I thought Madrid wants both of them this summer? Surely they can afford it?
Pogba Future
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I thought Madrid wants both of them this summer? Surely they can afford it?
They'll both combined cost nearly 300m I believe. Not sure they can afford it.
Raiola is one of his main sources though. I expect him to be the one to break the De Ligt story as well because of it.
Ronaldo, Pogba, Mourinho in the same team? Yes please.
They want Sarri as a manager.
Exactly. The transfer budget Zidane was supposedly working with was 300 million and he knows he needs to strengthen more than just the midfield. The thinking was Hazard could be had for around 80 but that now looks unlikely and they wanted to trade some cast offs to us to get Pogba's price down but we thankfully don't seem interested in their deadwood as we have a huge stack of it of our own.
Not sure they can pay 300m a summer without selling. They'll have to offload several players to escape FFP.
Pogba can also think Juve will have a better chance of winning CL soon as Madrid are about to enter a rebuild.
If they sell Bale and some others i think they can, in fact they need to spend big just like us. Not sure they can find any suitors to Bale. He is their biggest obstacle.
I dont like if he leaves this summer along with De Gea. What kind of precedent it set if we sell our genuine best players and keep others dross? Even if we sell him i very much doubt we replace adequately
Unless the price is incredible, I can't see us budging on Pogba given the amount of work that needs doing to this team.
The only way this happens is if it's been decided he is having a seriously negative impact on the dressing room, and that a world class potential replacement is coming in.
The only way this happens is if it's been decided he is having a seriously negative impact on the dressing room, and that a world class potential replacement is coming in.
Think De Gea will run his contract down and leave after next season.
Or if he himself wants to leave. We're not going to keep an unhappy player that wants to leave if that's his case.
Dybala’s crap and who would be supplying the balls for Cancelo? Like Tripper is better than Young I would accept Spurs £100m bid and him to think that’s good business. Either give us the full cash or get lost.
I'm quite sure their links go beyond Raiola? They call a lot of transfer business with a high degree of accuracy. Unless every one of their calls are Raiola driven, which I doubt!
No it wouldn’t. We would be signing 2 players Juve want to get rid of. There’s a reason for that. Dybala would be as good of a signing as Di Maria, bottle job and Cancelo needs players like Pogba.
Amazing people still defending him based on 10 second snippets. Pogba is an amazing player for “best skills and goals” videos but those who have watched him every week should know what a liability he is. Never seen such a talented player struggle with the basics so much. Would be cowardly of him to run back to the comfort of pissing Serie A but I wouldn’t be surprised at all, I imagine that sums up his character quite appropriately.
He definitely isn't without fault but we have far, far bigger problems than pogba. Defense = shit, Midfield = Meh, Attack = Young inconsistent players, squad players = shit.
For some strange reason people think running around will improve our play when we'll have no players to actually make those passes that pogba can make, we're dumb enough to pay 90 mil for a player who played as the furthest of mid 3 and never defended but now expect him to then blame him for not being good at that part. When he goes then we'll get people moaning about lack of creativity from the middle.
Those OGS threads are a complete joke and definitely has the "told you so" mentality. There are people making valid points but they'll also throw in complete rubbish and try to justify it but ignore counter points if challenged.
Just hope we can get some good players in at RB,RW,CM,CB,ST to improve our team and keep pogba for at least one more season.
You're kidding right? Can you imagine Ronaldo on the end of these passes.
Yeah amazing play there but does he do it week in week out?
Just cannot see it myself as they are probably the two biggest egos in world football trying to be the Alpha.
Tbf GDM was also adamant of Pogba going to Barca last summer. I'll believe this when I see it. There's almost nobody who they can offer not named Ronaldo who would be worthwhile to us and I'm not sure they can afford a 180m€ fee which is what we'll likely ask for.
If Juve paid 150mil in cash just throwing Lingard+Young as bonus to them. Jlingz's brand will help Juve to strive in market.
Agree. He's the very definition of a YouTube player. The midfield gets completely destroyed while he does one or 2 great passes to be added to his YouTube compilation video and people say "wow that was great" while not knowing his team lost that match 4-0.
If we get good cash and some of their players we're getting out of this with a pretty good deal.
Money's no good to us, and we already have enough work to do this summer, just tell Pogba to enjoy his holidays and forget it.
id be more interested seeing Ronnie react to his 30 yard shots into the stands
Was he a coward when he left Juve for 5th place United? Think before you type. You say this about Pobga but probably want Dybala to replace him. Have you seen more than 10 second snippets of him?
Pogba got along with Zlatan just fine. Infact, he looked more chill out and professional when there was Zlatan in team.
So we cant buy another CM? Hmmm ok. Dybala isnt crap by the way.
Take Cancelo plus cash and invest the cash in NDombele and Bruno
Transfers are not binary, who will supply the balls for X. Erm how about sign someone
Mate do you know the predicament we are in. We are not getting Nbombele when we have suitors like Juve and Real interested we are looking at the James Maddison types to replace Pogba, which is why it’s important he stays for one more season to give us Champs League.
