Possession don't mean that much. In this match, it means united is chasing for an equalizer while Newcastle is aiming to counter attack after leading.
LC L League Cup Round of 16
Manchester United 0:3 Newcastle United
Post-match discussion
Wed, 01 November 2023
I didn't know we had a game today.
Nor did the players
Just going through the motions.
You’re right though. However, it seems to be the case with any half decent team we play: they score great goals easily, the ball always bounces their way, the officials tend to believe their extravagantly acrobatic dives. I wonder if after dominating English football for so long, other clubs know that we’re now ripe for revenge and just love whipping our arses.
At the moment though I am so sick of it I’m never sure whether it’s my own darkened lens I’m looking through and seeing things that aren’t really there. Don’t think so, mind.
Only this club returns to glory is to get rid of most of these players.
There wasn't one. Anyone who says otherwise is lying.
Sacking is necessary, but sacking alone doesn't help if you don't have plan for succession within this season. See Chelsea and Tottenham last season. We may just write this season off, and start look for the next manager. Not necessary sack ETH when there is no suitable replacement.
I doubt we can get a decent interim manager after RR experience. Hiring United way ex players don't help it for long term planning if they just go back to do what SAF used to do.
Apart from winning.
Culture reset you say? That goes as far as ownership. Restricting the club yet still appoint incompetent people in important directors role doesn't change a thing. When Football Director still act like the manager's servant when it comes to transfer target, then it's same shite different name. New manager would come and spend all the available budget to sign his own players. And when the team failed, the new players become deadwood. This vicious cycle need to be stopped by holding the Directors accounted for their incompetence. But that's tall order for these clueless owners.
This might be one of the most embarrassing results we’ve had in the last 10 years.
From my Newcastle supporting mate before the game (he thought they were throwing the game away):
“Our back 4 and goal keeper combined have played like 10 games in a year”
“Livramento and Krafth have 2 games in 2 years between them”
The fact that we lost 3-0 against this, at home, is frankly so pathetic I can’t even put word
From my Newcastle supporting mate before the game (he thought they were throwing the game away):
“Our back 4 and goal keeper combined have played like 10 games in a year”
“Livramento and Krafth have 2 games in 2 years between them”
The fact that we lost 3-0 against this, at home, is frankly so pathetic I can’t even put word
I'd look more at the build up to all three goals, all of them came from Man United cheaply losing possession and truly awful defending.
I said a few times before, and I'm not joking, that bringing in a feng shui master to both Carrington and Old Trafford for a thorough cleansing wouldn't be the worst of ideas.
Can’t be pissed off with that result. It the League Cup and it might allow ETH enough time to start drilling this team properly.
The idea is that Ratcliffe will likely take over that side soon. The hope at least. You hope he will put his people, lots of talk of Paul Mitchell who has been around and has a good reputation to be a football director. Whatever it is, there will be new people calling the shots. We need those people to be the ones to decide what to do. And there's no use in making big decisions before they actually come in. If they want to keep ten hag, then they keep him. If they want him gone, they replace.
I'm numb from the waist down.
Hey, at least beating United still matters to other teams! So there's that...
It has honestly come to the point where I expect all teams to beat us.
United still takes my breath away, albeit in a much different way. Felt so bad for my dad watching this last night. Luckily I was on the road and could not follow it.
This rot seems to be going from top to bottom now. I blame ETH for not being able to setup a proper strategy, to give them confidence. The blame the players for not giving a damn, for getting this much money and still seem to have zero responsibility for their actions on the pitch. We are in dire need of leadership. Top to bottom.
Never quite understood the hate from many towards Fred.
He was a decent player, someone who always gave 100%. Something that can’t be said for a majority of the current playing group.
Far better player than the current so called midfielders ETH has at his disposal. Not suggesting results would be different if he was still here but at the very least he would have shown some pride in the jersey and his own performances.
He was a decent player, someone who always gave 100%. Something that can’t be said for a majority of the current playing group.
Far better player than the current so called midfielders ETH has at his disposal. Not suggesting results would be different if he was still here but at the very least he would have shown some pride in the jersey and his own performances.
The only positive take-away from this game...
The grass at OT must be nice man.. Our rivals love doing sliding celebrations at OT.
The grass at OT must be nice man.. Our rivals love doing sliding celebrations at OT.
Poor missus.
Nobody said that they were the sole problem. If you can't see a problem with two 'senior' players in the squad, 'star players', being simply not up to standard, then I don't know what to tell you. It sets a horrible example. The entire club needs a rehaul, everyone can see that.
We probably do, but we miss RVN as well.
