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Chelsea 1:0 Manchester United

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Sun, 05 November 2017

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Deserved loss.

Don't understand the reasoning for starting with a 2 man midfield with the form Herrera and Micki are at the moment.
 
Also people criticizing the players all the time and saying they aren't good enough or what not. Nah. Put Pep in charge and he'd have us playing excellent, attacking football. Though one thing is for sure, he wouldn't buy someone so inept on the ball like Lukaku for fecking 75mil :lol: He's a good goalscorer but absolutely useless at everything else.
 
Terrible, yes it is the bridge but basically handed City the title.. so poor today between 45-80 minutes were actually a mess. It follows the same pattern, we try first half, sit back second hoping to salvage a 0-0, only to concede for once.
 
We got proper beat up there. Well done Chelsea credit where it's due, that was depressing
 
Lucky to get away with only a 1 - 0 defeat. Embarrassing at times how outclassed we were , for long periods we could not string two passes together.

The only way we can score against the better teams is a defensive lapse like last week or we get lucky with a bit of hoof ball into the opposition box. We do not have the guile or creativity to create anything against the stronger teams.
 
This match proves that we aren't title contenders by any shot. Our only hope this season is to secure the top 4. Mourinho can't bring the best out of our players with his tactics. You can see that our players want to play with more aggression but are conflicted by Mourinho's park-the-bus approach.

The players will down tools, eventually. They don't look like they're willing to play this kind of football for too long.
 
Never fancied us as soon as momentum went with Chelsea at the start of the 2nd half, the only hope we had was a lucky goal. We should be miles better than we are.
 
Do we have a midfield or attack for that matter? We need world class players and we really don’t have any bar De Gea. At least this game was more entertaining to watch but we really didn’t threaten Chelsea at all.
 
Never score as long as i have an hole up my arse. No pattern no idea. Go gungho last 10 minutes. Top 4 shootout I'm afraid and theres no certainty in that. feck Miki off and get 2 WC midfielders in along with a RW/RWB. Rashford all bluster. Still a young kid but Lukaku is getting nothing to run onto
 
3 CBs and they leave that much space for the Morata goal. Midfield was overrun and as expected the linkman between midfield and the forwards was invisible.
 
I hate watching us. We’re just a poor side, can’t pass, can’t cross, can’t take a set piece, bad at everything, just all around useless. Don’t really know what else to say. Same under Moyes, same under LVG, same under José. Club is poisoned in to horrible football and nothing ever changes. We need to spend a further £500m and replace 4 or 5 players with genuinely world class talent to stand a chance of competing for this league.

Thats why he wanted another attacker. Someone like Griezmann or even Perisic would have made more of a difference today.

Dont think we should read too much into it. We are still in the title race if barely. Just need to improve and make sure we beat them in the return leg at OT.
 
Meh..

We'll win the Champs League with an own goal:D

Need an attacking coach! No co-ordination up top!

Biggest problem is our midfield, really awful without Pogba.

And Miki... Mo keeps starting the guy even though he's been awful for a long time. Jose needs to have a re-think.
 
Title over

Players terrible, need a clean out of the dross which is 75% of our team.
You can have the Barca team of 2009-11 and Mourinho will shite the bed with them too. It's not the players. It's the manager. Our attack is not as bad as his tactics and coaching make them seem to be. Why do the players hoof if Mourinho tells them not to?!
 
I'd argue we still need 2 new CMs, our cover is abysmal and it shows. How a midfield can collapse from the loss of one player is unforgivable.

There were worrying signs early in the season when we were winning 4-0. Now we're playing the better teams it shows.

Lukaku is poor at holding the ball up but at the same time, as a goal scorer, he's getting zero service. Stick him in City or Chelsea team and he'd be scoring every game.
 
First half Chelsea probably edged it and had a goal harshly disallowed, but it was a fairly even game. Second half, only one team wanted the 3 points.
 
Can jose win the Pl again with his style of football? For me he has to prove that his last year at Chelsea was an anomaly. This archaic football will be criticized if he does not get the results and win the big trophies.
Stupidest post of the thread award for you.
 
