[NinjaZombie]

City are a team built to be frontrunners, the gifted first goal made a huge difference to their game.

Exactly. We were in it up till then. Maybe could've converted one of our counters and made a game out of it. Once City went up, that was it. Their quality compared to ours, plus our injuries meant it was a foregone conclusion from the moment Haaland put that ball in the net.

Still annoys me how he still persists on playing Bruno on the right. Caused a lot of problem there. Silva and Grealish had overloads all day.

 

[R'hllor]

I would take Ole back at this point. We used to get a result against City under him.

I wouldnt touch that Bermuda triangle from Norway with a barge pool

 

[Heardy]

Honestly can’t remember the last time I really enjoyed a united game having been impressed by their performance.

Dogshit performance after dogshit performance.

 

[Dec9003]

City are better than us not sure what some expected to be honest, it's not difficult to see our injuries at the back are killing us, I'll net EthH didn't expect to have to play Evans in games like this let alone the FB issues

He didn’t have to play Evans, he didn’t have to play Lindelof at fullback. Reguilon and Varane were on the bench, this excuse cannot keep going.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

Defence is in tatters for various reason, midfield there is no bite. No tackler in there or someone who can break up play. Forwards too busy looking for glory themselves. Hojlund makes run after run and Rashford and Bruno ignore him more often than not. We need people who can beat a man get to that touchline and pull the ball back. Garnacho is the only one who looks like he could be that player.

 

[Denis79]

Crazy when a 0-3 defeat at home is "not too bad". That's how I feel at the moment . Man expectations are low...

 

[mitchmouse]

Bernado Silva lying: he just said it was difficult to come to OT an win

 

[Gavinb33]

He didn’t have to play Evans, he didn’t have to play Lindelof at fullback. Reguilon and Varane were on the bench, this excuse cannot keep going.

What does that tell you Varane is likely not fit to play 90 mins, these are facts not excuses it's clear to see take 4 of any PL clubs 1st choice defense they'll struggle

 

[FrenchRed]

No plan, no structure, playing like strangers, totally unlikeable. I’ve had it with this team. I’ve watched since the early 80s and never felt this lack of interest and actual animosity to one of our teams. I actively dislike their attitude, lack of effort and total disinterest they seem to have in playing football.

I so wanted ETH to be the one to get us back to where we should be, but I’ve lost all faith in him. Terrible selections, totally bizarre subs, zero tactical changes. Pi$$ed a stack of money up the wall on terrible players.

ETH out for me, as soon as possible. I’ll not watch again this season as I am so disillusioned by the circus we’ve become at every level.

 

[davidmichael]

Lindelof at left back when Regulion is fit and a much better player, Eriksen as a defensive midfielder when it’s known he doesn’t have the engine, Fernandes wise right when he has zero pace or dribbling ability and Rashford playing when he’s so out of form he’s non existent is just the problems from the start of the game.

Taking off Amrabat when he’s our only defensively disciplined midfielder then expecting a duo of McTominay and Eriksen would cut it against arguably the best side on the planet, not taking Rashford off, not bringing Garnacho on much earlier and keeping Fernandes as wide right until we’re 3-0 down are just further decisions that were ridiculous.

I’ve been a massive ETH fan for a few years and was desperate for him to take us over but he’s so fecking stubborn he can’t admit his wrong decisions and persists even if it costs us, he shouldn’t be allowed any more money until he does something with what he’s spent and if he keeps making the same ridiculous decisions then he deserves to go and has no one but himself to blame.

 

[mitchmouse]

Defence is in tatters for various reason, midfield there is no bite. No tackler in there or someone who can break up play. Forwards too busy looking for glory themselves. Hojlund makes run after run and Rashford and Bruno ignore him more often than not. We need people who can beat a man get to that touchline and pull the ball back. Garnacho is the only one who looks like he could be that player.

absolutely agree about garnacho. I wish he got the endless chances to impress that Rashford and Bruno get (and fail to take)

 

[Dec9003]

What does that tell you Varane is likely not fit to play 90 mins, these are facts not excuses it's clear to see take 4 of any PL clubs 1st choice defense they'll struggle

He literally said it is for tactical reasons, these are his words.

