POLL: Would you take Jose Mourinho (if he accepted the job)

Would you take Jose Mourinho as manager if opportunity arose in future?

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Genuinely intrigued at the thoughts around Jose Mourinho as potential manager (at a future date).

Most people agree that 2013 was probably the time post-SAF to hire him, if we were serious. However, if a chance to get him in the future arose, and he accepted ofcourse (huge assumption, but never know in football, especially at volitile Chelsea), would you be accepting of him as a Manchester United manager?
 
I was against the idea when Fergie was packing it in... had there been a second chance at that spring of 2013, I'd have been pro.

If Van Gaal's proved himself unsuited, or at any rate fired, I'd not be averse to Jose.

Would be funny to see the Chelsea reactions as well :)
 
Eriku said:
I was against the idea when Fergie was packing it in... had there been a second chance at that spring of 2013, I'd have been pro.

If Van Gaal's proved himself unsuited, or at any rate fired, I'd not be averse to Jose.

Would be funny to see the Chelsea reactions as well :)
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Interesting.
 
He was my first choice when Fergie retired, he'd still be my first choice if it was possible.
 
No, never wanted him and still don't.
 
Would i take, HELL YES - I wanted him when Sir Alex retired.

Would he want to come here though? Not any more and rightfully so, we aren't the same side anymore as we were 2 years ago, there's a good chance we'll be a Europa League team, so why should a world class coach like that put his reputation on the line, take 2 or 3 years out of his career trying to rebuild a club who didn't want him originally.
 
I thought he should have replaced SAF. I still think he is the man for the job; only wildcard now is whether he can take a midtable side to the top whereas if we hired him in 2013 he would have had the champions to work with.
 
That tanker has sailed.

I'm moving this to the transfer forum.
 
No. Great manager, but no. And it doesn't have anything to do with his behaviour as far as I am concerned. I just feel there are other managers around who provide results plus other things which are important to me and which Mourinho doesn't provide.
 
Success breeds stability in the modern game.

Jose Mourinho knows how to work with what he has. He knows what he wants to do in the future but in the present moment he has the aura and nous to get a team firing. He can build teams, he improves players. The youth is still a blurred point against his name but maybe that will come in time. He has settled at Chelsea.He has had a career where he went through the stage of "win some titles, feck off" to experience different leagues. Now is his time for a dynasty at one club, which will resonate the way Sir Alex Ferguson and Arsene Wenger have done.

If he did move on, we'd be in a better state because he knows how to win. It's better to have a cycle of managers to maintain your status than blindly follow people in the hope they make it good, as that just brings stagnation and confusion. To this day I don't think the club knows what the expectation should be? Top 4 minimum, but surely you want a return on your investments. Over 200m spent in almost 2 years and we don't know where it's taking us. You know what you get with Mourinho.
 
Ahm, would I want the best manager in the world at my club? You bloody bet i would. That ship has sailed though, the club fecked that one up completely in 2013.
 
He's irritating, but at least he'd be our irritating monkey. Stuff he comes up with in the interviews are just petulant at times.

Still, he's an exceptional manager. I doubt he'd come to us now, as I do think he'll be at Chelsea for a good 5 years at least and then will probably move on to an international team.
 
Zoo said:
No, never wanted him and still don't.
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Snap.

He is not for building an empire, he is for tweaking a club with a foundation. Admittedly, he did do well at Porto, however, there is not half the pressure there would be on a top team.

I still feel he has always taken easy jobs. Like the Liverpool rebuild, it takes a lot of years to re-build. Even Chelsea, when you look at the previous 3 or 4 managers, they laid quite a foundation for Jose to take over. I do not believe for one minute that Jose would have fared any better than Moyes or LVG in 1 year. The squad needed too much investment.
 
Yes. Had we done the right thing upon Ferguson's retirement and pressed him for the job we wouldn't be in the mess we are now.

He's exactly the kind of personality required to manage United.
 
Yes. He is the only manager who could have come into the club after the departure of Sir Alex with the mindset that he could and would do the job better. We failed to realise that football has moved on since 1986 and appointed a decent man, but one out of his depth and overawed by the challenge. We are now reaping the rewards of that short-sightedness.

The chance has gone now though.
 
Member 5225 said:
Interesting.
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Is it? I just thought that Mourinho has a track record of not being very academy-oriented, and that he can be ridiculously functional when it comes to getting the results required. Clearly, though, Chelsea are looking like fireworks and we're looking somewhat confused at the moment. Then again, you need go no further than back to last season to see a Chelsea team that weren't particularly inspiring, and that's from a man who knows what managing in the Premier League is all about,
 
Nope. He's a top class manager with less than classy antics, brings guaranteed success wherever he goes. I'd have hired him right after SAF retired but since he's returned to Chelsea it'd be weird for him to come here and show anywhere near the same amount of passion needed.
 
I voted "no" because I think we're too late in the day. After the board's failure to target him after Moyes' departure I don't think he'd come to us now.

I'm also not sure about the style of play and the approach to young talent.
 
Yeah, he was there for the taking when SAF retired as well. Not a chance he will leave Chelsea now.
 
