Players you 100% want to leave in the summer

devilish said:
There are many players I'd love to see gone. However Rome is not built in one day and considering FFP, the club ownership change etc, we need to be less ambitious in terms of changes

GK: DDG, Henderson, Heaton - I'd say keep them all. Henderson has been injured for most of the season so we won't fetch any real money of him. DDG will probably stay even with a pay cut and Heaton provides an experienced no 3

RB: AWB and Dalot. Neither player is world class but both had improved this year. We can live another season with them around

CB: Varane, Martinez, Lindelof and Ndicka. I think selling Maguire is a must. He's on silly salary, he's become a meme and he's got that one big mistake per game in him

LB: Shaw, Malacia, Alvaro Fernandez.

DM: Casemiro, Rice. Casemiro is, alongside Rashy, the corner stone of this season campaign success. Yet he's 31, he likes his yellow cards and legs are the first to go. Rice has just 1 year left in his contract. He tops the EPL in terms of distance covered and interceptions + he is a natural leader. I think that we should get the man

MC: Tielemans, McT - Tielemans on a free is a no brainer. He's 25, he's a technical deep lying play maker and I can see him pair magnificently with Casemiro or Rice in midfield. I'd keep McT as he's homegrown, he doesn't mind the bench too much and I think he'll do better further up the pitch.

AMC: Bruno, Eriksen

AMR: Antony, Sancho, Pellistri - At that salary I doubt anyone would want to buy Sancho this season and quite frankly we've got bigger problems to settle then that of finding a new club for him. I think this will be the make or break year for Sancho. If he fails then he'll have no excuses

AML: Rashford, Garnacho

STK: Muani, David - some might think that adding two strikers is overkill but its not the case

a- I am uncomfortable with spending some 100m on 1 striker. There aren't any safe bets out there that guarantee goals (ex RVN, Shearer, Batistuta type). The closest there is to that is Kane and spending 100m on a player of his age is crazy. Thus we'll better off distributing the stakes on two players. It's safer and puts less pressure on the players that way

b- I still believe that Greenwood can return and do well. Thus a year on loan, possibly at a friendly club (Ruud's PSV)? would contribute in removing the rust and score those 20-30 goals he need to get the fans warming up to his return.


Let go/Sell: Jones, Maguire, Telles, Fred, Elanga, VDB, Bailly
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Oh my god talk about slow safety and seriously underwhelming to say the least. That is just the kind of summer our leeches are dreaming about having which makes me sick
 
DRJosh said:
I wouldn't be surprised if we have Maguire and Martial in our squad next season. That's how painfully inept we are in clearing deadwood on high wages. Ronaldo was the exception
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Mostly down to the fact no one else wants them. Or unless we accept really low fees for them just to clear them out of the club, even then their wage demand will be too much for other clubs. Maguire has so much self belief he won’t accept less and will think a transfer means an increase in wages.
 
AbusementPark said:
Mostly down to the fact no one else wants them. Or unless we accept really low fees for them just to clear them out of the club, even then their wage demand will be too much for other clubs. Maguire has so much self belief he won’t accept less and will think a transfer means an increase in wages.
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Maguire’s deluded self-confidence is a complete joke.

Even if we struck a loan deal out for him to a Serie A club, that would be progress, with us paying 50% of his wages.
 
DickDastardly said:
Realistic list:

Maguire - 10 million
McTominay - 15 million
Martial - 10 million
Sancho - loan back to BVB
Weghorst - don't renew the loan
Sabitzer - see above
Fred - 10 million
Jones - release
Williams - 2 million
Bailly - 3 million
Henderson - 10 million
DDG - 5 million
Telles - 2 million
Elanga - 4 million

That's a cull.

Do half of that and it's a start.
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All mentally undervalued, apart from Telles who i would give away.

I'd give DvB away too he's that bad.
 
Yorke to Cole said:
Joel Glazer,
Avram Glazer
Richard Arn.....oh sorry you meant players.
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We can talk about players and managers until the cows come home but winning and losing mentality comes from the top.

Last night and every other dodgy performance is influenced by our organisational culture.

Therefore after every loss the most important thread is this one, rather than the multitude of other moanfests that pop up.
 
