profits. The club still doesn't regularly challenge for big titles but we become a lot more stable and we pick up the occasional Europa League/FA Cup/EFL Cup.
 
I have no idea. I kept thinking we would see progress with each new manager...and nothing really good. I do know we have to do much better with transfers. I think Yoro, Dorgu and Ugarte puts us in the right direction.
 
3 years time? Taken over for pennies on the pound by a middle eastern state.
 
Based on the current trend
- 10th Place finish
- Players will be travelling by bus all across Europe to save costs
 
Probably in a similar league position but with a squad even more full of young players. INEOS will have majority ownership while Amorim, Berrada and some of the other spoofers we see in the stands every week will be long gone.
 
I've been saying this for a while, i'm afraid we are becoming a legacy club. We have to stop the rot but that will require getting the glazer fecks out. That won't happen in 3 years i reckon. I think in 3 years time, we will have sacked Amorim, become an upper mid table club, and have about as much pull in transfers as Tottenham.
 
It depends who is running the club. If its the same motley crew, then Amorim will leave when his contract runs out and the next shiny new thing will benefit from Amorims hard work. We will be an average age of 22 team and fightng for the Europa league spot, finishing 6/7th. Maybe in the next three years we may have won a cup or two.
On the other hand, hopefully a nation state has bought us then, and we are a big team once more fighting for the title. Thats the only way we will get the debt shifted, so the club can run at a good profit again.
 
Frostie said:
Top 4 again. City are regressing, Liverpool will be a shadow of their current side if VvD, Salah and TAA leave. Spurs are Spurs, Chelsea will likely have had another 3 managers by then, Newcastle will lose Isak, Guimares and Tonali once the big clubs come calling, Villa are punching above their weight and won't hack it regularly, Brighton/Forest etc will lose their best players and Arsenal might just buy a striker so they'll likely be table toppers by that point assuming they don't lose the core of their current squad.

If United buy well and clear out the dross in those 3 years, they could easily be title challengers as all the big players will have had to do some kind of rejig themselves. Aside from Arsenal who I think have all the ingredients already, just missing a top striker. If they get Isak in the summer, they'll be champions in 2026, no question.
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What about if the other teams buy well? They got a much better pull for players than we have at the moment.
 
Ricardo de la Vega said:
Insolvency, refounding, Phoenix Club like Rangers? We seem to be broke.
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If there was a thought of insolvency the receivers would sell the club to clear the debts, there would be plenty of buyers at that price point, so it won't happen and before that the Glazers would either clear the debts or sell, basically no chance they will let the club go for free when they could either invest 1bn and keep an asset worth several times that or just sell it for several times that anyway (albeit less than they wanted 2 years ago).

What I predict will happen is sadly, probably not a lot in terns of debt, I think there is a big swing on what happens next season, we may spend in the summer by selling players or taking further debts, but unless Amorim can get us back up the table and into Europe we won't have the the money to make further expenditure and may not even have the option of replacing Amorim.

There is an outside chance that either the Glazers will pay off some of the debt, or will sell further shares to SJR on the proviso that he pays off some of the debt, but neither thing will happen so long as we squeak by PSR and FFP.
 
Clear all the players on bloated contracts who are not contributing anything.
Fix the leaking roof.
Clear the dead rat before anyone sees it and
Hopefully we can give sandwiches to staff again.
 
Being part of the tier-2 of premier league clubs in terms of results, i.e., making top 4 about 50% of times and occasional knockout stage in the European competitions.

Our biggest constraint, besides poor club management, is now attractiveness to top players who are motivated for football success. Footballers careers are short and I don't see how very good prospects or existing top players would want to come to United because they can get well paid at other top clubs and achieve more. We need to strike lucky with 1-2 talents around whom we could build the club. But that's not easy to come by.
 
Not even worth speculating.
We can throw all the money in the world at the team, but it doesn’t guarantee continuous success on the pitch and trophies.
If you throw enough mud at the wall, some of it will stick, so no matter how diligent or intelligently they go about rebuilding the team, it’ll probably take a few attempts to get us back to where we all want us to be.

The key thing is sorting out the club and restoring it as a stable, viable business, so we can have the sound financial backing that will be needed to even get close to challenging at the top table.
Without that, we will permanently fade into an also ran with a distant history, …..or go bust.


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Being optimistic, hopefully the club is relatively stable with a young squad regularly challenging for European places between fourth and eight. That will be the base we need to develop on to become title challengers.
 
I'm fairly certain Jim Ratcliffe will own 100% of the club within that time. He will also pay off/move the debt by that point, and plans for the new/renovated stadium will be in place.

On the pitch it is impossible to say. The new structure clearly has a better focus on squad wages (there is no way Dorgu would be on £40k pw under previous regimes) and that makes the sales of players that don't work far easier. But I think we are in for a LOT of pain over the next two seasons getting there.
 
Unless a new owner comes in. It will be where it is now. Mid table battling relegation. The Glazer family have killed this football club.
 
If Amorim is given the time to restructure the squad and the backing even under attack for supposedly being boring like Louis Van Gaal which sent Manchester United lurching from manager to manager and didn`t get the results wanted, in 3 years` time a realistic prediction is
A more resilient and disciplined team which has given youth its chance and resulted in the emergence of at least three young players who not only have the skills but the mindset to help United at least be challenging for a top 5 place;
A team that shed Harry, Marcus, Luke a couple of years before. United recognising that those players went as far as they could, as well getting rid of other under-performers;
Possibly has won an FA Cup but is still not likely to win the Premier League title for a while and certainly not a European Cup.
 
We've appointed,over time, the football equivalent of the senior officers/designers of the Titanic...I cannot recall what happened to that ship, three years after it's maiden voyage.
 
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