Maguire, McTominay, Sancho...if that can generate over a hundred million, massive result if we invest it wisely.
Players you 100% want to leave in the summer
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What's his transfer fee?
If you mean the transfer fee we paid for him which is around £75m, then no way is ANY club in the world willing to pay that. Absolute maximum we would get for him would be £50-£55m, even then I think we would do well to sell for that much considering how bad we are at selling players.
I'm open to giving him 1 last chance with another season to show what he can do, only because I know the talent is there. However, if we ain't going to get a big transfer budget and need to sell before we can buy then I would prefer to sell as I'm not convinced he would be able to showcase his true potential at this club, or even in the Premier League. It's not like he had a dip in form for 1 season, he has been poor since he has been at the club, which is 2 years now!
it has been posted quite a bit lately. Not sure the specifics numbers but something like has to be at least a 45-50 million transfer just to break even on him. So with many people saying to sell sancho for like 30-40 and add that to transfer budget it doesnt work that way.
Martial, mctominay, Maguire. Telles, dalot.
Players who are leaving or probably should for the sake of their careers - Tuanzebe, Jones, Bailly, Williams, Maguire, Telles, Beek, Henderson, Weghorst, Sabitzer, Butland. Some of the younger players too as there isn't room for all of them in the first team squad.
De gea needs to go. Watch us go nowhere with him there
Dalot
Maguire
Martial
Fred
Sancho
De Gea
Telles
Maguire
Martial
Fred
Sancho
De Gea
Telles
Henderson
Martial
Maguire
McTominay
Telles
Tuanzebe
Bailly
Jones
Elanga
Chong
Van de Beek
Weghorst
This should generate about 120-150m for the players we need. I would add Sancho to the list but that's obviously not going to happen.
Martial
Maguire
McTominay
Telles
Tuanzebe
Bailly
Jones
Elanga
Chong
Van de Beek
Weghorst
This should generate about 120-150m for the players we need. I would add Sancho to the list but that's obviously not going to happen.
I think Dean Henderson is a certainty to leave as well.
I think we should hold on to Sancho and McTominay for now. I feel there is more to come from both of them as part of a functional squad.
Yep. And fetch a pretty decent fee as well from what I've been reading.
I'm sure they're both better than what they've shown this year, but am not sure whether they would be ok with being full time squad players. Garnacho and Rashford are likely to occupy the left and it looks like we may buy another top midfielder, which would squeeze McTominay out, especially if Fred and Sabitzer stick around.
Hmmm .. well that worked!
What are your valuations to reach that much
Stay:
Rashford, Antony, Garnacho, Amad, Pellistri
Bruno, Eriksen, Casemiro, Fred
Shaw, Malacia, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Alvaro
Lisandro, Varane, Lindelof
5 attackers, 3 mids, 4 fullbacks and 3 center backs. That's 15 players. Add 2 keepers and you're up to 17, and we need two #9s a #8, a #6, a CB and 2 keepers. That's 21 players, like say this:
----------------------------ST1(ST2)---------------------- / Rashford
Rashford(Garnacho)---------------Antony(Amad) / Pellistri
--------------------------Bruno(Eriksen)--------------- / Amad
----------------#8 (Eriksen)-------------------------------- / Fred
------------------------------Casemiro(#6)--------------- / Mainoo
Shaw(Malacia)----------------------------Dalot(Wan-Bissaka) / Alvaro
----------Lisandro(Lindelof)---Varane(RCB)------- / Shaw
----------------------------GK1(GK2)--------------------------
If we can't handle that many signings, keep De Gea (GK2), Martial (ST2) for a year and then you only need to bring in a #9, a keeper, RCB and 2 midfielders, which should be possible with fees for Sancho, Maguire, McTominay, Henderson. Tired of a giant squad of mediocre players.
9 Defenders for 4 spots, with Alvaro as 5th fullback and Shaw is the 5th CB.
Midfield is a player light but Amad and Mainoo competing to be a 6th guy is fine, they both look promising. Fred gets one last year, then we sign another #8, and Eriksen becomes full-time #10 backup.
Attack looks good with 2 strikers and Rashford as options up top, Garnacho and Amad in their right place as backup looking to improve and Pellistri works hard and has potential, 5th winger, 7th guy in attack for 3 spots feels right.