Jones
Martial
Maguire
Bailly
Sancho
Telles
van de Beek
Maguire
Martial
Williams
Jones
Fred
Elanga
Sancho
Henderson
McTominay
Fred
Greenwood
Wout
and Maguire
 
Talking about a 100% meaning it doesn't matter if we don't get a replacement:

Maguire
McTominay
Jones
Tuanzebe
VdB
Elanga
Telles
Williams
Weghorst

Players that wouldn't mind letting do if we get a replacement:

De Gea
Fred
Martial
Sancho
 
Phil Jones, Bailly, Telles, Tuanzebe, Williams, Henderson, Weghorst (just don't buy him)

90% want to leave - Maguire, Martial, Fred, Van der Beek

We also need to get in a replacement keeper for De Gea. Within 2 years he should be gone.
 
To be honest I only want AWB, Varane, Martinez, Shaw, Casemiro, Eriksen, Fernandes, Garnacho and Rashford to stay and would be happy to cool with anyone else being moved on.
 
Phil Jones
Harry Maguire
Eric Bailly
Jadon Sancho
Alex Telles
Donny van de Beek
Brandon Williams
Fred
Anthony Elanga
Dean Henderson
Scott McTominay
Mason Greenwood
Wout (don't sign him)
Sabitzer (don't sign him unless it's backup on top of 1/2 other midfield signings)

Anthony Martial - Would add to the list but feel like he's going to be forced to be a backup to a striker we sign because we won't be able to offload him.
 
Henderson
AWB
Telles
Bailly
Jones
Maguire
McTominay
Fred
VDB
Sancho
Martial
Elanga
Weghorst
Greenwood

Wouldn't bother me in any way if all these went. None of them are good enough bar the last one but hes gone for obvious reasons.
 
croadyman said:
Oh my god talk about slow safety and seriously underwhelming to say the least. That is just the kind of summer our leeches are dreaming about having which makes me sick
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Look mate its so easy to come up with a list of 8 players out and 7 players in. However that rarely happens, we lack the people capable to handle such high turnover and quite frankly such strategy rarely really worked. Not to forget that we've got FFP issues + new owners are coming in, possibly in the middle of a summer transfer window.

In Ndicka we'll have a top reserve CB, Rice is the perfect competition/successor for Casemiro, Tielemans is quite a talented player. He'll add creativity and improve our passing when we needed it but wouldn't look so awkward to sit on the bench and let the likes of Casemiro and Rice play. Muani and David have great potential. Again neither player would kick a fuss if they end up on the bench.

Rome was not built in a day. If we improve our quality strength in depth and solve our STK problem then I am happy.
 
DickDastardly said:
Realistic list:

Maguire - 10 million
McTominay - 15 million
Martial - 10 million
Sancho - loan back to BVB
Weghorst - don't renew the loan
Sabitzer - see above
Fred - 10 million
Jones - release
Williams - 2 million
Bailly - 3 million
Henderson - 10 million
DDG - 5 million
Telles - 2 million
Elanga - 4 million

That's a cull.

Do half of that and it's a start.
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I would say the Maguire, McTominay and Martial prices are off the mark. De Gea will be out of contract, I think?

Maguire - £25m-£30m (Will be good for lower clubs; I think they will stump up more than £10m). Perhaps could push a bit more than that even.
McTominay - £25m (Same as above)
Martial - free (I can't see anyone buying him with his injury issues; doubt he will leave at all, to be honest)
Sancho - loan back to BVB (I think there would be teams willing to take a risk; depending on whether he is willing to leave, I could see about £40m) - If Antony Gordon can go for £40m, surely Sancho could go for something around that
Weghorst - don't renew the loan
Sabitzer - see above
Fred - 10 million
Jones - release
Williams - 2 million
Bailly - 3 million
Henderson - 10 million (Possibly a bit more, but he hasn't been playing much recently so that will dent his value)
DDG - free
Telles - 2 million
Elanga - 4 million

I think we could get a good £100m or so out of that, without pricing the players out of the market.
 
How much would we get for that guy we don't talk about? You know, 'Stoneworker Verdantforest'
 
SAFMUTD said:
Talking about a 100% meaning it doesn't matter if we don't get a replacement:

Maguire
McTominay
Jones
Tuanzebe
VdB
Elanga
Telles
Williams
Weghorst

Players that wouldn't mind letting do if we get a replacement:

De Gea
Fred
Martial
Sancho
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Without getting a replacement i would keep McT or VdB just for some depth. I give Sancho another season too. Otherwise i like the list.

Maguire is the player i want gone the most.
 
Lecland07 said:
I would say the Maguire, McTominay and Martial prices are off the mark. De Gea will be out of contract, I think?

