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Crystal Palace 2:3 Manchester United

Post-match discussion


Mon, 05 March 2018

I think people slating us for beating a "poor Palace" need to take another look at them. Yes they're in a relegation dogfight, but they've only lost to Spurs, Southampton and Arsenal at home under Hodgson this season - and all those by a single goal. They were a missed penalty away from beating City and beat Chelsea. They are very difficult to beat at home and with their electrifying support a lot of teams are intimidated.
 
[QUOTE="Irrational., post: 22255003, member: 61537"]I think people slating us for beating a "poor Palace" need to take another look at them. Yes they're in a relegation dogfight, but they've only lost to Spurs, Southampton and Arsenal at home under Hodgson this season - and all those by a single goal. They were a missed penalty away from beating City and beat Chelsea. They are very difficult to beat at home and with their electrifying support a lot of teams are intimidated.[/QUOTE]
It's the only fun they can have in the circumstances. After all, they had their fingers poised over "write your reply" only to be thwarted, and disappointed, by the Fergie era type comeback. :devil:
 
We were very poor in the first half; I don't understand why we can't start a match as we finish it. Some of the passing was worse than a Sunday pub side but we were pretty damn fun to watch in the final 40 minutes and strangely I only began to think we'd get a goal after we went two down. Pogba really needs to get hold of games like these and dominate, Sanchez needs to stop looking so sulky, Smalling is not United class and for the millionth time i say we need "real" fullbacks. Positives: Lukaku's goal was one of his best for us: so cool, so patient when others had been snatching at shots, Mata and Rashford changed everything and Matic did something i dreamt about last week: score a goal for us like the ones he used to score for Chelsea
 
I don’t think the result made his thread look foolish at all. The first 50 minutes of that game was probably the worst we have played in the last 5 seasons including under Moyes.
The comeback was epic and brought me to my feet screaming like a lunatic but there are 2 things to remember. It’s Palace and in the end they ran out of steam. When they did attack us they cut through us like a knife through butter. If not for that save from DDG we probably would have been 3-2 down before we could go 2-3 up. He still had a poor game though along with most of our top players.
Yes it was a great result but the performance was shocking.

Well, yeah, not going to argue most of your points, but the «it’s not knee-jerk» disclamer made it very foolish in my mind. The fact that the first half was bad like nothing I’ve seen this season kind of reinforced that point.

If you want to argue semantics and what ifs, Matic had a shot saved on the line, and Sanchez could’ve scored early on, forcing Palace to abandon their original tactics. Also, de Gea could definitely have saved their second goal imo.

So there!
 
Well, yeah, not going to argue most of your points, but the «it’s not knee-jerk» disclamer made it very foolish in my mind. The fact that the first half was bad like nothing I’ve seen this season kind of reinforced that point.

If you want to argue semantics and what ifs, Matic had a shot saved on the line, and Sanchez could’ve scored early on, forcing Palace to abandon their original tactics. Also, de Gea could definitely have saved their second goal imo.

So there!
I did say that apart from the save I thought he had a poor game.

Truth be told I'm still finding it hard to find someone to give MoM to. I'd give it to Mata but was he really on long enough.
 
I did say that apart from the save I thought he had a poor game.

Truth be told I'm still finding it hard to find someone to give MoM to. I'd give it to Mata but was he really on long enough.
I will when I get around to it. He didn’t make any mistakes that I can remember, and compared to the rest he looked a prime Iniesta. Emphasis on the comparing part. I said as much yesterday, that he was the biggest reason we managed to pin them back, effectively from the moment he stepped on. Keeping the ball moving all over their half of the pitch, and not losing it with sloppy passing and needless take-ons down blind alleys.
 
We showed heart and determination, something we've not shown enough of this season. Fantastic result in the end.
The second half was the United of old, guts, character and never say die!
 
I did say that apart from the save I thought he had a poor game.

Truth be told I'm still finding it hard to find someone to give MoM to. I'd give it to Mata but was he really on long enough.

I was torn between Mata and Rashford as they both made an equally significant impact when they came on. Don't think any of the original 11 that started the game deserved the award.
 
Uhuh. please tell me you arent really Irish but just live here?

Jesus if your ashamed of someone being Irish over a forum post you disagree with you must have some serious issues with the rest of the population.
 
Nice to get the win in the end. I wish we would show that urgency and intensity at the start of games though! We start like that against Liverpool we will lose!

Need every player to be up for it Saturday!
 
Phenomenal comeback win but there are some serious issues in the squad to be honest. Probably the worst performance in a comeback win I have ever seen. Missed passes all over the park. Bickering and arguing amongst the players. Great on them for not lying down and accepting defeat but something is awry in the squad. We might be able to come back against Palace but go down a couple of goals to Liverpool or Sevilla and we will be out of the CL and trying to hold on to a top 4 spot. Hopefully this will be the catalyst to get us going again.
 
I think people slating us for beating a "poor Palace" need to take another look at them. Yes they're in a relegation dogfight, but they've only lost to Spurs, Southampton and Arsenal at home under Hodgson this season - and all those by a single goal. They were a missed penalty away from beating City and beat Chelsea. They are very difficult to beat at home and with their electrifying support a lot of teams are intimidated.

Totally agree, Crystal Palace at home is stronger, if we consider Chelsea lost and Spurs won by the minimum. Beyond the fact that they are in the relegation zone, in their stadium they become a very tough opponent.
 
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I was torn between Mata and Rashford as they both made an equally significant impact when they came on. Don't think any of the original 11 that started the game deserved the award.

