[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

Not sure if this angle has been shared on here yet but it's probably my favourite out of all the clips I've rewatched dozens of times.

Nice… I think the official Emirates FA one from behind Onana goals is still my favourite but that’s good too.

Every time I watch an angle from the Stretford end, I notice the Liverpool defender just pause/go one way before then trying to go back the other way and block Amads shot. I think he thought Amad was going to cut back inside so was wary of going all in… cost him

 

[top1whoisman]

The heart was willing for McTominay but the flesh was saying no. He had jelly legs making that run.

Indeed

But that’s what you have to sometimes do win matches.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Nice… I think the official Emirates FA one from behind Onana goals is still my favourite but that’s good too.

Every time I watch an angle from the Stretford end, I notice the Liverpool defender just pause/go one way before then trying to go back the other way and block Amads shot. I think he thought Amad was going to cut back inside so was wary of going all in… cost him

The cynic in me originally thought Garnacho intentionally weighted his pass in that way so Amad would be forced to square it back to him, but Amad was like 'nah, I've got this'. Then I remember Garnacho had been running non-stop for 120 minutes so I probably shouldn't be reading too much into the weight of his pass.

 

[The Brown Bull]

The cynic in me originally thought Garnacho intentionally weighted his pass in that way so Amad would be forced to square it back to him, but Amad was like 'nah, I've got this'. Then I remember Garnacho had been running non-stop for 120 minutes so I probably shouldn't be reading too much into the weight of his pass.

Definitely not! Garnacho did extremely well just to run 50 yards with the ball at that pace. The pass was slightly behind Diallo but boy did he finish.

 

[The Brown Bull]

Up till last Sunday I thought United / Liverpool 's 85 FA Cup semi was the greatest I had seen.Not so sure anymore.

 

[Leethal]

The cynic in me originally thought Garnacho intentionally weighted his pass in that way so Amad would be forced to square it back to him, but Amad was like 'nah, I've got this'. Then I remember Garnacho had been running non-stop for 120 minutes so I probably shouldn't be reading too much into the weight of his pass.

Ah yes. In the heat of the moment, while on a counterattack and with the score 3-3 in the 120th minute of a knockout game, Garnacho carefully considered the weight of his pass to execute it in such a way to ensure he receives the ball back.

That’s not being cynical at all; more like it’s just an utterly absurd and ridiculous thing to even enter your train of thought at all.

 

[calodo2003]

Just had a guy from Salford dine with us tonight, he was wearing a Salford FC t shirt. We reminisced about the game for a good ten minutes. Buzzing all over again.

 

[tenpoless]

Yesterday I was buzzing
Today I am buzzing
Tomorrow I'll be buzzing again until we get twatted by some other fussball team.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Ah yes. In the heat of the moment, while on a counterattack and with the score 3-3 in the 120th minute of a knockout game, Garnacho carefully considered the weight of his pass to execute it in such a way to ensure he receives the ball back.

That’s not being cynical at all; more like it’s just an utterly absurd and ridiculous thing to even enter your train of thought at all.

Well it sounds like this may be news to you but in case you weren't already aware - PL footballers make up a very minuscule percentage of the population. They are athletes who are capable of doing things that ordinary folk like you and I are unable to execute. Hence why they get paid top dollar. So yes - it is reasonable to assume that an elite athlete like Garnacho possesses the ability to carefully consider and execute a well-weighted pass in the 120th minute of a football match. Nevertheless, as I clearly stated, I don't believe his pass was intentionally weighted in such a way. Weird thing to get agitated about.

 

[Leethal]

Well it sounds like this may be news to you but in case you weren't already aware - PL footballers make up a very minuscule percentage of the population. They are athletes who are capable of doing things that ordinary folk like you and I are unable to execute. Hence why they get paid top dollar. So yes - it is reasonable to assume that an elite athlete like Garnacho possesses the ability to carefully consider and execute a well-weighted pass in the 120th minute of a football match. Nevertheless, as I clearly stated, I don't believe his pass was intentionally weighted in such a way. Weird thing to get agitated about.

You’re missing the point. I didn’t say he was incapable of making the pass, but I think the notion that you even considered the fact that he intentionally played it in such a way to force Diallo into passing it back, is absolutely fecking absurd. Typical of the modern armchair critic, though. Always micro-analysing.

