Should've scored 5. But we're through and got a good draw for next round.
FA W FA Cup 3rd Round
Wigan Athletic 0:2 Manchester United
Post-match discussion
Mon, 08 January 2024
Seeing as they had around 30 attempts between them 3/10 is quite a generous rating.
Bruno only managed to get on the score sheet with a penalty and celebrated like he'd just sored the winner in the ECL final
It's a worry we even attempted half of the shots. Devoid of creativity and technical ability.
At the moment Hojlund is though.....
I've had to check last nights fixtures after reading some of the posts in this thread, for a moment I was thinking I'd watched a different game.
We gave what was one of best performances of the season so far, and failed, we have a bunch of forwards who if you painted the goals flourescent yellow, put fairy lights on it, and a big sign above it saying "GOAL" they still couldn't find it.
Rashford is Antony Mk2, and a poor one at that, a one trick pony, and he can't even do that against League 1 full backs.
Onana only had one thing, maybe two to do all game, and he did both well.
Apart from that only three or maybe four of our players get a mention in dispatches.
Evans
Dalot (Only for the goal)
Mainoo
Garnacho
These were the only ones I could see that had any hunger, the rest were just complacent, literally strolling around.
If any team comes in and offers us £50m for Rashford, Bruno, McTom or the rest of them, we should snatch their hands off.
Sorry, Rant over.
Saying that, I agree with whoever it was said we should keep an eye on Mr Tickle, and keep the other on Godo
We gave what was one of best performances of the season so far, and failed, we have a bunch of forwards who if you painted the goals flourescent yellow, put fairy lights on it, and a big sign above it saying "GOAL" they still couldn't find it.
Rashford is Antony Mk2, and a poor one at that, a one trick pony, and he can't even do that against League 1 full backs.
Onana only had one thing, maybe two to do all game, and he did both well.
Apart from that only three or maybe four of our players get a mention in dispatches.
Evans
Dalot (Only for the goal)
Mainoo
Garnacho
These were the only ones I could see that had any hunger, the rest were just complacent, literally strolling around.
If any team comes in and offers us £50m for Rashford, Bruno, McTom or the rest of them, we should snatch their hands off.
Sorry, Rant over.
Saying that, I agree with whoever it was said we should keep an eye on Mr Tickle, and keep the other on Godo
I'm quite stunned people were happy with the game last night.
We were playing a team in the bottom half of League One and we made them look a Premier League side.
Just depressing really. Yes it's a good result, but pretty irrelevant - Spurs will probably thrash us.
We were playing a team in the bottom half of League One and we made them look a Premier League side.
Just depressing really. Yes it's a good result, but pretty irrelevant - Spurs will probably thrash us.
Looking at the part in bold, I think that fact brought some complacency into the team, some almost thinking all they had to do was turn up to win, they are the ones that got a shock.
A few as mentioned had the right mindset and did their jobs very well.
(Hopefully) Those same players that didn't perform last night, will have a totally different mindset against Spurs, they will need it, or we are in as you said for yet another wake up call. We do need to beat Spurs, they are on a roll, and with Chelsea and Newcastle on our heels we need the win to stay in touch with European places.
Chelsea have got Fulham, and Newcastle have City, tough games for both of them, so we need that win.
Worrying how our dead attack still couldn't find the net and it's another defender with the one finish.
No Antony to blame, we're so inept at scoring.
No Antony to blame, we're so inept at scoring.
I’m intrigued as to what analysis you’ve performed that led to this conclusion
We did the necessary, but still have players who "can't hit a barn door sat on the latch". Should have been 4 or 5 nil at halftime.
Thought Mainoo had a good game, and nobody (thankfully against a L1 side) disgraced themselves.
Marcus still slowing or stopping the game for 80% of the time when receiving the ball, otherwise there seemed to be lots of first time touches, layoffs and passes, certainly more than usual, but considering the opposition its perhaps not too surprising.
False feeling I know, but it was nice to watch a game where we were in control from start to finish.
Thought Mainoo had a good game, and nobody (thankfully against a L1 side) disgraced themselves.
