Everyone can have a 5 apart from Scholes. Maybe Giggs and Ole deserve a mention too.
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Originally posted by Livvie20:
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Maybe?? Ole was up there with Scholes - he fought for every ball, he had shots at goal, he was even back in defence at one point. And he showed a fair bit of skill on several occasions. Don't let the fact that we lost blind anyone to the fact that today Ole Gunnar was 100% better than Ruud.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I agreed with you Ole is definately the player that show much hunger to get the ball. IF IF his header would have gone in....
A lot of them can have a naught
Ginger prince was on his own and deserves a 8 for effort
Veron was on the pitch far too long again
Ginger prince was on his own and deserves a 8 for effort
Veron was on the pitch far too long again
Barthez : 7, Should have stopped Goater's shot for the first goal, though kept us in the game in the first half with a good save one on one with anelka
G.Neville : 3, Never seen him play so badly, let alone the mistake, he gave away the ball on numerous occasions..
Ferdinand : 5, Seen him play better
Blanc : 4, Wasn't too good, he played too deep and gave man city attackers too much time on the ball..
Silvestre : 4, Crap
Solskjaer : 7, Our best player by far
Veron : 4, Nothing short of crap from him, should have done better..
Scholes : 5, Did ok, but not so good by his high standards..
P.Neville : 3, Had an absolute crap game, at fault for the first goal..
Giggs : 4, Should have done better considering his talent.
Nistelrooy : 5, Can't really blame him, again Ferguson put his talent to waste..
I really think that SAF was the man to blame for this match. He got it completely wrong... He's been great for us, but this should be his last year. That is not a knee jerk reaction....
What was he thinking bringing Forlan on and putting him on the right midfield. P.Neville should have come off not Veron. Yeah he wasn't playing too good but at least he can attack better than P.Neville...
Extremely poor...
G.Neville : 3, Never seen him play so badly, let alone the mistake, he gave away the ball on numerous occasions..
Ferdinand : 5, Seen him play better
Blanc : 4, Wasn't too good, he played too deep and gave man city attackers too much time on the ball..
Silvestre : 4, Crap
Solskjaer : 7, Our best player by far
Veron : 4, Nothing short of crap from him, should have done better..
Scholes : 5, Did ok, but not so good by his high standards..
P.Neville : 3, Had an absolute crap game, at fault for the first goal..
Giggs : 4, Should have done better considering his talent.
Nistelrooy : 5, Can't really blame him, again Ferguson put his talent to waste..
I really think that SAF was the man to blame for this match. He got it completely wrong... He's been great for us, but this should be his last year. That is not a knee jerk reaction....
What was he thinking bringing Forlan on and putting him on the right midfield. P.Neville should have come off not Veron. Yeah he wasn't playing too good but at least he can attack better than P.Neville...
Extremely poor...
Today was the worst I'd ever seen Ruud. I cringed every time he went down in the box having been "fouled".
This was one match where we really, really
missed Roy Keane.. Without Keane we will never win the Prem..
missed Roy Keane.. Without Keane we will never win the Prem..
Originally posted by sebaveron:
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I really think that SAF was the man to blame for this match. He got it completely wrong... He's been great for us, but this should be his last year. That is not a knee jerk reaction....
Extremely poor...
What do you expect him to do? sack the entire team after the match....? look at the option at the moment!
Originally posted by Gazza:
<strong>Today was the worst I'd ever seen Ruud. I cringed every time he went down in the box having been "fouled".</strong><hr></blockquote>
true but many times Van Nistelrooy was just up there on his own. Today we should have gone 4 4 2, but still we persist with 4 5 1
Originally posted by pjaya:
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What do you expect him to do? sack the entire team after the match....? look at the option at the moment!</strong><hr></blockquote>
i dont mean the team he picked, i meant how he deployed them... Dont you think it would hav been better if we went something like
barthez
g.nev - rio - blanc - mick
veron - p.nev - scholes - giggs
ole - ruud
but he persisted 4 5 1
Originally posted by WeasteDevil:
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We had all better find another club to support then for after he retires!
Who are you going for? I think I'll choose Arsenal.</strong><hr></blockquote>
<img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> <img src="graemlins/nono.gif" border="0" alt="[No No]" />
Originally posted by sebaveron:
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i dont mean the team he picked, i meant how he deployed them... Dont you think it would hav been better if we went something like
barthez
g.nev - rio - blanc - mick
veron - p.nev - scholes - giggs
ole - ruud
but he persisted 4 5 1
isn't it this how the match started?
