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Manchester United 0:3 Tottenham Hotspur

Post-match discussion


Mon, 27 August 2018

Why he wad applauding the fans this way after the game? Some say he is about to leave. Bein sports and Richard keys the moron said that too. What is going on with Jose really? He looks always nerve. And that is not good in front of your players.
I assume some stopped caring for him, Pogba I guess. We are in big troubles and it seems we dont have those people who can sit and take the right decisions. Hard times really.
 
The men management of Mou' is awful, can't support all that toxicity, remind me my work. :)

I'm sick of seeing the players run' like chickens without head, and be congratulated for that. Fans who support mourhino today, watch out for the hangover like chelsea fans after....
Im sad for Valencia, Smalling, all the youngs (Martial, Shaw, Rash...) and the fans. Sanchez brings nothing, apart screaming on his teamates, since the first day.
 
That second goal, the more i watch it, the worse it gets. Everybody just doing his own thing, zero communication, zero coherence...wow. This team is coached by Mourinho? :eek::wenger:

The players have chucked it. This will be one of those seasons that we just need to get through as quickly as possible and forget immediately. Zero chance that the manager sees it out.
 
Lindelof for the third goal was shocking tbf. Stood and watched Smalling get beaten and started running once Lucas ran past him. If he's on his toes he stops the goal.
 
After this clusterfeck of a transfer window and pre season this season was always going to be tough. Didn't expect it to start quite as shit though. Don't think we'll make top 4. This team really sucks any pleasure of watching football out of you.
 
Thing is, I fear Woodward is too arrogant to admit his mistake and would rather sack Jose than admit he fecked up.

Mou can't care less. He's a bad loser. If he can't win here then he'll move were he can.

I think the official presser and the MUTV presser basically confirm my line of thought. He clearly said that he can't play good attacking football and win with this defense
 
No words :mad::mad::(:(

Just 3 games and we are 6 points behind

Sad for the club
 
That was for the knobs that would prefer us to play expansive football every week and lose, nothing to do with Jose, he has my support 100% it's not his fault our attackers can't finish.
 
Good analysis by Neville on Sky. I think these are testing times for us as fans. Jose still has that fire in his belly, just saw his press conference, absolutely fecking destroyed that journalist.

The club need to stick together and rally absolutely everybody. Players who do not want to play for him should just say so and be sold in January.

We are going to war lads/lasses, and it will be a long bloody season.
Great talk. But who will listen? We are so disjoint as a club now, in and off the pitch. Who can deliver those message to the club. And who really cares at the club? Who really support this football team?
 
Strangest 3-0 defeat I’ve ever seen. I’m not going to read through all the crying on here but I thought we played well and were badly let down by individual mistakes. Hard to blame Mourinho for that and I felt for him.

Exactly !! I take this any day than that last week's Brighton Sh1t. We showed different side of our game today but somehow that also didn't work !!

Something has to be done or change for sure
 
Lukaku - with the right service easily 30+ goals a season, Sanchez - On form is one of the top 6 players in the world, De Gea - Best keeper in the world, Martial and Rashford - Both capable of tearing up defences, Pogba - Best player on the pitch in a world cup final, Matic - Like he showed at the start of last season, can be a rock in front of goal, Luke Shaw - Has showed before he can be the best left back in the league etc etc

The problem isn't the players and how good they are, its the manager. Brighton beat us last week with a team that prob cost less than Pogba. We could bring in Messi and still struggle with Jose in charge.

Lukaku would have to have the world's best service. Like David Silva, David Beckham, Michael Laudrup feeding him balls. Issue is, he's is easy to defend against as he is the only big man who is Tom Hank with his back to goal.

Sanchez is NO WHERE NEAR top six players on the world even on form. Perhaps if every other top ten player does their ACL's he might be. For arguments sake, Hazard, Silva, KDB, Kane, Aguero, Salah, Ronaldo, Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, Greizmann, Costa, Bale, Kroos.

Martial/Rashford are both capable of tearing apart defences. Once. Every eleven games. Moura has just torn our defence apart, is he "capable" of it or is it just one game?

Matic is a decent player, world class four years ago. Not anymore.

So apologies, I massively disagree with your assessment of our squad.
 
It's looking bad. All our central defenders have multiple mistakes in them, we have no balance from left to right, our midfield is sloppy and disjointed and we are wasteful up top in addition to looking like a bunch of players who've never played together.

I actually think top four is going to be harder than first anticipated. There's a cloud over the club and the press won't shut up about the manager, the players etc; so that won't help the mood and we are the least cohesive of the top teams and I think we have the worst defense.
 
Don't tell me that is the attitude of a man standing for his team, everything is about him, he never take responsability.
 
We’re in absolute mess. A mess of average players bar a few & a mess no new manager can fix. A lot of players needs to be sold. We have to cash in to get what we can & rebuild because there is no quality all round & we’re sinking quite badly. The club is suffocating & the fans are suffering too.
 
I’m not even angry here. Showed up for how poor we really are as a whole. People wanted us to give it a go, we have done and it’s shown up as to why we can’t play that way - atrocious at the back.

Spurs wobbled first 20 but then experience in Toby at the back steadied the ship - we drop heads at the back with no leader communicating.

From board to the u21,setup. We are a shadow of a club. Even if Jose walked or got sacked - changes little as we still need 4 players in and we still have to shift a few lost causes, with cnuts on the board wanting their sponsorship deals first. Long season ahead and we need as much support more now than ever.

