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Phone Sky And Cancel MUTV
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No thanks
I haven't seen MUTV in years. I used to like Steve Bower.
We cancelling because we aren’t getting Jadon Sancho
If we get him do we re-subscribe? I’m down I just want to know exactly what I have to do.
It's not a protest at not signing a player. It's the fact that we should be the the most valuable club in the world, but we're run like a shambolic business.
Oh okay. What’s the evidence?
MUTV is terrible, I'm surprised people still pay for that channel to keep them going.
Is this a windup?
Our transfer activity always end up as drawn out sagas leading to panic buys. We have the funds to get the players in order to mount a title challenge, but won't spend. The stadium needs attention, but there's no investment.
If things don't turn around soon, our fanbase will start declining. Such a shame after everything that was accomplished in the last 30 years.
Paint the caf green and gold ?
As an alternative, the streaming services is less than £30 a year right now - that's just over a couple of quid a month - and you can watch it on TV on the app
Boycotting?
Down with this sort of thing...
Down with this sort of thing...
Don't make comments like this man. Paddy doesn't have dementia as far as we know and thank God for that.
So transfersWhich is exactly my point.
You seemed to imply that the anti glazer sentiment was a reaction to the Sancho situation. We're in need of several players in order to seriously compete, and the Stadium needs some investment.
If other clubs are investing where they're able, why aren't we?
You don't see it this way?
Is it? The one I'm in is quiet...
Careful now
We have, we badly spent the money but there isn't actually a lot of clubs that have invested more on their football teams than United.
As someone correctly mentioned earlier, we are not fans for the owners, we are customers. They do not care much about success on the pitch they care more about the value of the club growing. They put a huge debt on the club to own it and have taken out more money to manage the debt which is growing again. For me Man Utd are football club first and foremost. The more fans become vocal about the current ownership the better. If we can deprive the leeches of 1 pound individually, we should do it. Scousers managed to do it, can we fooking not?
Get iptv and stick it to the lot of them. BBC included, paying tv licence on top of a subscription. Rant over
And call them again and renew it if we buy Jadon Sancho. Our fans are getting more ridiculous by the day.
This did make me chuckle
Like wise, it's dreadful. Fuelled full of propaganda rubbish. The main commentator on there is woeful.
With players coming and going, we haven't invested too heavily in the last three years, but even if we had, what is the club's strategy now? They're not going to invest heavily because it hasn't worked?
Obviously there is the moral aspect of throwing money away in a world where there is a lot of need, I get that.
However, if United is a club that regards itself as one of the biggest in the world, they have no choice but to trust the manager's vision and invest in it. If not, what is the club trying to achieve?
There's been an awful lot of bad posts here recently, but this is possibly the worst I've read.
Never had it to begin with
If we sign Sancho, you will stop moaning. This is all transfer-addiction induced, let’s not deceive ourselves.
A couple of years ago I started a thread saying the same thing (see below). I defended Ed and the Glazers, and claimed that we had too many spoilt crybabies in our fanbase.
However, the last few years have really shown me that there are major trust issues between the board and the manager, and this filters through to the team.
What about this for a u-turn.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/why...d-and-the-glazers-sorry-i-dont-follow.441077/
We have invested heavily, we have one of the largest wage bill in the world and are one of the club that spend the most on transfer fees. I mean we are talking about a club that had a budget over 580m£ in 2019. The issue is that some of you aren't grounded in reality, it's not about the morality of throwing money, it's about having the money to throw away. It doesn't matter if the manager has a vision or not, currently United spend as much money has the other big clubs and can't spend a lot more unless if the club borrow money which means that you essentially take money away from future budgets.
If the money simply isn't there to invest heavily, then I'd agree totally. To be honest I don't know how much money there is to spend, but surely we have the money to make three major signings right now?
In fairness, Ole has spent well with the money he's been given, and I think we were hoping for the team to push on further this season. But if Ole doesn't get the players he needs, it suggests the board do not trust him to succeed with a heavily invested team.
Why? How much do you think the club actually makes? We had to take a 150m loan in order to cover the lack of income between March and June, we currently don't make gate money but still have the same recurring expenses and football clubs rarely have money to make three major signings in particular when we already made one in January and an other one last summer plus two relatively expensive players in Wan Bissaka and VDB because in the real world of football transfers over 40m€ are major transfers. When clubs make several major signings they either spared money in the recent past, Chelsea and Real Madrid would be recent examples or they are borrowing from future budgets. United aren't different, we don't live in a different financial dimension.
And before some posters start that nonsense again, this isn't a defense of the club or the owners. If the club was well managed we would be in a position where we don't have to spend big every summer just to not be left behind. Big clubs are rarely in that situation because their large purchases are supposed to be guaranteed successes, unfortunately in our case every big purchase(+40m€) end up making very little difference and requiring even more investment. We have been so used to silly amounts being wasted that the fanbase thinks that it's normal and not enough.
The Glazers have not put in their own money into the club. Why should we?
It's kind of depressing to think that the only way for them to sell up is to hope we tank so badly that the club stops being profitable.
It's kind of depressing to think that the only way for them to sell up is to hope we tank so badly that the club stops being profitable.
I totally hear you. I won’t ever watch the tv series The Equaliser again.
Post of the day. Atleast someone see’s the actual issues and also knows that this money pot people just assume we have does not exist. Our financials clearly state what we can and cannot do. Also key to point out.. If our expensive purchases had a better success rate I.e. Alisson, Fabinho, VVD. We wouldn’t have to keep spending so big and we might take the risk of leveraging more.
Are you fecking high?
Im saying that £1 billion could be used on renovation of the stadium or the squad.
The fans who spend money on the club are paying on interest for the debt to this fecking day.
The Glazers love fans like you. They are the reason we are in this mess in the first place.
So really it says everything. Going off at a tangent with managers, instead of picking a certain style of manager. Letting them waste money left, right and centre. People with no knowledge of football making the final and most important decisions.
Very easy to mock, but I tip my cap to you. The reason a fan lead movement won't have any legs, is because people aren't willing to make sacrifices. I freely admit I am one of those, but I won't mock you to try and absolve myself.
I'm not a fan of the timing or some of your reasoning, but anyone who can't see how this club has failed miserably post Sir Alex is kidding themselves (Sancho or no Sancho). We can talk about how much money we have spent (which is a lot), but ultimately we have failed on the field... the players who are picked by a manager, who is picked by a CEO, who is picked by the owners. We keep churning through players and managers, and one constant remains
I think you should all start by deleting your profile on redcafe.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. The Glazers don't care about fans. They only care about customers. So hit them where it counts.
Yeah the clubs decision making on the football side is awful. But we still are where we are. We aren’t the only club making stupid decisions.
A club this size and stature should be hiring the best people who would not make stupid decisions.