 

[Desert Eagle]

You’re missing the point. I didn’t say he was incapable of making the pass, but I think the notion that you even considered the fact that he intentionally played it in such a way to force Diallo into passing it back, is absolutely fecking absurd. Typical of the modern armchair critic, though. Always micro-analysing.

In a 2 v 1 it's actually a reasonable option to play for a one two that removes the defender from the equation. The weight and timing of pass to release the fellow attacker to shoot and to have the option of a pass back can be different. Its not as cynical as it seems just a regular football play.

For what it's worth I think because he held the ball so long he was probably thinking pass for amad to get a shot but it was a tiny bit underhit so amad had to improvise.

 

[tenpoless]

So elephant in the room. Van Dijk made mistakes again but let's pretend he is one of, if not the best PL defender of all time :
1. Late when closing in on Garnacho and too late to block his pass which resulted in 1st goal
2. When Antony did his spin and shot, it was a tame one (not powerful) and Van Dijk was positioned well to block it but instead of blocking he kicked the air and missed the ball entirely, resulted in 2nd goal
3. Lost Rashford from McTominay's through pass, he was too slow again and looked kind of unsure, resulted in 3rd goal
4. After Rashford received the ball from Eriksen and played it into McTominay he was in a no man's land. Almost resulted in a goal
5. Last (winning) goal is the same, he was nowhere to be seen

Only 32 years old. But let's pretend 32 is the new 55 shall we? it's normal for a 32 y.o CB to make that many mistakes in a match. He's old man, give him some slack. If it was Maguire people would criticize him to no end (who is 31 by the way and is getting better than worse?). And most importantly, Van Dijk is a dick. It's that simple. I can never understand why some United fans like him so much.

The day when he turns 35, playing for a struggling team with mediocre talents under a new manager that isn't Klopp is when I'd be sipping on them Scousers' tears when they finally turn against him. Then we'll see if they are still talking about how he was nominated for Bollox Ond'floor.

 

[Gator Nate]

So elephant in the room. Van Dijk made mistakes again but let's pretend he is one of, if not the best PL defender of all time :
1. Late when closing in on Garnacho and too late to block his pass which resulted in 1st goal
2. When Antony did his spin and shot, it was a tame one (not powerful) and Van Dijk was positioned well to block it but instead of blocking he kicked the air and missed the ball entirely, resulted in 2nd goal
3. Lost Rashford from McTominay's through pass, he was too slow again and looked kind of unsure, resulted in 3rd goal
4. After Rashford received the ball from Eriksen and played it into McTominay he was in a no man's land. Almost resulted in a goal
5. Last (winning) goal is the same, he was nowhere to be seen

Only 32 years old. But let's pretend 32 is the new 55 shall we? it's normal for a 32 y.o CB to make that many mistakes in a match. He's old man, give him some slack. If it was Maguire people would criticize him to no end (who is 31 by the way and is getting better than worse?). And most importantly, Van Dijk is a dick. It's that simple. I can never understand why some United fans like him so much.

The day when he turns 35, playing for a struggling team with mediocre talents under a new manager that isn't Klopp is when I'd be sipping on them Scousers' tears when they finally turn against him. Then we'll see if they are still talking about how he was nominated for Bollox Ond'floor.

Perfect, but you left out the camera shots of him after all the goals looking around at everyone else, gesticulating and complaining that they were at fault.

 

[Leethal]

In a 2 v 1 it's actually a reasonable option to play for a one two that removes the defender from the equation. The weight and timing of pass to release the fellow attacker to shoot and to have the option of a pass back can be different. Its not as cynical as it seems just a regular football play.

For what it's worth I think because he held the ball so long he was probably thinking pass for amad to get a shot but it was a tiny bit underhit so amad had to improvise.

The OP stated that he was being cynical in his viewpoint, which insinuates he believed that there was something nefarious behind Garnacho’s pass.

