Modern tech is great, you'd hardly tell that's a prosthetic leg.
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Modern tech is great, you'd hardly tell that's a prosthetic leg.
I think we"ll probably miss him more in the CL than the League,I think that we should be able to beat Southampton and Palace without Pogba,but I think we"ll miss him more against Moscow and Benfica....
He should be back before that Benfica match.
International week coming up, He is injured. Means we can keep him here to be ready for Liverpool @Judas
Yeah, he'll be ready for Liverpool.
The fact that we haven't had an update on this is a positive sign.
Nailed on to return against Liverpool imo.
Nailed on to return against Liverpool imo.
please tell me this fella is a cnut and knows feck all
Oh ffs.
"His injury is a little different to Dembele, so he can heal without surgery," Orava told Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat.
Hopefully this is the case.
Hopefully this is the case.
If he needs a surveys do it. Better than him returning earlier to get injured again. We need him for the long term not just for one or 3 matches now.
but how reliable is he?
Some nobody from ESPN knows that Pogba needs surgery before anyone else?
Pass.
Pass.
So Castles says it's a grade 3 with potential tendon injury, and now Rob Dawson says "United are yet to settle on the best course of action."
Dawson quoted Finnish surgeon Sakari Ovara who told Finnish Helsignin Sanomat "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on (whether he needs) surgery is to be made next week"
http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000005379750.html
This doesn't look good!
Dawson quoted Finnish surgeon Sakari Ovara who told Finnish Helsignin Sanomat "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on (whether he needs) surgery is to be made next week"
http://www.hs.fi/urheilu/art-2000005379750.html
This doesn't look good!
I read that "Can" as he doesn't need surgery though so it's not bad news?
I doubt he'll be having unnecessary surgery in a world cup year, I can see him being managed a bit more and missing the start of next season.
I doubt he'll be having unnecessary surgery in a world cup year, I can see him being managed a bit more and missing the start of next season.
It was obvious last season how much we missed Pog when he was injured.
Matic has been great. And Fellaini has stepped up. But their best work is generally as defensive midfielders.
We need another mid who is comfortable on the ball, can keep possession and link midfield to attack.
Despite our troubles at left back and right sided attack, the lack of adequate cover for Pogba might be the biggest weakness in the squad.
Matic has been great. And Fellaini has stepped up. But their best work is generally as defensive midfielders.
We need another mid who is comfortable on the ball, can keep possession and link midfield to attack.
Despite our troubles at left back and right sided attack, the lack of adequate cover for Pogba might be the biggest weakness in the squad.
Feck, don't know why I thought he'd be back soon. We are missing him
Still, whether he plays or not can affect the opposition tactic. With him, surely the other team would want a more defensive oriented player. Other wise playing against Fellaini, they would try to attack and press us more.
Another mind game would be: having him trained for few days prior and gives him rest few day prior to his return game and smoke screening that saying he's not back to full fitness. That would still work. Gaining even just 1% edge would be decisive in tough game, which this one coincides with a trip to Anfield.
Rob Dawson has been reporting on United for various papers for at least 5 years. Was at the MEN for ages. He's bound to have decent United sources by now. No reason to think this is anything but a straight report. It's hardly transfer speculation driven by an agent.
By the way, the story doesn't say Pogba needs surgery. It says a decision is to be made next week on whether surgery is the appropriate option.
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But it suggest long term lay off
Looks like it's at least going to be a couple of months.
What a kick in the balls.
What a kick in the balls.
Slight problem I have with that report.
The club have been in touch with Finnish muscle repair specialist Sakari Orava with a decision set to be made
"His injury is a little different to Dembele, so he can heal without surgery," Orava told Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat
So according to Dawson we went to this guy about it and then this guy turned around and talked to a newspaper in Finland? Pretty sure legally he isn't allowed to talk about it.
Seems to me Dawson's info comes from the Finland newspaper piece and not from anyone at the club
The club have been in touch with Finnish muscle repair specialist Sakari Orava with a decision set to be made
"His injury is a little different to Dembele, so he can heal without surgery," Orava told Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat
So according to Dawson we went to this guy about it and then this guy turned around and talked to a newspaper in Finland? Pretty sure legally he isn't allowed to talk about it.