Marcus still slowing or stopping the game for 80% of the time when receiving the ball, otherwise there seemed to be lots of first time touches, layoffs and passes, certainly more than usual, but considering the opposition its perhaps not too surprising.
False feeling I know, but it was nice to watch a game where we were in control from start to finish.
Mainoo was brilliant in my opinion. Only 18 years old and holding the center-midfield on his own, doesn't make it less impressive that it was against a League One side. What a gem we have in him.
Yes, I agree, his movements, body shape, touch on the ball and his ability to spot the danger, all first class in one so young. Just hope his development is not hampered by whats around him,
Wasteful in front of goal again. It took a RB come LB to score the first goal..
Hojlund should have had a few and Mctom and Rashford. ..pretty comfy game but wasted chance after chance that gives the opposition hope..
Hojlund should have had a few and Mctom and Rashford. ..pretty comfy game but wasted chance after chance that gives the opposition hope..
Where was Dan Gore last night?
No my point was more that there aren’t many u20 strikers in the top top leagues that are scoring regularly, so it’s unfair to put that pressure on Hojlund especially given the team around.
The pressure is on ETH / the team who chose to go for him this summer when he was clearly still raw and developing. They decided that he was the man to lead the line with no other striker bought to take on some of the weight, so it is their fault they have not tactically adjusted to suit their new 19/20 year old £70m striker. You could blame the players like Rashford and Garnacho for being too greedy, but ETH should be drilling them and drilling them that their first thought should be - where’s Rasmus? Hes missed chances of course, but he’s also had the worst service in the league. Put Hojlund in Liverpools team and he’d probs be on a similar number of goals to Nunez at 5 years his junior.
My final point regarding Nunez was more comparing what Nunez was doing at Hojlunds age (can say the same about most top 9s like Kane and Lewandowski too). Hojlund has good movement for age, has good instincts and he works hard, the bits he needs to work on are his composure (which will come with confidence and experience), better hold / link up play (Harry Kane wasnt the master hold up / link striker he is at 20 years old on loan in the championship was he?) and perhaps his aerial ability (which is something you can more easily train too).
I have full confidence in Hojlunds potential. Whether he was the right striker to buy last summer is another question. But he’s here now and we need to do better for him, or I fear he won’t realise the potential he has.
“we made them look like a Premier League side”
good one….
It's true, they were in the game until that penalty...
Rashford was the main reason we didn't score more. His decision making is so so poor. Hojlund is a close second.
Sure. If you’re not actually watching the match and only able to follow the scoreline…
Wigan were never in that game. We never took it out of first gear.
Yeah, in opposite world
A start to what?
Good thing other teams don't park the bus against us and we can destroy them on the counter...
I am trying to understand why you all think that Garnacho had good game, while Rashford had bad? What Garnacho did the whole game beside that long range shot that ended on post and one cross that hit Hojlund? Both have been playing against League One defenders, not like it was different setup.
Efficiency by our forwards was very lacking as has been said, but some of the claims in here such as "Wigan were made to look like a Premier league side until the penalty" are just bizarre.
If you take this match on its own, it was a routine away win against a lower league side. However, taking this match on its own is nary impossible given the current season, so I do understand some of the trepidation.
For me, the biggest worry coming out of this match was how Rashford huffed and puffed and was kept in pocket by a League One side.
His lack of urgency and willingness to track back is frustrating (and almost expected these days), but last night really makes me wonder if he can make it back to the level he reached last season.
On to the next round!
If you take this match on its own, it was a routine away win against a lower league side. However, taking this match on its own is nary impossible given the current season, so I do understand some of the trepidation.
For me, the biggest worry coming out of this match was how Rashford huffed and puffed and was kept in pocket by a League One side.
His lack of urgency and willingness to track back is frustrating (and almost expected these days), but last night really makes me wonder if he can make it back to the level he reached last season.
On to the next round!