 

[Desert Eagle]

So elephant in the room. Van Dijk made mistakes again but let's pretend he is one of, if not the best PL defender of all time :
1. Late when closing in on Garnacho and too late to block his pass which resulted in 1st goal
2. When Antony did his spin and shot, it was a tame one (not powerful) and Van Dijk was positioned well to block it but instead of blocking he kicked the air and missed the ball entirely, resulted in 2nd goal
3. Lost Rashford from McTominay's through pass, he was too slow again and looked kind of unsure, resulted in 3rd goal
4. After Rashford received the ball from Eriksen and played it into McTominay he was in a no man's land. Almost resulted in a goal
5. Last (winning) goal is the same, he was nowhere to be seen

Only 32 years old. But let's pretend 32 is the new 55 shall we? it's normal for a 32 y.o CB to make that many mistakes in a match. He's old man, give him some slack. If it was Maguire people would criticize him to no end (who is 31 by the way and is getting better than worse?). And most importantly, Van Dijk is a dick. It's that simple. I can never understand why some United fans like him so much.

The day when he turns 35, playing for a struggling team with mediocre talents under a new manager that isn't Klopp is when I'd be sipping on them Scousers' tears when they finally turn against him. Then we'll see if they are still talking about how he was nominated for Bollox Ond'floor.

It's good for us this scouse delusion. Like late years gerrard they can keep sucking him off while he costs the team more and more each year.

 

[Swearing Budgie]

Footy!

 

[Darkhorsez]

Rewatched the whole game last night. Watched it live in a pub with pool supporter friends and really did not pay full attention. For 3 of our goals, I was in the toilet! After the first one, I went to the toilet 5 other times hoping for us to score. I told a few Utd fans this and they were insisting I should just stay there all the time
I was visiting my mom for a 10 days visit and I am back home now. Bought a couple of newspapers to keep reports on the match. It was an amazing match that threw me back to SAF days.

 

[MadDogg]

Rewatched the whole game last night. Watched it live in a pub with pool supporter friends and really did not pay full attention. For 3 of our goals, I was in the toilet! After the first one, I went to the toilet 5 other times hoping for us to score. I told a few Utd fans this and they were insisting I should just stay there all the time
I was visiting my mom for a 10 days visit and I am back home now. Bought a couple of newspapers to keep reports on the match. It was an amazing match that threw me back to SAF days.

From now on, just spend the entire game in the toilet.

 

[top1whoisman]

From now on, just spend the entire game in the toilet.

Or the whole season?

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

You’re missing the point. I didn’t say he was incapable of making the pass, but I think the notion that you even considered the fact that he intentionally played it in such a way to force Diallo into passing it back, is absolutely fecking absurd. Typical of the modern armchair critic, though. Always micro-analysing.

The OP stated that he was being cynical in his viewpoint, which insinuates he believed that there was something nefarious behind Garnacho’s pass.

Nothing 'absurd' or 'nefarious' about. Being initially cynical about a moment of joy is part and parcel of being a football fan. If you spent less time frothing at the mouth about how United fans internalise great moments then you might have a better overall fan experience. Until then, enjoy furiously typing away on your keyboard about such trivial matters, and try not to work up too much of a sweat doing it because you're clearly highly strung.

 

[redmanx]

Not for sale at any price. He danced through the Liverpool midfield, he felt no pressure having 3 or 4 opponents harry him. He’s going to be world class. He will anchor our midfield for next decade.

Ten Hag’s final formation makes the craziest manager seem like a traditionalist.

I liked Keane stamping on Gareth Southgate’s ribs too.

Mitchmouse you gotta believe. Everything you said I agree with.

Every single player in our team earned praise from the fans. They all gave everything they had. It makes me feel dirty for criticizing any of them. They clearly care, they clearly want to play for this manager and the fans. Every single United player was a legend.

The criticism they've had is well justified as at times they've been worse than bad and too many of them really didnt seem to give a rats, the attitudes of some have been utterly contemptuous of the club and the supporters. Yes they all performed heroics against Liverpool and based on that game nobody can complain, but how many times this season have we seen a very good performance followed by crap? How many times have certain players given performances and displays of work ethics etc only to play shite like they dont care the next? We have, or rather they have 12 matches left to redeem something from this terrible season; 10 Premiership games to at least finish as close to CL qualification as possible, 5th at best Id say, and 2 FA Cup matches. The very least we should accept, supporters and players, is 5th in the Prem and runners up in the Cup, and though its better than we could have hoped for pre Liverpool, its nowhere near good enough, and that has been the problem all season regarding our players, theyve been nowhere near good enough. So, now they have to prove that they do care, that they do want to play for Manchester United, not just in the big games, though every game is a big game for us, but every game, giving their all, playing with skill, style and passion....thats the only way the criticism and accusations that they dont care will stop.