Seems to me Dawson's info comes from the Finland newspaper piece and not from anyone at the club
Any Finnish resident can elaborate in regard of that paper's credibility?
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Biggest and most trustworthy.
Cheers. Thanks for the info. Now it doesn't sound great. Seems to be big injury but not as huge as Dembele
Sounds like it could be middle of November or even Christmas if these reports are credible.
The paper's credibility has nothing to do with my point. My point was about people making claims that Dawson must have heard this from the club and i'm saying his whole report is based on what was said in the newspaper article. Which was a Doctor claiming we contacted him and speaking on Pogba's injury. Which if we did contact him about Pogba's injury is highly unprofessional and unethical as he breaking Doctor/Patient confidentiality by disclosing information we as a club haven't even officially disclosed.
Ok Jose still don't know when Pogba will be back? This is getting ridiculous. We the fans need to know the exact time, it looks like 3 4 months to me, the way the club is hiding it its not good.
But maybe its all still speculation? Is it? I am also assuming you are right and doctor patient confidentiality is broke here if its not speculation. But that would seem unlikely surely.
Was the article translated accurately?
Yes it was. Article also mentions that Pogba called the Finnish doctor on Wednesday. In addition to this and the quote there is no extra information about Pogba in the rest of the article.
Google translate is really bad with Finnish in general. Guess it worked in this particular instance.
@massi83 can you double check this for me
Orava, a native of Naantali, is one of the world's most famous sports practitioners. This week, he rose again to international titles as he repaired the rift of the French Dembélie behind.
An hour-long cut was normal, with one small exception. The 20-year-old Frenchman was in surgery for the first time, so he was nervous. "The guy wanted gavel anesthesia, local anesthesia so instead he was anesthetized," Orava said.
The surgery for Oraval was a routine. According to his calculations, he has cut nearly a thousand hamstring muscles in the back. He has corrected Achilles tendencies for a couple of thousand.
Day after Dembelé's surgery Orava received a call from England. Manchester United midfielder Paul Pogba wanted to discuss his back injury. "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on surgery will be made next week, "Orava says.
The rupture of the back muscles is especially a problem for football players and hockey players.
this is the translation, it seems he is talking abourt dembele who needs surgery not pogba. He clearly says "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on surgery will be made next week" The surgery of dembele will be made next week. FFS
Feckin jurnos!!
Orava, a native of Naantali, is one of the world's most famous sports practitioners. This week, he rose again to international titles as he repaired the rift of the French Dembélie behind.
An hour-long cut was normal, with one small exception. The 20-year-old Frenchman was in surgery for the first time, so he was nervous. "The guy wanted gavel anesthesia, local anesthesia so instead he was anesthetized," Orava said.
The surgery for Oraval was a routine. According to his calculations, he has cut nearly a thousand hamstring muscles in the back. He has corrected Achilles tendencies for a couple of thousand.
Day after Dembelé's surgery Orava received a call from England. Manchester United midfielder Paul Pogba wanted to discuss his back injury. "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on surgery will be made next week, "Orava says.
The rupture of the back muscles is especially a problem for football players and hockey players.
this is the translation, it seems he is talking abourt dembele who needs surgery not pogba. He clearly says "His injury is a little different to Dembelé, so he can heal without surgery. The decision on surgery will be made next week" The surgery of dembele will be made next week. FFS
Feckin jurnos!!
Uh. It said "a day after Dembele's surgery". "The decision on surgery will be made next week" has to be a different surgery or it makes no sense
Edit: definitely need a native Finnish to check on translation.
Correct. 4 first paragraphs all reference the fact that Dembele has already had the surgery.
Dembele was operated on Tuesday.I read it this way. "Pogba may not need the surgery, but surgery can fix the problem. It's an option to choose."
I missread you had to delete my post there, ahh so the dates is where we are understanding here. Ok im with ya.
SO we can still be hopeful that its still not needed its just to see how its healed in the meantime
Yea thats the one I deleted, it had no relevance to what you actually said
You jinxing cnut.
Bad news this. If they are even discussing about surgery, it means the injury is worse than what we expected. We will be needing him desperately for the Oct and Nov fixtures.
This doesn't sound good, tbh. What would be the advantages of having surgery? Faster and/or more reliable healing?
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