We've needed 4 new players every summer since about 2012. Are we really this unlucky in bringing in players? Something is rotten at the club, how can we buy so much crap, how can no manager get a full season of consistency out of them? How are our rivals picking up solid buys for reasonable prices? What the hell is going on? It makes me angry, but then i just sort of have to laugh at the shambles...
 
Great talk. But who will listen? We are so disjoint as a club now, in and off the pitch. Who can deliver those message to the club. And who really cares at the club? Who really support this football team?
We do. And we should support the club through thick and thin. Respect to all the fans in the stretford end. Yes it will be shite, but victory when it comes (and it will), will be much sweeter when you have gone through the bad times.
 
We need a world class striker ffs. Not that Lukaku who could not hit a barn door from 5 feet. How on Earth did he miss it? Not only the that chance but also the scuffed shot from the Shaw cross and another header he missed the target completely from 6 yards. All that in the first half and we would have been at least 3-0 up and we would not have lost. Blame him for the loss and not players like Anders who played out of position. Yes Jones could be a liability too but he had some good tackles and clearances too.
 
You know just after Moyes git sacked. Danny Mills no less, yes Danny fecking Mills said it would take 5 years fir us to get back to challenging for the title.

It’s looking a little optimistic
 
We've needed 4 new players every summer since about 2012. Are we really this unlucky in bringing in players? Something is rotten at the club, how can we buy so much crap, how can no manager get a full season of consistency out of them? How are our rivals picking up solid buys for reasonable prices? What the hell is going on? It makes me angry, but then i just sort of have to laugh at the shambles...
Back to the DOF argument again. Something needs to be done with the purchasing of players.
 
Probably still trying to get his move before the window shuts. It will be him or Jose. My money is on Jose leaving soon.

Neither should have been brought(back) to the club, 2 monstrous egos who put themselves first.

Pogba is a magnificent talent but he is also a clown, how easily he got drawn into trying to outdo Dembele man v man tonight shows a problem with his mentality. If Utd had a great team he would be a wonderful decoration on top but building around him? Not sure how you even begin.
 
Mou can't care less. He's a bad loser. If he can't win here then he'll move were he can.

I think the official presser and the MUTV presser basically confirm my line of thought. He clearly said that he can't play good attacking football and win with this defense

Show me a manager who is a good loser?! I want him to be a bad loser otherwise he is in the wrong job.
 
Maybe now the armchair managers and Mourinho-Out-Brigade will realize that this is what you get trying to play the fabled "free flowing attacking football" when you have to resort to the Jones-Smalling CB partnership yet again. I also wonder how happy the people preferring nice football over winning are now. Or, yeah, just keep on sharpening those pitchforks.

The game itself saw a pretty dynamic attacking display in the first half, one of the better ones post-SAF imo. I especially love the driven passes from anywhere around the middle of the park to Lukaku/Lingard. This is definitely new but I am not necessarily sure if Spurs Home is the place to try it first. Sure, the attacking impetus was lacking, but it's been pretty much a new system we were playing today.

Yet, 2 brain farts from Jones (well,...) were what essentially cost us the game (Goal 3 was pretty much a given after 1+2 and us opening up imo), or, at the very least, cost us a goalless draw today; 0-3 is surely a more nasty score than our play today deserved.

Shaw MOTM I think, looked scary, Fred was solid and Herrera again in watchdog mode. Attack looks pretty lame for the moment, I chose to hope for an improvement should they adapt to the new system quickly.

Defence obviously pretty tumescent today, Smallling with a good performance in the first half, pretty bad for Goal 3, and Jones, yeah, I discussed Jones. Maybe those 70m in the coffers could do a job on the pitch.
 
Ed and Jones need to go ASAP

Good on Shaw for getting himself back in form, another excellent game from him
 
We do. And we should support the club through thick and thin. Respect to all the fans in the stretford end. Yes it will be shite, but victory when it comes (and it will), will be much sweeter when you have gone through the bad times.
No doubt we do and we will always do and we pay the price too sadness and depression really. But what I meant who loves this club from them the board who really cares and think wisely for the future of this club? It's easy to sack the man but I think we have much bigger issue here.
 
He has underperformed... he has been given chances... but he's better than Lukaku and Lingard who consistently get more minutes. Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel if he got a consistent run of play that he'd finally become a star. Sadly, on a top team like United, the manager doesn't have the luxury of letting him work through his issues. We should have sent him on loan to give him some more regular time as a starter, but unfortunately this time has passed.

I wish I had your blind faith that something with no evidence to support it could come true. Lukaku scored more and produced more for a pants Everton side than Martial has done in four seasons at United.
 
Surprised at the level of common sense in here actually...

First half was good but we got tired and spurs changed tactics, our defence looked so shaky all night. If Lukaku had tucked his open goal away we have won that game, a real shame but hey we go again.
 
For all Jose haters ...just imagine how much wounded he is now and his ego got hurt !! But he is struggling to change things at UTD which is the main issue !

I think All his unnecessary comments about Wenger and other managers in Italy are biting back now. it's Karma guys
 
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Look at this fecking cnut
 
That reaction has nothing to with a club, its about him, his record. You can shit on United but respect me and mine 3 titles plx.
 
Surprised at the level of common sense in here actually...

First half was good but we got tired and spurs changed tactics, our defence looked so shaky all night. If Lukaku had tucked his open goal away we have won that game, a real shame but hey we go again.
Don't you worry that you could be saying that a few times this season?
 

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Possession
57% 43%
Shots
23 9
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5 5
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5 2
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11 16

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