Think it would be the two created chances
Mainoo my MOTM by far, not sure how McCoist gave it to Dalot who was ok for me but again Rashford and Bruno were shocking with Mctominay not far behind but a wins a win, Spurs on Sunday will bring us joy obviously
Would have to be for his goal if anything.Mainoo my MOTM by far, not sure how McCoist gave it to Dalot who was ok for me but again Rashford and Bruno were shocking with Mctominay not far behind but a wins a win, Spurs on Sunday will bring us joy obviously
Reading that Rashford created six chances last night so seems unfair to dig him out whilst praising Garnacho.
I must have missed them. He looked really poor and incredibly slow in decision making. He slowed down so many attacks and lost all momentum.
He laid one on for Dalot. What were the others, aside from the ones where he just cut in and had a shot for himself?
Mainly for himself, when Marcus did hit the bye-line he only attempted to cross the ball when he had no other option.
I can appreciate that his personal game plan of 'cutting in' last season is not working this season, and getting to the bye line and then putting the ball across is welcome attempt to bring in others, namely Rasmus; but watching Marcus try to progress along the bye-line gives the impression he is still aiming for the near post to find a spot between keeper and post and only when that is not available he looks to cross.
No 'I' in team Marcus
And the worst of that is how much time he had and used to triple-think the decision to pass it off. He absolutely did not want to give up on shooting it.
Exactly, his frustration with his form is obvious, but his speed and surprise of last season is missing, mainly because other teams plan to counteract his preferred option and double mark him or the full back faces him full on, preventing his outside run.
I think twice this season I have seen him hit a first time early ball across the box, both resulted in the ball in the oppositions net, but one was ruled offside... Erik needs to get a grip with him!
I think even in these 4 minutes highlights it shows that he wasn’t poor, made chances and didn’t slow down attacks. He was unlucky with the chances he had for himself too.
I don’t think chances created counts as a stat if he’s made a chance for himself, I think it has to be for someone else. Rashford does look to score more than assist he’s not a creative first winger, like a lot in the league that’s hardly news. There’s no point playing Rashford to get down the byline and put crosses in as his primary goal especially when we have a goal shy striker.
I spent most of Monday worrying about the game and made me realise how shite we have become!
As said FFS it’s Wigan and I’m worrying!
My god how far we have fallen.
DOnt be silly. A highlights reel against Wigan, get some perspective. He should have had a field day. He constantly gets the ball on a break or in space, dummies a couple of times and then comes to a standstill. Its awful, get some perspective. Just because he congressionally managed to get the ball across, more by luck than judgement, doesn't change that
Because of all the negativity around Rashford all season and the way people are always reluctant to criticise youngsters. You don’t expect unbiased opinions on here, surely?!?
Pogue you dont half post some rubbish. Rashford was poor, if you think that was a decent performance against a rubbish team then it shows how low your standards and expectations have sunk. His decision making is so slow its painful to watch.
If was an ok performance. As was Garnacho’s. Not amazing. Not terrible. If anything, Rashford was the more productive of the two.
The opinions on here have got insanely biased and toxic as the season has gone to shite. So much bile spewed week after week after week. It’s a mess.
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Compiled from 204 ratings.
Score Predictions
157,34,5
- Man Utd win
- Wigan win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 24% Wigan 0:2 Man Utd
- 17% Wigan 0:3 Man Utd
- 13% Wigan 1:2 Man Utd
- 9% Wigan 1:3 Man Utd
- 7% Wigan 0:4 Man Utd
- 4% Wigan 0:1 Man Utd
- 4% Wigan 2:1 Man Utd
- 4% Wigan 1:0 Man Utd
- 3% Wigan 2:0 Man Utd
- 3% Wigan 9:0 Man Utd
- 3% Wigan 1:4 Man Utd
- 2% Wigan 2:3 Man Utd
- 2% Wigan 1:1 Man Utd
- 2% Wigan 3:0 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 0:0 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 3:1 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 0:5 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 5:0 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 8:0 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 2:5 Man Utd
- 1% Wigan 4:2 Man Utd
Match Stats
- Wigan
- Man Utd
- Possession
- 33% 67%
- Shots
- 9 33
- Shots on Target
- 2 14
- Corners
- 2 12
- Fouls
- 6 9
Referee
Anthony Taylor
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