Maguire - £25m-£30m (Will be good for lower clubs; I think they will stump up more than £10m). Perhaps could push a bit more than that even.
McTominay - £25m (Same as above)
Martial - free (I can't see anyone buying him with his injury issues; doubt he will leave at all, to be honest)
Sancho - loan back to BVB (I think there would be teams willing to take a risk; depending on whether he is willing to leave, I could see about £40m) - If Antony Gordon can go for £40m, surely Sancho could go for something around that
Weghorst - don't renew the loan
Sabitzer - see above
Fred - 10 million
Jones - release
Williams - 2 million
Bailly - 3 million
Henderson - 10 million (Possibly a bit more, but he hasn't been playing much recently so that will dent his value)
DDG - free
Telles - 2 million
Elanga - 4 million

I think we could get a good £100m or so out of that, without pricing the players out of the market.
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agree with the revised numbers for sure. Not sure id really let sancho go unless someone comes in with a pretty big offer. Just gotta hope he sorts his stuff out with an offseason under EtH. Having Rashford and antony starting wingers, then prob rotating garnacho/sancho/amad as the 3 wing options would be my thoughts. There are going to be a lot of games again next season. Good chance rashford could be our backup CF as well, so having that extra option wide would be good. Yeah sancho has been disappointing but there have been times he hasnt looked horrendous.
 
De Gea, Maguire, Martial, Wan-Bissaka, Van de Beek, Elanga
 
It's entirely dependent upon the players we're able to bring in.

One way or another we'll be competing in four competitions again next season, and if there's three things you can count on in life, it's death, taxes, and United facing an injury crisis at some point every season. So we if show 10 players the door and only bring in 5, once half the team is out injured at whatever point it happens, we'll be good and screwed.

The two main players we should be looking to sell are Maguire and McTominay. I say that because neither are good enough for United, but are both players that mid-table teams would actually probably be willing to pay some money for. Maybe we can get 40 million between the pair of them.

I would be all for us selling Sancho, Martial, and van de Beek, but I have my doubts that any club would actually be willing to pay for any of them, Sancho because of his high wages, and the other two because they cannot stay fit. I think we're stuck with the first two, and maybe by some miracle some stupid club will pay 5 million for vdB.

I'm all for selling Elanga, Williams, Bailly, and Telles. Maybe if we're lucky we could get 5 million for each of them.

I hope beyond hope that the club do the right thing and get rid of Greenwood. I don't know what's going on with that situation but I'm assuming he's still under contract and can be sold? If so, sell him for whatever we can get.

Send Weghorst back to wherever he came from. Sabitzer, I really can't say right now. Maybe keep him and sell Fred?
 
We will continue to be "a summer away" from fixing our issues unless we jettison about 11 players who have proven time and time again over many years that they just can't cut it here when it matters.

Spending £200m on 3 players a summer is an absolute mugs game and we'll never compete by doing that.
 
Stadjer said:
Without getting a replacement i would keep McT or VdB just for some depth. I give Sancho another season too. Otherwise i like the list.

Maguire is the player i want gone the most.
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I think thats pretty much unanimous.:wenger:
 
There's a couple of categories. There are the ones who should be easier to shift by either releasing them, providing heavily incentivised deals to leave or not renewing loans: De Gea, Butland, Jones, Bailly, Tuanzebe, Telles, Sabitzer and Weghorst.

Then there are the others who we should be looking to shift if we can get the right deal, but might prove a bit more complicated: Henderson, Wan-Bissaka, Maguire, Williams, McTominay, van de Beek, Elanga and possibly Sancho. To be fair, there's even an argument for 2 or 3 of these to belong in the category above. We need to be far more ruthless with the players we hang onto if we're going to commit to a proper rebuild.
 
Maguire, Telles, VdB, Weghorst, Jones, McT, Henderson, Elanga, Williams, Bailly
 
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Like half the team is not worthy to wear the shirt but at this point, I've just come to accept that the club will never sanction a mass clearout and so we continue to stumble along and hope one day we hit the jackpot somehow and magically end up being a well-run club.
 
Weird Because you need to have the back ups. Like if we got rid of Martial then couldn’t bring anyone in that would be stupid. Or if you even only bring in one striker and get rid of him that would be stupid. However if we can get replacements for these players then all good.