Rashford, Antony, Garnacho, Amad, Pellistri
Bruno, Eriksen, Casemiro, Fred
Shaw, Malacia, Dalot, Wan-Bissaka, Alvaro
Lisandro, Varane, Lindelof
5 attackers, 3 mids, 4 fullbacks and 3 center backs. That's 15 players. Add 2 keepers and you're up to 17, and we need two #9s a #8, a #6, a CB and 2 keepers. That's 21 players, like say this:
----------------------------ST1(ST2)---------------------- / Rashford
Rashford(Garnacho)---------------Antony(Amad) / Pellistri
--------------------------Bruno(Eriksen)--------------- / Amad
----------------#8 (Eriksen)-------------------------------- / Fred
------------------------------Casemiro(#6)--------------- / Mainoo
Shaw(Malacia)----------------------------Dalot(Wan-Bissaka) / Alvaro
----------Lisandro(Lindelof)---Varane(RCB)------- / Shaw
----------------------------GK1(GK2)--------------------------
If we can't handle that many signings, keep De Gea (GK2), Martial (ST2) for a year and then you only need to bring in a #9, a keeper, RCB and 2 midfielders, which should be possible with fees for Sancho, Maguire, McTominay, Henderson. Tired of a giant squad of mediocre players.
9 Defenders for 4 spots, with Alvaro as 5th fullback and Shaw is the 5th CB.
Midfield is a player light but Amad and Mainoo competing to be a 6th guy is fine, they both look promising. Fred gets one last year, then we sign another #8, and Eriksen becomes full-time #10 backup.
Attack looks good with 2 strikers and Rashford as options up top, Garnacho and Amad in their right place as backup looking to improve and Pellistri works hard and has potential, 5th winger, 7th guy in attack for 3 spots feels right.
I think Henderson, Maguire, McTominay, Martial, and Elanga could get us most of the way. there. We tend to severely undervalue our players because we're frustrated with some their performances, but to many clubs, they are exactly what they want for various roles. Take for instance the press about Henderson going to Forest for 30m. Even if he doesn't go for quite that much, its still an indication that we can probably get much more for some of our more marketable players than many previously believed.
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Maguire,
Martial,
McTominay,
Sancho,
Van Der Beek,
De Gea.
Martial,
McTominay,
Sancho,
Van Der Beek,
De Gea.
Realistically;
- Tuanzebe
- Williams
- Jones
- Henderson
- Bailly
- Telles
- Van der Beek
- Weghorst (love his attitude, just not good enough)
- Sabitzer (unless Bayern massively drop their asking price - not good enough as a starter)
- Martial (just can't stay fit, pointless keeping him)
- Maguire (best for both parties if he moves on)
- Fred (he can be fantastic, but he can also be absolutely diabolical - just far too inconsistent)
Pretty much this, I would add DDG & Williams though. Nothing personal on the Wout front, as far as I can see he's been precisely what we should have expected, a Burnley level warm body that works hard. You are what you is...
The two I'd most like gone are Sancho and Anthony.
Sancho is absolutely done as a top player, and Anthony is too expensive to be seen as a squad player so while he's here he will be starting - and in my opinion there are far, far better wingers that could & should be starters for United.
Sancho is absolutely done as a top player, and Anthony is too expensive to be seen as a squad player so while he's here he will be starting - and in my opinion there are far, far better wingers that could & should be starters for United.
I’d say 115m, my prices above
I think some of the youngsters could be sold too for smaller prices
Fred, Dalot and AWB may be considered too
Lindelof too if ETH would ever return my calls
Not to suggest anything sinister at play, but I can’t help but notice the ‘convenient’ timing of a number of injuries our players on the chopping block seem to pick up.
Last summer, Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams, Wan-Bissaka all conspired to somehow get themselves injured for the entirety of the transfer window despite having played no football, Van de Beek is injured approaching this summer, Scott McTominay is injured approaching this summer and Dean Henderson is injured approaching the summer.
The timing of these are quite annoying, and another obstacle we need to look out for in shifting players this summer.
Last summer, Jones, Tuanzebe, Williams, Wan-Bissaka all conspired to somehow get themselves injured for the entirety of the transfer window despite having played no football, Van de Beek is injured approaching this summer, Scott McTominay is injured approaching this summer and Dean Henderson is injured approaching the summer.
The timing of these are quite annoying, and another obstacle we need to look out for in shifting players this summer.
That's exactly what you're suggesting though
Jones and Tuanzebe were basically crocked 90% of the time, both DvB and Henderson have been injured for several months, the latter wants to leave anyway so being injured is doing him no favours
That's exactly what you're suggesting though
Jones and Tuanzebe were basically crocked 90% of the time, both DvB and Henderson have been injured for several months, the latter wants to leave anyway so being injured is doing him no favours
Tuanzebe was at loan at Stoke, and was expected to go on tour before he pulled out on the eve, initially for ‘personal reasons’ - and then disappeared, apparently injured. He wasn’t injured before the window.
