100% agree. This game is much more useful than thumping them 5-0. Of course that would have been nice but this is where the team realises they can dig in if need to and not crumble like a deck of cards.
PL W FA Premier League
Manchester United 2:1 West Ham United
Post-match discussion
Sat, 27 September 2014
100% agree. This game is much more useful than thumping them 5-0. Of course that would have been nice but this is where the team realises they can dig in if need to and not crumble like a deck of cards.
1. Both the absolute best and worst from Rooney today. Absolutely mindless kick.
2. For once, our defenders did well. All four were brilliant.
3. De Gea has not quite started off where he left off last year. Some poor decision making.
4. Di Maria was exceptionally poor till the last ten minutes when he did well maintaining possession and killing time. Im sure it was a one off as hes been brilliant otherwise.
5. I'd like to see Januzaj start next match. Di Maria is the only one presently providing pace, I think with Rooney's suspension it would be a great opportunity to move to a 433 of sorts feating AJ and ADM. Mata, while I love him, will not be an injection of pace that I think we need certainly against better teams.
2. For once, our defenders did well. All four were brilliant.
3. De Gea has not quite started off where he left off last year. Some poor decision making.
4. Di Maria was exceptionally poor till the last ten minutes when he did well maintaining possession and killing time. Im sure it was a one off as hes been brilliant otherwise.
5. I'd like to see Januzaj start next match. Di Maria is the only one presently providing pace, I think with Rooney's suspension it would be a great opportunity to move to a 433 of sorts feating AJ and ADM. Mata, while I love him, will not be an injection of pace that I think we need certainly against better teams.
That's a great win. The team did no wrong as a whole as far as i'm concerned. We've defended very well the whole game considering the injuries, the goal was an error by de gea and the red card was a mistake by rooney.
We didn't panic or crumble, the subs were good and necessary, couldn't be happier really.
We didn't panic or crumble, the subs were good and necessary, couldn't be happier really.
We should have played to our strengths before the red and this game would have been in the bag before that. Pleased with McNAIR, Shaw and Rafael. I think we need another player with different attributes in attack, maybe Adnan, to give us something different.
See this is something that will improve over time, lets take a step back and think about it. Today we had Rojo playing his first game at CB for us and a McNair next to him who was making his debut - along with Shaw who has PL experience but is still a newcomer. Perhaps its just me but thinking back to it I dont recall West Ham troubling us all too much, in fact this season i feel a lot of the goals we have conceded have been mistakes that have lead to goals rather than us unable to defend. With a new manager comes new tactics, formations and expectations. LvG only said yesterday he feels hes giving the players too much at the moment to handle but thinks they will adapt.
On paper i know people look at the likes of Evans/Smalling/Jones and think they're not great but i still believe had any of them been fit this season and not playing with injury we wouldnt have shipped as many goals as we have. I'm not saying because we handled West Ham we can do the same against Chelsea/City but i think as the team plays more with each other they will start to be a lot more assured.
Allardyce actually used the word 'bollock'?!
The sort of game and result that changes a teams mentality. It will do them a world of good. Just a bit worrying how a goal for the opposition puts us in to Brain Fart mode. It's like the blood runs from the players brains...
Also, refs had nothing to do with today. Last week yes, today not even maybe. That is a red card every single time.
'Relief' is the overwhelming feeling after that.
Anyway, that's all the really easy games out the way now; Everton, Chelsea, City and Arsenal to come in the next 6...
Anyway, that's all the really easy games out the way now; Everton, Chelsea, City and Arsenal to come in the next 6...
What about in the build up to Rooneys red where a West Ham player clearly handballed the ball into Downings path? I'm not saying two wrongs do not make a right but had he correctly blown for that Rooney would not have got a red (it was deserved mind you but the point stands)
Missed the game, how did we play? How did Shaw and the young lad making his debut play?
I agree. But Adnan will need to make the most of his opportunity because theres a shitload of great class ahead of him. Just as long as its not Young and or Valencia!
I'll just throw it out there...I thought our play a man down was for the most part very,very good. I thought Valencia did very well and Fletch did a good job organizing. I can't understand why no AJ for RVP though, RVP was gassed.
I'm not as impressed as some of you. If we had been playing Chelsea or City or even Arsenal and the second half went like it did then yes it would of been a hard worked win but it was West Ham at home. Being down to 10 men shouldn't suddenly make West Ham into Barca mrk.2, we should lose a bit of possession, maybe give away a couple of extra chances but we should still have the quality to atleast match them even with 10 men.
Mistakes by refs are inevitable but theres no excuse for Rooney's actions today. That was violent conduct, and as captain thats completely unacceptable.