Absolutely shitfest. We should be happy with top four this season. That second half performance was disgraceful and Mou’s ‘tactics’ when he’s not parking the bus are shit so I can see why he resorts to parking the bus so often.

How is it Mourinhos fault that Rashford misses a piss easy chance in the first minute? Or that Mkhi is a coward? Or that Phil Jones is stupid? We cant keep the ball for shit.
 
Mourinho should have seen what was happening and hooked Mkhitaryan at halftime. Am surprised as normally he is so sharp and quick to react to things.
 
Replacing Matic with Bakayoko doesn't seem so outrageous now does it? Bakayoko is a lot younger and he provides a lot of energy on the pitch. Now if only he could shoot.
 
A month ago, I think we'd have been happy to take 4 points from these 3 games. Liverpool away. Tottenham at home, Chelsea away. Zero net loss of goal difference.
 
Time to take some time off from Caf, and and all of speccialists here, and us getting relegated, and City winning fecking title at the begining of november. Oh, and sack Mourinho, and sell all of the players.
Have fun.
 
I doubt any team in the world has a worst record at a ground than United do at Stamford Bridge
 
Pathetic. Only the second match I've been able to catch live this season as I'm traveling central/south America. Can't say I'll be going out of my way to catch another one until I'm back.
 
Abysmal tactics.. grow some balls jose

We are in for a top 4 battle
Tactics did not hurt us today. It was quality. We clearly did not park the bus we just couldn't play consistent enough to control the game. This is our top 6 level.
 
Also Mkhi and Mata should both not be starting. Look at Silva + De Bruyne for City today in comparison.. ran the game. We need to sort this out.
 
We're at our true level, soon it won't be about finishing 2nd but we'll struggle for top 4. We're not good. A good start against shit teams have weirdly deluded many of us into thinking we'd mount a serious challenge. It's already over and we're in November.
 
Fck the plastic cnuts and their shit fascist loving support.

But they deserved the win.
 
Shambles of a performance. The space Chelsea had was a joke. They didn't even play well, we have no creativity or confindence or technical ability to play a more intricate game.

Lukaku is looking like a poor mans Heskey each passing game. I like him but come on, he's piss poor at everything at the moment.
 
We lost to a team who is nothing special. We must solve our attacking problems. Urgent.
And their goal is on the same level like arsenal defending vs city. 3 defenders nowhere on that cross. That was pathetic. Smalling and jones positioning is awful. Can't believe that we conceded only four goals in Pl this year.

Special mention- lingard outpaced by the ref. Play of the season. @GifLord please, if you can, post it..
 
City's title to lose now. Really needed to keep the pressure on. Looks like City have successfully oil-bought their way to another league if they can keep their bottle.
Poor United and Mourinho. We spent just 300m pounds on the last 2 summers (and more than 300m other pounds on the three seasons before them).
 
Are we even surprised?

Do we ever get a result at their place? No.

Do we get a positive result before the international break? Nope.

So why the fuss?

What was annoying was the fact that we couldn’t seem to string feck all together. Not a single attack seemed crafted. It was hit and hope with runs and passes.

We trash.
 
I think that was the worst we have played all season. To be honest I would have only expected 2 points from that and the Spurs game, if we beat Arsenal and get a point from City with Zlatan and Pogba to come back with all of the big teams out of the way I still think we are in with a good shout.
 
Chelsea are simply a far better team. Nothing else to say. United lack any form of creativity going forward. How is Mkhitaryan even a professional football player. Subbing on Lingard in the end summarized it for me. bleh
 
To be honest it wouldn't have been such a shite result had we not given Huddersfield 3 points. That was a huge bloody mistake by us losing that game.
 
That was one of the most pathetic, spineless and insulting performances i have seen for about a decade.

There are players in the side today that have absolutely zero right to be wearing the shirt at this moment in time. Phil Jones was horrific, mhky has been shite since august, Herrera poot again, Lukaku dreadful, Rashford poor.

Thank feck for the international break
 
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