 

[The Brown Bull]

Talking of passes McT's pass to Rashy for the 3rd was perfect. An easy pass to get wrong.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Here is the link to full match

Thank you!

 

[Leethal]

Nothing 'absurd' or 'nefarious' about. Being initially cynical about a moment of joy is part and parcel of being a football fan. If you spent less time frothing at the mouth about how United fans internalise great moments then you might have a better overall fan experience. Until then, enjoy furiously typing away on your keyboard about such trivial matters, and try not to work up too much of a sweat doing it because you're clearly highly strung.

When your (you), first instinct is to consider that Garnacho played a pass a particular way to ensure he received the ball back, so that he could bask in the glory of scoring a 120th minute winner against our bitter rivals, well…… I dunno what to say, except that is an absolutely fecking absurd notion.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

When your (you), first instinct is to consider that Garnacho played a pass a particular way to ensure he received the ball back, so that he could bask in the glory of scoring a 120th minute winner against our bitter rivals, well…… I dunno what to say, except that is an absolutely fecking absurd notion.

When did I say I thought he did it for the glory of scoring the winner? Initially I thought he did it because he would be in a better position to score than Amad if he were to receive the ball back via a 1:2.

Man, I'm glad I'm not sat next to someone like you at OT.

Me, after a celebrating a last minute winner: "I thought he might've been looking for the 1:2 there!"

Leethal: "YOU WHAT?! You really think that little of Garnacho?! That is absurd! Nefarious!"

Chill out, go for a walk, and try to find a better way to spend your time than raging at someone on the internet over something so trivial.

 

[Leethal]

When did I say I thought he did it for the glory of scoring the winner? Initially I thought he did it because he would be in a better position to score than Amad if he were to receive the ball back via a 1:2.

Man, I'm glad I'm not sat next to someone like you at OT.

Me, after a celebrating a last minute winner: "I thought he might've been looking for the 1:2 there!"

Leethal: "YOU WHAT?! You really think that little of Garnacho?! That is absurd! Nefarious!"

Chill out, go for a walk, and try to find a better way to spend your time than raging at someone on the internet over something so trivial.

Stop talking absolute bollocks.

What did you mean by the “cynic in you”, then?

What’s cynical about playing a 1:2?

You’re the one that needs to go outside. I just merely pointed out the absurd comments of a shit-talking micro-analysing armchair critic. And you don’t like it. Because that armchair critic is you.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

Stop talking absolute bollocks.

What did you mean by the “cynic in you”, then?

What’s cynical about playing a 1:2?

You’re the one that needs to go outside. I just merely pointed out the absurd comments of a shit-talking micro-analysing armchair critic. And you don’t like it. Because that armchair critic is you.

I thought it was cynical of me to initially think Garnacho's assist could've been weighted better, rather than simply embracing the beauty of a last minute goal.

Man, you're an strange fella. Are you on the spectrum? Genuine question.

 

[Desert Eagle]

For what it's worth Garnacho was looking for the pass back. If you look at the replay of the goal between 2:12:24 and 2:12:27 he makes a motion with his hands saying pass it back.

 

[Gabriel Djemba-Bebe]

For what it's worth Garnacho was looking for the pass back. If you look at the replay of the goal between 2:12:24 and 2:12:27 he makes a motion with his hands saying pass it back.

How dare you. That is abusurd. Nefarious, I may add.

 

[Stig]

In a 2 v 1 it's actually a reasonable option to play for a one two that removes the defender from the equation. The weight and timing of pass to release the fellow attacker to shoot and to have the option of a pass back can be different. Its not as cynical as it seems just a regular football play.

For what it's worth I think because he held the ball so long he was probably thinking pass for amad to get a shot but it was a tiny bit underhit so amad had to improvise.

In his post match interview Amad said his first thought was to give it back to Ganacho but couldn't make the pass so shot.