Originally posted by sebaveron:
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i dont mean the team he picked, i meant how he deployed them... Dont you think it would hav been better if we went something like
barthez
g.nev - rio - blanc - mick
veron - p.nev - scholes - giggs
ole - ruud
but he persisted 4 5 1
i was talking for the current moment and the current squad of players we have.. when bryan robson left i bet many said the same thing. if roy keane doesnt get back and quick this season will be gone down the drain, well the premiership anyway...
Originally posted by sebaveron:
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i was talking for the current moment and the current squad of players we have.. when bryan robson left i bet many said the same thing. if roy keane doesnt get back and quick this season will be gone down the drain, well the premiership anyway...
oops i meant to quote WeasteDevil <img src="graemlins/annoyed.gif" border="0" alt="[Annoyed]" />
Originally posted by pjaya:
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isn't it this how the match started?
erm we started 4 5 1.....
Fab - almost redeemed himself, not quite. 5
G Nev - very poor. 4
Blanc - out-paced 5
Rio - caught out of position a few times 5
Silvestre - uniformly poor 5
Solskjear - put in the effort 7
Scholes - again, put in the effort 7
Giggs - showed some signs, but got caught on the ball far too often - 6
P Nev - looked out of place - 4
Ruud - very poor showing by his standards - 4
Forlan - usual - 5
O'Shea - if only he'd scored... 5
G Nev - very poor. 4
Blanc - out-paced 5
Rio - caught out of position a few times 5
Silvestre - uniformly poor 5
Solskjear - put in the effort 7
Scholes - again, put in the effort 7
Giggs - showed some signs, but got caught on the ball far too often - 6
P Nev - looked out of place - 4
Ruud - very poor showing by his standards - 4
Forlan - usual - 5
O'Shea - if only he'd scored... 5
Scholes and Ole were the only two players performing at anything like the right level...both were involved throughout and creating problems for the opposition. Score them as 7's. Fabs was ok apart from the first goal, where he was again exposed by defensive errors. Give him a 6. O'Shea was ok after he came on - worth a 6.
Everyone else no better than 3 or 4...a long way short of premiership form.
Include the manager in that as well.....the substitutions should have been made at half-time. It was clear that the defence was nowhere and likely to leak another soft goal..why wait for it to happen ?
Everyone else no better than 3 or 4...a long way short of premiership form.
Include the manager in that as well.....the substitutions should have been made at half-time. It was clear that the defence was nowhere and likely to leak another soft goal..why wait for it to happen ?
Barthez 6: can play better
Gary Nevlle 4: a disaster. The captain armband may be too heavy for him?
Blanc 6: Though too slow, there is still class in his position and tackling.
Rio 4.5: another complete disaster. Poor positioning and slow responese. What's wrong with him?
Silverstre 6.5: he's indeed one of our better player today.
Veron 4.5: Disaster number three. Unlike Gary and Rio, this one is a "consistent disaster".
Scholes 6: not his best, but at least he showed passion and committment.
Phil Neville 5.5: another player who fought for every ball, though his skill and flair has failed him.
Giggs 5.5: Very disappointing. His form this season has dropped dramatically.
Ruud 5: Too easy to lose the ball. Not sharp enough and quite clumsy.
Ole 6.5: Score one goal and fought tirelessly.
Forlan 5.5
O'Shea 6
Gary Nevlle 4: a disaster. The captain armband may be too heavy for him?
Blanc 6: Though too slow, there is still class in his position and tackling.
Rio 4.5: another complete disaster. Poor positioning and slow responese. What's wrong with him?
Silverstre 6.5: he's indeed one of our better player today.
Veron 4.5: Disaster number three. Unlike Gary and Rio, this one is a "consistent disaster".
Scholes 6: not his best, but at least he showed passion and committment.
Phil Neville 5.5: another player who fought for every ball, though his skill and flair has failed him.
Giggs 5.5: Very disappointing. His form this season has dropped dramatically.
Ruud 5: Too easy to lose the ball. Not sharp enough and quite clumsy.
Ole 6.5: Score one goal and fought tirelessly.