I'll take anything. Good bit of defending in the end, but we really shouldn't be holding on like this. Most of our problems self created.
My God I can never give up the fags while watching United.Contemplated biting my toe nails in the end nothing else left.Hoofing the ball long is only going to result in the ball coming back there were times when we should have run the ball and kept possession but great character from the lads and 3 points is very welcome.Now I'm going to have a drink.
When i saw it i thought he was ahead of play, therefore offside. Was he on?
And if he was off is Big Sam annoyed that the goal was disallowed for being offside or that the ref called it without being 100% sure? Either way hes a dipshit
The offside was incredibly tight. Goal could easily been given on another day.
Have to agree.
It was between him and herrera for motm for me up to the sending off.
Herrera shaded it for me but im developing a man crush for him so i might be biased.
Defence overtook both after the sending off though.
It was stupid but i'd still play him when hes back (unless the other 3 do something special in the mean time).
Fat Sam is clearly an idiot, definite offside by Nolan there.
Charlie Nicholas having a right go at nearly all our players on SSN. Bafflingly said Rafael was poor.
Fat Sam always whinges like feck when we play them.
I have a broken tv remote after Kevin Nolan's goal.
Thought it was a really spirited last half an hour. Though Rooney's red card was silly, he didn't skive the player down like the commentator was saying. Clipped him but was too high.
Thought it was a really spirited last half an hour. Though Rooney's red card was silly, he didn't skive the player down like the commentator was saying. Clipped him but was too high.
The players digged deep and held on as a team. The experience will do them a great more deal of good than the result itself. Plus McNair was thrown in the deep end and swam out of it beautifully. All in all a good outcome for us this match bar losing our captain for suspensions.
agreed...although i think we have said this several times before...!
Good first half. Got nervous after they got it back to 2-1. Rooney got a straight red for anxiety and then the whole team bounced between nervous/determined for the rest of the match. McNair had a really nice debut. Apart from the goal you wouldn't really have guessed that 2 of the defence were making their debuts and another one was making his positional debut. Rafael/Herrera could become a really good combination.
I agree...although in the match thread people were saying that Thorpe should have been played instead. Just goes to show that a manager does have more evidence on what is going on throughout the teams at united than people sitting at home......
Not under LvG.... definitely Moyes!
Can I take a second to laugh at Kevin Nolan thinking he'd scored the equalizer? Couldn't have happened to a nicer c*nt. 
He's clearly offside from that picture. If we had scored that goal and it was given, rival fans would be shouting corruption.The offside was incredibly tight. Goal could easily been given on another day.
well..people were saying it after QPR....and then......
The offside was incredibly tight. Goal could easily been given on another day.
Doesn't look very tight at all in this pic. His body is clearly off.
Cheers, at least there are some positives to take then.
Against Everton, WBA, Chelsea, Man City, Crystal Palace, Arsenal?
The offside looks pretty clear in that photo. Offside is offside; distance is irrelevant.
they are already shouting corruption over at rawk though
Man of the Match
Runners-up
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21%
Ander Herrera
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20%
Paddy McNair
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3%
Wayne Rooney
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2%
Marcos Rojo
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2%
Angel Di Maria
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2%
Luke Shaw
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2%
Daley Blind
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1%
Robin Van Persie
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1%
David de Gea
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1%
Radamel Falcao
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 499 ratings.
Score Predictions
650,120,80
- Man Utd win
- West Ham win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 18% Man Utd 3:1 West Ham
- 11% Man Utd 3:2 West Ham
- 8% Man Utd 4:2 West Ham
- 7% Man Utd 3:0 West Ham
- 6% Man Utd 2:0 West Ham
- 5% Man Utd 2:1 West Ham
- 5% Man Utd 4:1 West Ham
- 4% Man Utd 5:0 West Ham
- 4% Man Utd 2:2 West Ham
- 4% Man Utd 4:0 West Ham
- 4% Man Utd 0:5 West Ham
- 3% Man Utd 1:2 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 0:0 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 2:3 West Ham
- 2% Man Utd 5:1 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 3:3 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 1:0 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 1:3 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 1:1 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 4:3 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:4 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:3 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:5 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 5:2 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 0:1 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 2:4 West Ham
- 1% Man Utd 4:5 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 1:4 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 3:5 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 2:5 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 1:5 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 0:2 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 3:4 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 0:4 West Ham
- 0% Man Utd 4:4 West Ham
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- West Ham
- Possession
- 57% 43%
- Shots
- 8 13
- Shots on Target
- 3 4
- Corners
- 7 10
- Fouls
- 10 12
Referee
Lee Mason
Man Utd Lineup
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replaced by Tom Thorpe
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replaced by Antonio Valencia
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replaced by Darren Fletcher
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