Eriku said:
Is it? I just thought that Mourinho has a track record of not being very academy-oriented, and that he can be ridiculously functional when it comes to getting the results required. Clearly, though, Chelsea are looking like fireworks and we're looking somewhat confused at the moment. Then again, you need go no further than back to last season to see a Chelsea team that weren't particularly inspiring, and that's from a man who knows what managing in the Premier League is all about,
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Well perhaps he's had a one track mind of success quickly everywhere he has been, and maybe this current job is his 'build' success?
 
The thought that we are too good for Mourinho needs to die because we'd be lucky to have a manager like him manage us. As others mentioned, if we were to sack van Gaal (due to results this and next season), who else would want to come that are better than him?
 
Of course I would. Jose was always the pragmatic and rational choice post-Fergie and has a pedigree than no other current manager apart from Pep and maybe Ancelotti possesses. Would he ruffle some feathers ? There's a good chance he would. But even his staunchest critics can't refute the fact that he is a serial winner who can 'manage' a club. You can't quantify the former qualities per se, but despite adversity, Jose somehow someway finds a way to win more often than not. As for the latter, it deserves special emphasis in that Mourinho is a bit different from a lot of modern coaches who only concern themselves with the football aspect of the club. Here is someone who despite managing for clubs with presidents and sporting directors and other power brokers, is a bit of a throwback and really wants to influence every major decision from transfer prioritization to upkeep of facilities to the scout teams and critical analysis. A bit in the Fergie/ Wenger mold.

As for a Mourinho appointment being realized, after all that has transpired through the last couple of seasons, Jose will never be a United manager IMO. We had a good chance to appoint him in 2013 depending on who you ask but overlooking (is that the correct term ? Maybe not if we never approached him for the job or he already had his eyes set on London) him in favor David (who no disrespect is a few notches below Jose in terms of managerial ability) would rub an intrinsically egoistical man like him the wrong way.

Additionally, his bond with Chelsea was much weaker then, having been their manager for less than 3 seasons and leaving under acrimonious circumstances. Succeeding a man who Jose spoke of a dear friend/ mentor (well Louis is too I guess) and who is unarguably considered to be the greatest club manager of all times would've been a profoundly exciting proposition for someone who wants to go down as one of the genuine all time greats. But now he's in his second spell at Stamford Bridge so the roots are pretty deep and you could envision him staying there for 5 maybe 10 seasons and building a legacy. That is something which Mourinho has always been critiqued for and desired and by all accounts he's in for the long haul this time and might only leave to manage the Portuguese national team (60+ maybe ?).

People often underestimate or misappropriate his fierce sense of loyalty and I can't imagine him joining a club that's Chelsea's domestic rival after this latest stint. In a slightly twisted way, it would be a bit ironic if Jose, a man who sometimes unjustifiably draws flak for being an opportunistic wanderer sticks at one club for a decade and cements his legacy with sustained success while United, a club that had one manager for more than a quarter century chop and desired continuity changes manager every couple of seasons to find the right combination.
 
Mourinho is an expert at building title winning sides and he wouldn't hesitate selling players and bring the right ones in. I'd take him in a heartbeat. Our squad is long overdue for an overhaul anyway.
 
ForlansHair said:
Why?

He has one quality that a United manager should have, he wins most of the time. We should be about more than that.

He won't play any young players and he won't even attempt to win by playing great football. 2 things that whoever gets the job needs to do.
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I disagree. First there's no golden rule that we absolutely have to play youngsters at the expense of winning. Its that type of stubbornness that could lead us down a bindipper path of decades of mediocrity.
 
ForlansHair said:
Why?

He has one quality that a United manager should have, he wins most of the time. We should be about more than that.

He won't play any young players and he won't even attempt to win by playing great football. 2 things that whoever gets the job needs to do.
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Are we still pretending that Mourinho sides don't score lots of goals and produce entertaining football? The myth will never die, it seems.

Mourinho is a pragmatist, and does what he must to win titles. If that means all hands to the deck against the bigger sides then so be it. It's a tactic that works, is proven, and is actually rather brave. People can't wait to tear into him for his defensive tendencies in the bigger matches but he persists with it regardless.

If young players are good enough he will play them.
 
Raoul said:
I disagree. First there's no golden rule that we absolutely have to play youngsters at the expense of winning. Its that type of stubbornness that could lead us down a bindipper path of decades of mediocrity.
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I didn't say it had to be at the expense of winning. He should be able to marry the two together.

If he can't then he should at least attempt to. His team selections in the Carling Cup and the dead rubber in the CL groups prove it. He doesn't even attempt to play them.
 
ForlansHair said:
I didn't say it had to be at the expense of winning. He should be able to marry the two together.

If he can't then he should at least attempt to. His team selections in the Carling Cup and the dead rubber in the CL groups prove it. He doesn't even attempt to play them.
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Its generally one or the other these days. We are in a world of competing with clubs who are completely fixated on winning by buying established stars. Obviously if a youth player is special, they should play. Otherwise, we seem far better at populating other prem sides with youth players than generating the type of players who can make it at OT.
 
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