 

[neon_badger]

That midfield is infuriating, and Ten Hags management of it even more so, there was a Fred shaped hole today, playing the second half without an actual defensive midfielder was suicide, playing with three number 10s that are all below average was bizarre.

 

[Siorac]

Several people described well in advance how this match would go. It was predictable.

 

[PieCrust]

As expected.

 

[2 man midfield]

Even when we had better players than city they’d give it a fecking good go. We just don’t look bothered.

 

[Lash]

Bruno and Rashford as senior players, were an absolute disgrace. The former the absolute worst of the bunch.

An absolute joke of a VAR decision, but everyone seemed to use that as an excuse to give up.

Overall looking at the lineup I thought we'd get battered with that CB pairing and I actually thought considering, they didn't do too bad.

Hard to take a single positive in that performance, just going to have to move the feck on.

 

[Murder on Zidanes Floor]

So predictable.
What annoys me is our build up from the back through midfield. We look so static and out of options.
Then you have forwards fluffing the few chances we make.

No one moves

 

[Galactic]

Let’s get this out of the way as quick as possible. It is what it is.

 

[Slevs]

Defence is in tatters for various reason, midfield there is no bite. No tackler in there or someone who can break up play. Forwards too busy looking for glory themselves. Hojlund makes run after run and Rashford and Bruno ignore him more often than not. We need people who can beat a man get to that touchline and pull the ball back. Garnacho is the only one who looks like he could be that player.

I've been saying this for the last 3 years. We have no one that can run at people and cause havoc consistently for 90 minutes. Every other team has that 1 or 2 wingers that constantly beat their man all game.

 

[Buster15]

Bernado Silva lying: he just said it was difficult to come to OT an win

He is trying to be kind.

 

[gearoid]

Without a good performance from Onana, that could have been 8. The walls are closing in on EtH as I don’t see how we are going to get any better any time soon. Personally I’d drop Bruno and Rashford but he’ll never do that.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

absolutely agree about garnacho. I wish he got the endless chances to impress that Rashford and Bruno get (and fail to take)

I think Garnacho and Hojlund could build up a good understanding. Also like it when Eriksen plays Hojlund through. The lad either needs to run onto balls or get onto the type of ball Garnacho can put in. We always seem to end up resorting to just putting dinked crosses into the box, no whip, no power, no pulled back balls.

 

[Lentwood]

You know, I never wanted to lose Bruno, Rashford etc but I'm happy too now.

It's more fear of "where would we be without them". Well Spurs thought that with Kane and now they're singing pretty.

Get the toxic mess out of the club.

This is why we never really improve or move on. We have picked the wrong individuals to build the team around and we still don't understand the profile of a top Premier League player in each position.

I quite like Bruno but when he's bad, he's awful, and we're not a side at the moment that can accommodate an inconsistent., mercurial footballer.

Rashford is rubbish. I'm not going to go down the 'I told you so' route, but I have posts on here going back 5+ years saying he's nowhere near the level he's been built up to be - but the club desperately needed/wanted a local lad to put front and centre for feelgood factor/PR.

On transfers, we've bought in a number of CBs over the last few seasons and yet have still not cottoned on to the idea that having one who doesn't move at the speed of a turtle reversing would be an advantage. Maguire is slow, Lindelof is slow, Varane now looks slow, Evans is slow and Martinez is slow.

Similarly in midfield, whilst our rivals sign big, powerful, athletic specimens, we're bringing in Casemiro, who's the wrong side of 30 and looks like he spent pre-season drinking only gravy, and Eriksen who has many attributes - but none of them physical.

Physical attributes are non-negotiable in the modern game. The first questions I would ask of any potential signing are "is this lad in the top 20% for pace, strength, workrate and stamina". If the answer is 'no' to any of those then it's a non-starter

 

[TrustInJanuzaj]

I just hope we make top 4 somehow. It’s looking very tough given how we’re playing,

Who even cares. We aren’t winning it anyway. Pointless being in it or even worrying about it.

 

[El Zoido]

That midfield is infuriating, and Ten Hags management of it even more so, there was a Fred shaped hole today, playing the second half without an actual defensive midfielder was suicide, playing with three number 10s that are all below average was bizarre.

We really miss Fred.

