PlayStation4

That cost a grand back then didn't it?

I'm not pleased, Weaste, I want jaw dropping graphics at any cost.
 
The 3DS' main reason for disappointing sales was its lack of games. Nintendo are rectifying that and the sales are on the up. The Wii and DS absolutely printed money for Nintendo. If Sony don't see the Wii-U as a competitor based on its rumoured power (or lack there of), they're absolute mugs. Nintendo have quite a good fan base and now can draw in more of the core gamer market, because they'll have the heavy weight devs taking the console seriously. EA have come out and said that the controller design is extremely exciting from a developers point of view.

The Doom mongering related to Nintendo products have been proven to be nothing but that in recent times. Even if the Wii-U is a flop (I think at worst, it'll have 'good' sales figures), Nintendo made more than enough from the last gen to take a hit on the bottom line figure.

Regarding the Wii-U's specs, at first I also believed that it'd be nothing more than a slight upgrade on the PS3 specs but I wouldn't be surprised if it boasted significantly better specs because I'm sure as Nintendo learnt from this gen, if they put it on par with the PS3, they'll need to come out with a new console within the next 5 years because the PS3 graphics are begining to look quite outdated already.

Everyone said that the Wii would be a flop, that no one would buy it, we all know how that turned out. I wouldn't be so quick to write off the Wii-U. A console that offers Nintendo exclusives + the other major multiplatform titles, just won't fail.

The 3DS also flopped due to the issues many experienced with the 3D of it. The sales maybe picking up by they are taking a £70 hit on the original price point on every Unit.

Everyone said the Wii would be a flop, but nobody would predict how well casual and family gamers would pick it up. Helped by the price, and of course the nature of the games and the gimmick. I can honestly say most people i know brought an Wii and have barely touched it since.

The main problem for the Wii is 3rd Party developers never really got the most out of the Wii remote, and it was the same with the DS. EA said they are excited about the Wii U controller, but they also admitted they are unsure how to use it. As innovative it maybe, it could end up going down the same way as the little screen you got with the Dreamcast controller, or the crossover between the PS3 and PSP. So you could have a very innovative controller, one that i personally don't see appealing to hardcore gamers, nor casual gamers, that developers are unsure how to use.

The Nintendo exclusives were not enough for the Gamecube or N64, and i don't think they will be enough for the Wii-U. Even getting a hugely successful franchise at the time, in Resident Evil and the remake of MGS. Didn't help the Gamecube. Personally i think the Nintendo exclusives, most aimed at children, actually puts of the FPS, RPG, Action gamers that make up the vast majority of PS3 and Xbox fans.

I honestly just don't see Wii-U selling well. It will be expensive, the controller, despite how much devs are excited by it, won't attract a lot of people and i just don't think it will have enough "oomph" to pull people away from Sony and Microsoft. It's not going to be the first of the next gen consoles, it;s the last of the current gen.
 
The 3DS also flopped due to the issues many experienced with the 3D of it. The sales maybe picking up by they are taking a £70 hit on the original price point on every Unit.

Seriously? You think they're making £70 loss on every sale? Where did you see those numbers? If you use these research numbers, it works out at around $18/£11.

No matter what the loss is since nobody other than Nintendo knows, after a while the production costs, overheads will go down so they'll likely end up making a profit on them.

Anyway the 3DS has now sold more in it's 8 months than the DS did in it's first whole year, with the holiday season to go.

The main problem for the Wii is 3rd Party developers never really got the most out of the Wii remote, and it was the same with the DS.

How did 3rd party developers not get the most out of the DS?

Personally i think the Nintendo exclusives, most aimed at children, actually puts of the FPS, RPG, Action gamers that make up the vast majority of PS3 and Xbox fans.

I hope Redlambs doesn't see that.
 
I said £70 from the original price point. Which they did, wasnt it originally selling for £269.99 and they slashed it to £199.99.

I meant 3rd party developers didn't get the most out of the DS dual screen, Nintendo did some great stuff with it. A lot of 3rd party devs just used it for a map or a inventory screen. Yawn!

And that's my opinion about Nintendo. Mario, pokemon great games but you don't get your average joe who plays Call Of Duty rushing out to get the next Mario.
 
I said £70 from the original price point. Which they did, wasnt it originally selling for £269.99 and they slashed it to £199.99.

Sorry, my mistake.

I meant 3rd party developers didn't get the most out of the DS dual screen, Nintendo did some great stuff with it. A lot of 3rd party devs just used it for a map or a inventory screen. Yawn!

Well yeah there are a lot that use it to it's fullest, but there are lots that do too.

And that's my opinion about Nintendo. Mario, pokemon great games but you don't get your average joe who plays Call Of Duty rushing out to get the next Mario.

That's because the average CoD player that thinks like, that think that going round shooting muscled up blokes is what being a proper grown-up is all about :p
 
That's because the average CoD player that thinks like, that think that going round shooting muscled up blokes is what being a proper grown-up is all about :p

Yeah, liking anything with bright colours makes you gay. I'm going to punch a kitten now /flex
 
And that's my opinion about Nintendo. Mario, pokemon great games but you don't get your average joe who plays Call Of Duty rushing out to get the next Mario.

If I had to go to a desert island and had to choose between Super Mario (a title I wasnt really fan of as a kid, I was more Gianna Sisters(I know its a clone, but the music is lot better)/Sonic kind of guy) and any COD version, I'd gladly choose the first one.

I'm 34.
 
I just got in some great news about Xbox sales over the Holiday weekend.
Here are the details directly from a notice we just sent to press:

Entering the seventh year of its lifecycle, Xbox 360 just closed the biggest sales week in the history of Xbox, selling more than 960,000 consoles in the U.S. during the week of Black Friday.