Forlan 5.5
O'Shea 6
Originally posted by blythy:
<strong>Fab - almost redeemed himself, not quite. 5
G Nev - very poor. 4
Blanc - out-paced 5
Rio - caught out of position a few times 5
Silvestre - uniformly poor 5
Solskjear - put in the effort 7
Scholes - again, put in the effort 7
Giggs - showed some signs, but got caught on the ball far too often - 6
P Nev - looked out of place - 4
Ruud - very poor showing by his standards - 4
Forlan - usual - 5
O'Shea - if only he'd scored... 5</strong><hr></blockquote>
no Veron? Or you want to give him a "zero"?
Originally posted by blythy:
<strong>Fab - almost redeemed himself, not quite. 5
G Nev - very poor. 4
Blanc - out-paced 5
Rio - caught out of position a few times 5
Silvestre - uniformly poor 5
Solskjear - put in the effort 7
Scholes - again, put in the effort 7
Giggs - showed some signs, but got caught on the ball far too often - 6
P Nev - looked out of place - 4
Ruud - very poor showing by his standards - 4
Forlan - usual - 5
O'Shea - if only he'd scored... 5</strong><hr></blockquote>
Veron?
You left him out on purpose didn't you?
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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no Veron? Or you want to give him a "zero"?
Veron - forgettable performance
Originally posted by blythy:
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Veron - forgettable performance
Forgettable player. In the PL.
Barthez 7 saved our ass
G Nev 5 very poor
Blanc 4 My grandma would run faster
silvestre 6 Not bad
R Ferdinand 6 couldnt protect Blanc's arse for the entire 90min
Veron 6+ out of place but classy
P Nev 4 Who made him a player
Scholes 6 fought for the ball
Giggs 7 creative
RVN 6 He should complain less and deliver more
OGS 6+ Great goal and the most dangerous on the pitch
OShea 6 stopped the defense from looking ridiculous.
Forlan 6 Worked hard
G Nev 5 very poor
Blanc 4 My grandma would run faster
silvestre 6 Not bad
R Ferdinand 6 couldnt protect Blanc's arse for the entire 90min
Veron 6+ out of place but classy
P Nev 4 Who made him a player
Scholes 6 fought for the ball
Giggs 7 creative
RVN 6 He should complain less and deliver more
OGS 6+ Great goal and the most dangerous on the pitch
OShea 6 stopped the defense from looking ridiculous.
Forlan 6 Worked hard
The problem about Rio is that he cannot cover Blanc's pace and defend his position at the same time
If Blanc is not delivering and not leading our defense ( which was in chaos) then way the heck hes playing
If Blanc is not delivering and not leading our defense ( which was in chaos) then way the heck hes playing
Bart: 5 - we can't blame him for any of their goals but on a good day he'd have saved at least two of them.
GNE: 3 - gave the ball away for the match winning goal.
Rio: 2 - did ok for the last 20 mins hence the rather good rating.
Blanc: 4 - could've done more to stop two of their goals.
Micky: 6 - only defender to play ok.
Giggs: 6 - ok, created our goal and could've scored or created more goals.
Scholes: 8 - he was playing.
PNE: 3 - poor, bad passes from him cost two goals.
Veron: 4 - had a few good passes in the first half but then went missing.
Ole: 7 - unlucky not to score more than one goal.
RVN: 2 - I'm sorry but if he keeps diving I want him sold, I rather lose than win cheating.
Forlan: 4 - was he even playing?
O'Shea: 6 - how did he miss? But for that miss he was quality as always.
GNE: 3 - gave the ball away for the match winning goal.
Rio: 2 - did ok for the last 20 mins hence the rather good rating.
Blanc: 4 - could've done more to stop two of their goals.
Micky: 6 - only defender to play ok.
Giggs: 6 - ok, created our goal and could've scored or created more goals.
Scholes: 8 - he was playing.
PNE: 3 - poor, bad passes from him cost two goals.
Veron: 4 - had a few good passes in the first half but then went missing.
Ole: 7 - unlucky not to score more than one goal.
RVN: 2 - I'm sorry but if he keeps diving I want him sold, I rather lose than win cheating.
Forlan: 4 - was he even playing?
O'Shea: 6 - how did he miss? But for that miss he was quality as always.