You telling me that VDB and Henderson were injured for months isn’t my point, I specifically said that I’m not suggesting anything sinister - the point is that their injuries are prohibitive. As soon aa VDB got injured, it became doubtful as to whether he would attract a buyer in the summer.
Also worth remembering Greenwood, who may be sold abroad and who knows what fee he could attract? So many factors to consider, but given his talent, it’s not inconceivable that it is considerable.
In order of most urgent to go:
Weghorst
McTominay
De Gea
Maguire
Tuanzebe
Beek
Williams
Telles
Henderson
Martial
If we got a decent offer: Sancho, Lindelof, Dalot
Weghorst
McTominay
De Gea
Maguire
Tuanzebe
Beek
Williams
Telles
Henderson
Martial
If we got a decent offer: Sancho, Lindelof, Dalot
Why that ? He is sh*t. We have given too many players too many time. That’s why we are there.
Hence the smiley - nothing sinister going on really
Players you want to keep might be a smaller list.
Maguire, Martial, Elanga, McTominay, Donny, Williams, Henderson
Should be a fair bit of transfer money there if we can get rid.
Should be a fair bit of transfer money there if we can get rid.
30 million for McTominay
25 million for Maguire
25 million for Dalot
15 million for Martial
15 million for van de Beek
15 million for Henderson
10 million for Elanga
05 million for Williams
05 million for Bailly
05 million for Telles
Whatever we can get for Greenwood
Sabitzer to return to Bayern
Weghorst to return to Burnley
Butland to return to Palace
So that's 14 players going away for me. Generating 150 million in sales, plus whatever we can get for Greenwood, which is a big question mark.
I'd try to send Amad and Pellistri out on loan to EPL teams. Send Mengi, Zidane, Mainoo, Tuanzebe, Hannibal, Shoretire, and Fernandez on loan to wherever.
25 million for Maguire
25 million for Dalot
15 million for Martial
15 million for van de Beek
15 million for Henderson
10 million for Elanga
05 million for Williams
05 million for Bailly
05 million for Telles
Whatever we can get for Greenwood
Sabitzer to return to Bayern
Weghorst to return to Burnley
Butland to return to Palace
So that's 14 players going away for me. Generating 150 million in sales, plus whatever we can get for Greenwood, which is a big question mark.
I'd try to send Amad and Pellistri out on loan to EPL teams. Send Mengi, Zidane, Mainoo, Tuanzebe, Hannibal, Shoretire, and Fernandez on loan to wherever.
Basically any of this lot that are still hanging around on the wage list
Bailly
Telles
Tuanzebe
Brandon Williams
Genuinely have no idea if this lot are out on loan, sold or what.
Bailly
Telles
Tuanzebe
Brandon Williams
Genuinely have no idea if this lot are out on loan, sold or what.
Probably about £80m absolute tops the way we conduct our business.
Tuanzebe is leaving in the summer. His contract his up in July and is not being renewed.
Mctominay
Maguire
Greenwood
Henderson
Van De Beek
Pellistri
Elanga
Martial
Wout
Williams
Telles
Bailly
Maguire
Greenwood
Henderson
Van De Beek
Pellistri
Elanga
Martial
Wout
Williams
Telles
Bailly
In addition to the usual suspects, sell VDB, Henderson, McTominnay and Sancho. There is no point in not giving minutes, rotting in bench and waiting for a player to become non sellable with no value. Take a loss and sell players who don’t make it at United when we could get a resale value.
Exciting to think if we move Martial, Maguire, Bailly it frees up some big time shirts!
3 (Hopefully Kim Ming-Jae as he wears it for Napoli)
4 (Will Rapha move to his favored 4 shirt)
5
7 (Garnacho v. Sancho|)
9 (Kane?)
11 (Would Antony move to this like he did at Ajax)
3 (Hopefully Kim Ming-Jae as he wears it for Napoli)
4 (Will Rapha move to his favored 4 shirt)
5
7 (Garnacho v. Sancho|)
9 (Kane?)
11 (Would Antony move to this like he did at Ajax)
The only player I'm really curious about is a certain 'Mr Freshtimber'. We would be a whole other proposition with him back, recent issues notwithstanding.
And I would not like to see AWB, de Gea, Anthony or Fred leave just yet, as I think they can improve and be useful squad members.
And I would not like to see AWB, de Gea, Anthony or Fred leave just yet, as I think they can improve and be useful squad members.
Think the total sales number will be closer to 85m (see valuations above) or if Greenwood goes maybe 95m. Highly doubt we will surpass 100m.