Microsoft’s retail partners are equally excited about our sales performance this holiday.

“We have seen tremendous excitement from customers for our hot holiday gaming offers,” said Chris Homeister, senior vice president and general manager of Home Entertainment at Best Buy. “Xbox 360 was among the best-sellers at Best Buy this Black Friday, and is a testament to the continued popularity of the gaming category this holiday.”

Sales highlights in the U.S. during the week of Black Friday include:

Xbox 360 sold more than 960,000 consoles in the U.S. alone, of which more than 800,000 were sold within a period of 24 hours – the biggest week of sales in Xbox history. (Source: Internal data)
More than 750,000 Kinect for Xbox 360 sensors were sold in the U.S. – standalone and bundled. (Source: Internal data)

We still expecting new Microsoft and Sony consoles next year?

PS3 was launched when Sony could see/predict PS2 sales in decline. Nintendo are doing the same with Wii and WiiU.

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This is not currently the case, both of the HD consoles are still experiencing sales growth.
 
Weaste, is this forthcoming "PS3 exclusive we won't believe" going to be GOW4?
 
Weaste, is this forthcoming "PS3 exclusive we won't believe" going to be GOW4?

I really don't know what it will be, but GOW4 wouldn't be a shock would it, or something that we won't believe? It's probably a load of hyperbole to be honest to generate interest in the TV show for the VGAs. It's known that Sony have that Smash Bros type game in the works, but that's not exactly exhilarating stuff is it? Maybe FF Versus XIII is finished and ready for release? Who knows? It's not going to be something daft like Sony giving Rockstar half a billion dollars to make GTA V exclusive, they would never make their money back. It'd sell of lot of PS3s though.

It's probably something daft like the sequel to Heavy Rain.
 
Just downloaded the 4.0 firmware update for PS3. It's a sign! PS4 is imminent!!!
 
Weaste, do/did you work in the industry? Or do you just have a passion for PlayStation? Or both...
 
Just downloaded the 4.0 firmware update for PS3. It's a sign! PS4 is imminent!!!

No, no, no. :nono:

That would make it the PS3.5, or PS3S.

Just because it's the 4.0 firmware doesn't mean it will be the PS "4".
 
No, no, no. :nono:

That would make it the PS3.5, or PS3S.

Just because it's the 4.0 firmware doesn't mean it will be the PS "4".

Damn, so I got excited over nothing then :(
 
Weaste, do/did you work in the industry? Or do you just have a passion for PlayStation? Or both...

I have worked in it, but a long time ago before I took a different path, as many of us did. It's a very fickle, insecure, stressful, and frustrating industry to be in.

I have no passion for Playstation, I have a passion for hardware and software that thinks out of the box.
 
Oh right I see, yeah it seems like an industry that is lucrative for a small minority and a bastard for everyone else.
 
A few posters here I think still are in it, but then you get posters such as Redlambs who also got out of it. Redlambs is a great guy, more designer than programmer, but he still has a lot of contacts within the industry in the UK. He was at his peak in the early GCN/PS2 era.
 
Report: BOTH New Xbox and PS4 Will Be Shown At E3

UK games industry outlet MCV has reported that both the next Xbox AND the PlayStation 4 will be shown at this year's E3 in June.

This isn't the first time that a publication has cited an unnamed source with information like this, but this isn't some unknown central European games blog - MCV's credibilty makes this particular report worth paying attention to.

Speaking on Twitter, MCV's online editor Ben Parfitt said "Obviously we can't reveal our sources. But you have my personal word on this - the source is exemplary, 100% concrete, ultra high level."

We shouldn't necessarily expect a full-blown reveal, though - we might just see the announcement. Editor-in-Chief Michael French told IGN: "This is very credible. Even if we don't see the hardware itself, or know a price or date, key publishers and developers are expecting some nod towards what direction PS4 will take at E3 this year. Sony isn't stupid - it knows that if Microsoft is planning to also say something about its next console, it can't be left behind."

Many were expecting Microsoft to come out on stage at E3 with some information about the new Xbox, but Sony's reveal would be more surprising, as a new console at this stage in the PlayStation 3's life cycle would fly in the face of the company's stated "ten-year plan".

If both Sony and Microsoft do indeed reveal their new consoles at the same time as Nintendo details the release schedule and pricing for the Wii U, this would quite probably be the biggest E3 in history.

Report: BOTH New Xbox and PS4 Will Be Shown At E3 - Games News at IGN

I hope the PS4 is not released until late 2013 at the earliest.
 
I certainly dont want them yet

2011 for me was the finest year for games. Loads of top releases.

2012 already looks very good too. They are simply not required at this stage


I am hoping its more like end of 2014. But I guess thats wishfull thinking
 
Doubt we'll see them till near Christmas 2013 even if they are announced.
 
Maybe they'll only announce the controllers like Nintendo did last year and make everyone wait a year for any other info...

That seems to be the most important consideration when it comes to gamers choosing what console to buy multiformat games for these days.

That being said, showing off the new Xbox controller might result in shots of thin air.
 
A few posters here I think still are in it, but then you get posters such as Redlambs who also got out of it. Redlambs is a great guy, more designer than programmer, but he still has a lot of contacts within the industry in the UK. He was at his peak in the early GCN/PS2 era.

Wow, that's probably the nicest thing you'll ever say about me!


As for the new consoles, I'm not surprised by an announcement this year (steal a bit of Nintendo's thunder with promises of wait a while and get the next gen graphics), but I doubt you'll see the machines on sale until late 2013 at the very earliest.