 

[Ole'sgunnarwin]

To be fair, he obviously isn't and there are years of evidence for that. And I don't even think he can turn this around.
But if anyone thinks that getting the next guy in line will yield to anything else than a short-term manager bounce (if that), he's in for a rude awakening.
This club needs to be purged. Literally. Rotten to the core.

Great, let's keep him and enjoy si

To be fair, he obviously isn't and there are years of evidence for that. And I don't even think he can turn this around.
But if anyone thinks that getting the next guy in line will yield to anything else than a short-term manager bounce (if that), he's in for a rude awakening.
This club needs to be purged. Literally. Rotten to the core.

He is. No good coach takes off Amrabat and puts back McTominay in his position. McTominay hasn't got a defensive bone in his body. Let's players run off him, left, right and centre. There's more.a chance of turning this around without Ten Hag than with.

 

[DomesticTadpole]

David May in MUTV studio not happy. Danny Webber isn't either to be honest.

 

[lex talionis]

William Tecumseh Sherman would be proud.

 

[TomSkalle]

Ill vote for Ole in as interim manager at this point

 

[Irwin99]

We can moan about the incredibly soft penalty all we want (and it was ridiculous) but the lack of technical ability and physicalty in this side is frightening. I mean, how anyone can watch that and think we'll win anything of note with these players.

Problems go way back to the Jose era. Lack of technical ability and bang average players (mctominay) .

 

[mitchmouse]

Mike Dean remains what he was when he refereed: a cnut

 

[kiristao]

What does that tell you Varane is likely not fit to play 90 mins, these are facts not excuses it's clear to see take 4 of any PL clubs 1st choice defense they'll struggle

I agree we are struggling defensively but the midfield and forward is missing only Casimero yet we barely looked like we could string a couple of passes together. Also if this performance was only against City, no one would complain. We are struggling to create against pretty much any team.

 

[pacifictheme]

Completely outplayed.

 

[Swearing Budgie]

The worst thing for me is I can’t even hate these City players because they seem like a decent buncholads.

 

[OleGunnar20]

It makes me sad to think that this doesn't even feel like a bad result now, with that shambolic squad we put out today especially.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Changing managers, buying the next big name, none of it is going to really have a long term effect.

The club is rotten to its core. Its a money making machine that has a sideline in football, and until that changes, and becomes a football first organization, nothing and no one will make a difference.

Complete sale was our only chance.

 

[Bristol_Red_87]

We're in a flux. I'm starting to lose faith with Ten Haag. His decisions today were baffling and I can't tell you one player that has improved.

But everyone knows it runs much deeper so what's the point in replacing him?

The best we could hope for is a new manager bounce which seems to be a hallmark for this squad, before we find ourselves back here this time next season?

 

[Chumpsbechumps]

It’s mad that every player and manager we sign seems to fall apart at United. That United seems to uniquely destroy everything it touches.

But this manager needs to go, he’s clearly not good enough to run a dumping facility, we need somebody with experience at shovelling more sh*t through a toxic waste factory.

And somebody who can also do a nixer job on the roof. Deal with sexual harassment issues. Sad player issues. Owner issues. Lack of infrastructure compared to rivals issues. Legacy mish mash squad issues. Transfer i

And maybe the least important is managing the squad.

Our clubs a mess and some of you think there’s any manager out there who can make this work. Seriously?

“Yeh but most other top clubs would sack….” Most other top clubs don’t CONSISTENTLY have the exact same problems that we do without fixing them. Why do we end up in the exact same spot with every f**king manager if replacing the manager is the answer?

I’m fully with ETH, I don’t think we have had an unluckier manager.

 

[Von Mistelroum]

The truly sad thing is that, not only are we Nowhere near City, there's no light at the end of the tunnel for many years.

We would need a complete squad overhaul in order to be able to compete, as our entire squad is way below the required level.

Our 'talisman' players are the likes of Rashford and Bruno who wouldn't make the City bench and who pale in comparison to relative journeymen in our heyday such as Valencia and Nani, let alone our actual top players back then. But these are our untouchable 'stars' these days. No manager will be dropping them, so until they retire they'll be our 'top stars'.

We're in a downward spiral and I think we have quite a drop still to go with the impending incoming extra Glazer.