Agree. I'd probably go with Rashford as his introduction after the half provided the necessary thrust to stretch their defense. He still didn't provide that much end product, but his willingness to attack with the ball at his feet changed the character of the game, even before the 2nd CP goal.

If I had to give it to a starting player, I think I'd give it to Smalling. Yeah, he was culpable for the second goal, but his header helped jumpstart the comeback and thought he played rather well defensively.
 
Bringing Mata and Rashford on, and moving Lingard as a RB was really spotted on by Mourinho.
The first half was horrible, one of the worst ones we've played this season. However, the character and passion we showed in the second half was remarkable. As many of you said here, if we play like the way we did the first half against Liverpool, we'll get hammered.

Just wanna see Pogba more committed and show why he is a world class MD
 
For the first time since December, 2013, United came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 and for the first time in history, Mourinho recovered from a two-goal deficit to claim all three points in a Premier League game

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....man-utd-fixtures-palace-mourinho-14372348.amp

Is the bolded part true? It can't be, surely a manager who has won 3 PL Titles has made a comeback from 2-0 down.
Ot maybe he means with United

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The good thing about come backs is they instill a certain belief and confidence regardless of how they were achieved. This is especially the case when you have two in a row, one of them being against a top team and the other coming at the last minute. Obviously the quality of your game is what ultimately decides results long term but if it's a 50/50 game, the experience of these comebacks can make a real difference.
 
Poor first half. We showed great character in the second half.

I've seen a lot worse sides this season than this palace side. They really came after us.
 
For the first time since December, 2013, United came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 and for the first time in history, Mourinho recovered from a two-goal deficit to claim all three points in a Premier League game

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....man-utd-fixtures-palace-mourinho-14372348.amp

Is the bolded part true? It can't be, surely a manager who has won 3 PL Titles has made a comeback from 2-0 down.
Ot maybe he means with United

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Wasn't one of the Rashford's debut (don't remember which competition) a comeback?
 
Wasn't one of the Rashford's debut (don't remember which competition) a comeback?
I don't think he means it's the first time ever that he has been involved in a comeback of some form.
I think what he means is a last minute comeback, scoring a wonder goal in the last few minutes of the match kind of comeback,you know the beat kind of comeback
 
Crystal Palace's young right back with the funny name was outstanding. He put in an impressive shift.
 
Excellent comeback although I still am p*ssed. Clearly when the players up the tempo we are a far more dangerous team. I dont understand why we are so pedestrian in matches and dont play with more drive from the off set
 
Jose putting in a dig at refereeing saying "Ref was very good. Didn't stop the match for any freekicks and let the game flow"
 
I was torn between Mata and Rashford as they both made an equally significant impact when they came on. Don't think any of the original 11 that started the game deserved the award.

I thought Matic was pretty good, even in the first half. I voted MotM about 5 secs after the game ended so it was always going to go to him
 
Incredible goal from Matic. Great comeback considering how woeful we were in the first half.

Oddly I had a feeling that we would win as soon as Palace scored the second. Almost as if we had nothing to lose at that point.

And what a goal.
 
Outstanding fight to overcome a 2-0 deficit. Enjoy this one, lads. We don't see matches like this very often.
 
Awesome last 30 minutes, shows the desire is still there in the players.
Probably the best way to win a game before the big one against the enemy.
Hopefully we start better on Saturday though.
 
watched the highlights again

that De Gea save at 2-2 was crucial but kinda forgotten about in the madness
 
For the first time since December, 2013, United came back from 2-0 down to win 3-2 and for the first time in history, Mourinho recovered from a two-goal deficit to claim all three points in a Premier League game

https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www....man-utd-fixtures-palace-mourinho-14372348.amp

Is the bolded part true? It can't be, surely a manager who has won 3 PL Titles has made a comeback from 2-0 down.
Ot maybe he means with United

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That’s because his teams are rarely 2-0 down and he wins more than he loses. Therefore less opportunities to make comebacks. Once his team scores your facing a mammoth task to even get a goal back which is why I hated playing against his teams.
 
That tweet by rashford right there is the reason why United are officially back. Lighting that fire in the club and the young players is what was missing this whole time. I hope they carry it through to the Liverpool game. I can't believe Mourinho has been able to inspire the team this much.
 
Mixed emotions. Terrible first half performance. Individual players trying too hard and working as a team. We showed more urgency and spirit in the second half. Good come back. Jose has a lot to do on the training ground.
 
What a game, that's what football is all about, those moments celebrating getting the last minute winner. I've touched on it before but could you imagine if the goal had gone to VAR, that emotion would've been taken away while the decision gets dissected and that's why I'm not a fan of VAR.

After the win last weekend against Chelsea I was fairly confident going into the match, no reason not to, our record is good against them, they had about 13 players out injured as well.

We looked really shaky at the start, I wasn't at all surprised to see them go in front. I was actually disgusted by that first half performance, not one player could say they played well.

Mourinho got it spot on with his substitutions, all the players that came on all had some sort of an impact.

Credit to Palace, they had a go and fought really hard against the odds but just ran out of puff. Their right back was excellent, only his second senior game.
 
I do think that Mourinho, in general, is pretty dam good with his usage of subs. His timing is more often than not spot on. I think it's fair to say no manager or coaches send a team out to be as ineffective as we were in that first half. One of the qualities of a good manager is what you do to change that, which players he has on that bench that he believes will cause the opposition more problems. I think he gets is right a lot of the time.
 

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Possession
30% 70%
Shots
10 17
Shots on Target
4 8
Corners
3 7
Fouls
10 8

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