The problems will not be solved, or not long term by sacking the manager. This isn't Chelsea where they got it right time and time again under Roman. This is Glazer's United run by idiots. In an ideal situation we would just give half of these players away and start with a clean sheet, but financially we are in such a state that we cannot do that. I would keep very few of them.
We also miss Fergie…
No.
Neither did the players.
It has been mistake after mistake since he left. That first appointment was vital.
I'm sure our training sessions are a blast, I mean the more time passes the better the team looks.
Feck me, did anybody saw that Newcastle utd lineup? That was a fking second string reserve team that just came to Old trafford and spunked us 3-0. I'm sorry, i am a huge ETH fan but being outplayed in our own turf by a second string Newcastle side is by itself a sackable offence.
I only watched the second half. Lots of possession with little movement and no cutting edge.
In fact, apart from 1 late run from Bruno which he skied, I don’t remember us making one chance against a reserve back 5.
I don’t agree with everything Neville says but he’s right in that there’s a massive problem when you are leaking goals but aren’t a threat at the other end to compensate.
In fact, apart from 1 late run from Bruno which he skied, I don’t remember us making one chance against a reserve back 5.
I don’t agree with everything Neville says but he’s right in that there’s a massive problem when you are leaking goals but aren’t a threat at the other end to compensate.
fecking appalling - actually worse than Sunday, the end
it feels like that. Reminds me of last Ole's last weeks.
That's the issue, they can't see that or at least they can buy would still look for scapegoats and blame players they don't really like.
We have threads on here called 'Bruno and Rashford are a problem' or words to that effect, which is simply not true.
Last night proved that.
Hello darkness, my old friend
The horrorshow continues ,no matter what permutation of 11 players ETH fields the result is the same, crap performances ,lack of effort and spirit.The changes need to start at board level by removing the 4 Glazer siblings and actually appoint people who know what they are doing .We are going to have to wait until SJR issues are resolved unfortunately by which time we will be in the bottom half of the Premiership and out of the Champions League.
Am I delusional to think that performances from Amrabat and Hannibal (aside from the early recklessness) were not that bad. They played simple passes relatively quickly and were able to recycle possession. There was absolutely no creativity in front of them and some awful mistakes at the back, especially from Dalot
November 1986 following a thrashing in the LC by Southampton double FA Cup winning manager Ron Atkinson was sacked & replaced by SAF who finally managed to turn us in to a football power house again.
November 2023 following a thrashing in the LC ETH carries on & no doubt the poor results & performances will continue.
November 2023 following a thrashing in the LC ETH carries on & no doubt the poor results & performances will continue.
If the manager cannot get the players to play for him, then either he goes or the players go.
Maybe it is time to start from scratch.Starting from the owners downwards.
Maybe it is time to start from scratch.Starting from the owners downwards.
Man of the Match
Runners-up
-
12%
Hannibal Mejbri
-
8%
Andre Onana
-
7%
Antony
-
5%
Harry Maguire
-
5%
Rasmus Hojlund
-
4%
Mason Mount
-
4%
Sergio Reguilon
-
2%
Casemiro
-
2%
Sofyan Amrabat
-
1%
Victor Lindelof
-
1%
Bruno Fernandes
-
1%
Diogo Dalot
-
1%
Alejandro Garnacho
Player Ratings
Total Average Rating
Highest Rated Player
Lowest Rated Player
Compiled from 210 ratings.
Score Predictions
94,106,10
- Man Utd win
- Newcastle win
- Draw
Detailed Results
- 26% Man Utd 2:1 Newcastle
- 14% Man Utd 0:2 Newcastle
- 12% Man Utd 1:2 Newcastle
- 12% Man Utd 1:3 Newcastle
- 8% Man Utd 1:0 Newcastle
- 5% Man Utd 2:0 Newcastle
- 4% Man Utd 1:1 Newcastle
- 3% Man Utd 0:1 Newcastle
- 3% Man Utd 0:3 Newcastle
- 3% Man Utd 3:1 Newcastle
- 2% Man Utd 2:3 Newcastle
- 2% Man Utd 3:2 Newcastle
- 1% Man Utd 0:4 Newcastle
- 1% Man Utd 0:6 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 4:1 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 2:2 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 3:0 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 1:5 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 0:9 Newcastle
- 0% Man Utd 4:0 Newcastle
Match Stats
- Man Utd
- Newcastle
- Possession
- 62% 38%
- Shots
- 13 10
- Shots on Target
- 2 5
- Corners
- 5 2
- Fouls
- 16 9
Man Utd Lineup
-
-
-
-
-
replaced by Aaron Wan-Bissaka
-
-
replaced by Sofyan Amrabat
-
replaced by Bruno Fernandes
-
replaced by Rasmus Hojlund
-
replaced by Marcus Rashford
-