Dybala has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he can offer 8/10 performances every other week. He’s not going to cut the mustard the English league will be too fast for him and he is very very inconsistent. We would basically be getting a sh!!ter Pogba.
I say who’s going to supply the balls because our quality of midfielder reduces once Pogba goes and I don’t see how selling your best player in a cash plus an unwanted player is good for business or strategy. That’s what clubs like Newcastle and Spurs use to do. We want a RB we sign one out right. These swap deals don’t work. What we would be getting is a RB who basically was forced to move. No thanks.
It's amazing that you regurgitate garbo talking points. He's played for Allegri, Conte and Deschamps. Based on your Cameronesque Pogba DNA profile, he clearly should never have been playing for those strong personality managers, because his liabilities so far outweigh anything he can offer in 90 mins of football.
Great point about week in week out but do Matic? Fred? Mata? Young? Smalling? Lukaku? [I’m not going to name them all].
You will not find any sane United fan that believes Pogba is outstanding all the time, or even most of it, but the issue isn’t whether he does that every week.
The issue is we’re about to sell him & be left with players that don’t do it any week.
We will not sell Pogba & re-invest the money in multiple players to build something so selling him whilst having Matic-Fred as 2/3 of a starting midfield seems reductive.
Keeping Pogba for one more season won’t dramatically decrease his value but would allow us to bed in a replacement for Matic & players in other key areas.
I'd take Cancelo and 70m or so. Or Dybala and Cancelo and switch to a 4-4-1-1/4-2-3-1 type of formation with Dybala as the 10. Total value of players would have to be at basically 120-140m though, so if Cancelo is like 45/50m, Dybala 70-80m, Douglas Costa ~40m, Alex Sandro ~50m, Pjanic ~60m... A combo of those to add up between 120-140m would work for me. Less keen on Alex Sandro and Douglas Costa because of various reasons, but would take them obviously.
He genuinely does. Every match he has moments like this whether he’s good or bad.
People need to stop looking at pogba as the water carrier, it’s no coincidence when he had 2 bootleggers in Herrera and Matic next to him he had his best period for the club.
Yes against lesser sides he can still boss it from CM but he’s at his best as a 10 for me.
Like with any player in the team, I wouldn't mind seeing him go if we use the funds to replace him with two quality players, I just have no faith in us being able to do so. Pogba has moments of quality other players in our team aren't capable of, even if he is massively inconsistent, I still believe he's just about the only player in our front six capable of creating anything which is why signing a good creative midfielder in his place is important. Early days but I'm yet to be impressed with any of the midfielders we've been linked with. I'd definitely like the deal more if Cancelo was involved.
Is Raiola no longer banned until August?
Pjanic, Costa and Cancelo, I would take all three and drive Pogba there myself.
I’ll take your word for it but I have seen games where he sprays a couple of decent passes around but also gets caught in possession and doesn’t try and amend his errors.
I was all for building the team around him last year and making him captain but he just doesn’t have the desire at Utd for whatever reasons.
Maybe he is too good for the current Utd team and cannot be bothered to lower himself to the standard of his teammates but either way you need a fighter at the moment and not a luxury player of which Pogba definitely is.
The best RB we could get is at Juve IMO thats probably why I would accept it. Not because I want to sell Pogba because I do not but I also dont think he is irreplaceable.
We need to but more creative players and build a team and not be reliant on one person.
If Pogba can be part of that great, if not get some other players in. Cancelo being one that is a great option. 120 euros plus Cancelo should suffice
Juve obviously wouldn't be in for NDombele if they sign Pogba. Real don’t seem to be in for him
They can only have him if they take Young and Jones also. Take it or leave it boys.
Look if he wants to leave, let him go.
Incredible player on his day, unfortunately his day doesn’t come round often enough. You can maybe argue that the players around him aren’t on the same wavelength (Zlatan probably the best player he had a connection with) but overall, he’s been kind of underwhelming.
If his head isn’t 100% on improving United, it’s best for both parties to move on. We should probably bring in an actual number 10 like Dybala or Griezmann to add goals and creativity to the team.
However, should he want to stay and is 100% on board, I’d also be happy. Let him earn our trust back.
Incredible player on his day, unfortunately his day doesn’t come round often enough. You can maybe argue that the players around him aren’t on the same wavelength (Zlatan probably the best player he had a connection with) but overall, he’s been kind of underwhelming.
If his head isn’t 100% on improving United, it’s best for both parties to move on. We should probably bring in an actual number 10 like Dybala or Griezmann to add goals and creativity to the team.
However, should he want to stay and is 100% on board, I’d also be happy. Let him earn our trust back.
I'm not a big fan of Dybala.
I'd take Cancelo and $$$(loads of it) for Pogba.
I'd take Cancelo and $$$(loads of it) for Pogba.
Would I be right in thinking that many people see Douglas Costa as someone that is just a speedster but not enough end product, sort of like Traore at Wolves or have I got that completely wrong.
Personally think if Pogba was to go we definitely would need to sign 3 midfielders (DM & 2xCM)
Personally think if Pogba was to go we definitely would need to sign 3 midfielders (DM & 2xCM)
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