Barthez - 7
G.Neville - 4
Ferdinand - 4
Blanc - 5
Silvestre - 5
Veron - 5
Scholes - 7
P.Neville - 5
Giggs - 4
Ole - 7
Ruud - 6
G.Neville - 4
Ferdinand - 4
Blanc - 5
Silvestre - 5
Veron - 5
Scholes - 7
P.Neville - 5
Giggs - 4
Ole - 7
Ruud - 6
Originally posted by uranushk1:
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your rating is quite dramatic... but I agree with most of your comments.</strong><hr></blockquote>
If we're rating from 1-10 why not use the whole scale?
Maybe I'm OTT but I'm really disappointed and well, that's it really.
leadership is an issue
yes Rio did a mistake but if Blanc was a littlye winney more pacey Goater would have never linked with Anelka again. Instead he first took a coffee, kissed his gf and then passed to anelka.
The second goal was even more a classic. G nev was out classed but running inside the defense like going out to the park is ridiculous.
Our defense was shaky AND panicky, for god sake why having a 37 yr old if this is the result
yes Rio did a mistake but if Blanc was a littlye winney more pacey Goater would have never linked with Anelka again. Instead he first took a coffee, kissed his gf and then passed to anelka.
The second goal was even more a classic. G nev was out classed but running inside the defense like going out to the park is ridiculous.
Our defense was shaky AND panicky, for god sake why having a 37 yr old if this is the result
Barthez 6 Could have done better on one of the goals, yet made another great save.
G Nev 4 Awful, as bad a mistake as Enkelmann's
Blanc 5 Great when he manages to get to the ball, but oh, we're all so wrong mentioning his pace aren't we. Anelka tore us apart.
R Ferdinand 4 Couldn't believe it was him I was watching as Anelka muscled him off the ball for the first, and then outpaced him. Won't happen often, but terrible game.
Silvestre 5 Why couldn't he deliver one decent cross, he had enough attempts!
Veron 3 Invisible, utterly absent
P Nev 3 Drowned he was so out of his depth, second division performance, at best.
Scholes 8 Showed commitment, bite, and creativity, but it takes more than one man!
Giggs 6 Showed commitment, but little to show for it.
RVN 4 Dived and didn't have one shot on goal, his worst performance for us.
OGS 7 Looked up for it and was a threat.
OShea 6 Did ok, better than Gary! But what a fecking miss!
Forlan 6 Held his own in a team that had thrown in the towel
G Nev 4 Awful, as bad a mistake as Enkelmann's
Blanc 5 Great when he manages to get to the ball, but oh, we're all so wrong mentioning his pace aren't we. Anelka tore us apart.
R Ferdinand 4 Couldn't believe it was him I was watching as Anelka muscled him off the ball for the first, and then outpaced him. Won't happen often, but terrible game.
Silvestre 5 Why couldn't he deliver one decent cross, he had enough attempts!
Veron 3 Invisible, utterly absent
P Nev 3 Drowned he was so out of his depth, second division performance, at best.
Scholes 8 Showed commitment, bite, and creativity, but it takes more than one man!
Giggs 6 Showed commitment, but little to show for it.
RVN 4 Dived and didn't have one shot on goal, his worst performance for us.
OGS 7 Looked up for it and was a threat.
OShea 6 Did ok, better than Gary! But what a fecking miss!
Forlan 6 Held his own in a team that had thrown in the towel
My full first team
Barthez
G Nev - W Brown/O Shea Ferdinand Silvestre
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
- RVN - Solskjear
Barthez
G Nev - W Brown/O Shea Ferdinand Silvestre
Beckham Keane Scholes Giggs
- RVN - Solskjear
Barthez 6
G. Neville 4 (maybe he can´t handle the pressure as captain?)
Blanc 6
Ferdinand 4 (his worst display in a red shirt)
Silvestre 6
P. Neville 5
Veron 5 ( with no keane and no beckham ( who takes him the space according to some here, he was still poor). IMO he just doesn´t fit to the style of play in the PL.
Scholes 7
Giggs 6
RVN 5
OGS 7
O´Shea 6
Forlan 6
G. Neville 4 (maybe he can´t handle the pressure as captain?)
Blanc 6
Ferdinand 4 (his worst display in a red shirt)
Silvestre 6
P. Neville 5
Veron 5 ( with no keane and no beckham ( who takes him the space according to some here, he was still poor). IMO he just doesn´t fit to the style of play in the PL.
Scholes 7
Giggs 6
RVN 5
OGS 7
O´Shea 6
Forlan 6