 

[Desert Eagle]

In his post match interview Amad said his first thought was to give it back to Ganacho but couldn't make the pass so shot.

Yeah and after watching the replay 300 times, i saw a hand motion which makes it clear garnacho was playing for the pass back. Great instinct and improvisation from Amad. It's the little things which show his talent and football iq. Really hope we get to see him get a run in this team.

 

[DJ_21]

Yeah and after watching the replay 300 times, i saw a hand motion which makes it clear garnacho was playing for the pass back. Great instinct and improvisation from Amad. It's the little things which show his talent and football iq. Really hope we get to see him get a run in this team.

I’ve watched it back so many times and I also like how he tricked the defender, if you look carefully you’ll see the defender move the opposite direction and then amad brought it on the outside so he had a decent shot with his favoured left foot. Smart player.

 

[Desert Eagle]

I’ve watched it back so many times and I also like how he tricked the defender, if you look carefully you’ll see the defender move the opposite direction and then amad brought it on the outside so he had a decent shot with his favoured left foot. Smart player.

Yup because the pass is short he almost fakes the pass back to Garnacho before opening up and pushing it outside to get that space and then the perfectly placed finish.

 

[BazzaBear]

Love the energy and determination of both McTominay and Rashford with 120 minutes in their legs

As if it wasn't already hard enough - did he have to barge the ref out of his way too?

 

[Zlatan 7]

You’re missing the point. I didn’t say he was incapable of making the pass, but I think the notion that you even considered the fact that he intentionally played it in such a way to force Diallo into passing it back, is absolutely fecking absurd. Typical of the modern armchair critic, though. Always micro-analysing.

Mctominay always does this

 

[miliebrowndivorceattorney]

I'm still EXTREMELY HAPPY!! Hello mr. Klopp! Goodbye mr. Klopp! Tjuuus. Auf Wiedersehen! And all of you LFC people. Bye!! Have some tea and a cookie.

 

[BeforeKeanetherewasRobson]

As if it wasn't already hard enough - did he have to barge the ref out of his way too?

I think that was for the previous 119 minutes refereeing performance

 

[Shane88]

A bad result going into an international break is always horrible. Having to sit and stew in those feelings. Must be grim being a Liverpool fan for the last week and continuously seeing Amad send Bradley to the shops with a shimmy and then seeing his shot inch past Kelleher and trickle inside the post.

 

[Buchan]

Must be grim being a Liverpool fan for the last week and continuously seeing Amad send Bradley to the shops with a shimmy and then seeing his shot inch past Kelleher and trickle inside the post.

There hasn’t been enough made about Bradley’s shocking defending for Diallo’s goal, nor van Dijk’s influence on same. We have all pin-pointed van Dijk’s bizarre reluctance to challenge opponents who dribble at him and how he rarely looks to block shots or crosses, and it appears Bradley has been paying too much attention to the Dutchman. Van Dijk did it with Sissoko of Spurs a couple of seasons ago at Anfield and was bizarrely lauded for Sissoko launching the ball into the stands from a glorious position. Van Dijk made no attempt to tackle and allowed Sissoko dribble unopposed into the box to have a free shot at goal and this is exactly the same mistake Bradley made last week.

If Bradley makes a tackle there, it’s highly likely the match goes to penalties. Any sort of tackle whatsoever: a shoulder barge, a rugby tackle, a studs-up challenge… literally any sort of tackle either clears the ball or fouls Garnacho or Diallo, which pretty much ends the game. It is ridiculous defending and high time pundits and the like start calling it out. Literally anyone can do that and defending as such has propped up van Dijk’s reputation for the last five seasons, which is inexplicable really.

 

[Leethal]

How dare you. That is abusurd. Nefarious, I may add.

He was looking for a pass back, sure. Why wouldn’t he? It would be stupid to not to provide the option. But to entertain the thought that he gave Amad a pass in such a way to force the ball back to him for self-serving purposes is ridiculous; which is what you insinuated with you “cynical view” of the pass.

Accept it. Accept the fact you made a stupid comment, instead of tagging on to every other comment made by others and incorporating them into your defensive narrative to add strength to your shitty argument. I’m done with you, last comment - so go on, have your last word.