Maguire
Jones
Telles
Bailly
Elanga
Williams
Henderson
Maguire
Maguire
Maguire
Maguire

I’d consider parting ways with these if we had guaranteed upgrades

McT
Fred
Dalot
Martial
DVB
 
L1nk said:
Phil Jones
Harry Maguire
Eric Bailly
Jadon Sancho
Alex Telles
Donny van de Beek
Brandon Williams
Fred
Anthony Elanga
Dean Henderson
Scott McTominay
Mason Greenwood
Wout (don't sign him)
Sabitzer (don't sign him unless it's backup on top of 1/2 other midfield signings)

Anthony Martial - Would add to the list but feel like he's going to be forced to be a backup to a striker we sign because we won't be able to offload him.
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From a playing point of view, I would much rather have Greenwood than Martial. I am sick of watching him and his softness and lack of timing with his receiving, turning and passing of the ball. I think that has deteriorated over the past 18 months with Martial. There is a reason he impresses during pre season and that is because the pace is slower.

From Greenwood's perspective it depends if the club want to take the "easy route" of cancel culture or take the time out to question why a player they had developed since the age of 6 had gone off the rails in his private life. Was their responsibility of the club to keep an eye on their young players. Is it a reflection on how bad our administration under Woodward has been and since Ferguson left? Was Ole too soft?

Will the club try go the hard route and actually try to rehabilitate a young man with anger issues! I have not commented on this issue till now.

One thing is for sure, I am not certain that I Trust Arnold to deal with the issue. I had hopes that he would he would be better than Woodward, but the De Jong saga (being pictured with Barcelona officials), the fact he seems slow and laborious in his dealings with the club. Why take so long with the Greenwood issue? If you do not have intentions of retaining him, release so he find another club and try rebuild his life?

I may get pelters from other posters and people on this, but I feel strongly about why this club, under this ownership and this administration is so cumbersome with everything and every decision it makes and every practice it does.

In my own personal life, I hate indecision. You do not see Guardiola and Man City taking an age to make a choice and this culture within our club has to be eradicated. You can start to see the frustration in Ten Hag as he is trying to prepare for next season but he does not know which player to approach or not. Very poor from this club and it should not be accepted!
 
De Gea
Maguire
McTominay
Elanga
Weghorst
DvdB
Jones
Telles
Williams
Bailly

Martial, Sancho, Henderson I want to leave too but don't feel as strongly about. Sabitzer I'd lean towards not keep too.
 
Yorke to Cole said:
From a playing point of view, I would much rather have Greenwood than Martial. I am sick of watching him and his softness and lack of timing with his receiving, turning and passing of the ball. I think that has deteriorated over the past 18 months with Martial. There is a reason he impresses during pre season and that is because the pace is slower.

From Greenwood's perspective it depends if the club want to take the "easy route" of cancel culture or take the time out to question why a player they had developed since the age of 6 had gone off the rails in his private life. Was their responsibility of the club to keep an eye on their young players. Is it a reflection on how bad our administration under Woodward has been and since Ferguson left? Was Ole too soft?

Will the club try go the hard route and actually try to rehabilitate a young man with anger issues! I have not commented on this issue till now.

One thing is for sure, I am not certain that I Trust Arnold to deal with the issue. I had hopes that he would he would be better than Woodward, but the De Jong saga (being pictured with Barcelona officials), the fact he seems slow and laborious in his dealings with the club. Why take so long with the Greenwood issue? If you do not have intentions of retaining him, release so he find another club and try rebuild his life?

I may get pelters from other posters and people on this, but I feel strongly about why this club, under this ownership and this administration is so cumbersome with everything and every decision it makes and every practice it does.

In my own personal life, I hate indecision. You do not see Guardiola and Man City taking an age to make a choice and this culture within our club has to be eradicated. You can start to see the frustration in Ten Hag as he is trying to prepare for next season but he does not know which player to approach or not. Very poor from this club and it should not be accepted!
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I'm not going to get too much into it because I still don't know what the forums policy is on that situation. From a purely playing perspective yes, instead of Martial. However this isn't simply 'cancel culture.' If you listened to that audio and you think it's worth the unmitigated damage this club will suffer reputation wise just to have someone score a few goals then I don't know what to say, United as a club will live on when and if that player departs. I also don't believe the club is at fault, or Ole etc, after all, no one else in the squad has done it have they? So why does the club have to accept any responsibility or fault.

Legally it is what it is, but I've personally looked at the evidence that is out there and drawn my own conclusion.

In terms of indecisions and the club and how it operates, nothing will change until the Glazers leave, so hopefully after this summer that will change.
 
You just know Sancho's going to rip it up wherever he goes next. Galling, but still.
 
Out of the ones that get any minutes for us:

AWB
Fred
De Gea
Maguire
McTominay
Sancho
Elanga
DvB
Martial
 
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