Philippe Coutinho | Confirmed

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Ridic business by Pool! I'd be laughing all the way to the bank*

*transfer market
 
Not good, don't like the Premier League's best players being poached by Barcelona/Madrid, thought with all the money English clubs have now and with the Coutinho saga last summer, change was happening and English clubs could squat them away but i guess this shows we aren't there yet.
 
This move is simply pushing up transfer fees across the board. We won’t get anyone decent for less than 100m from now on. Ridiculous!
 
My god. The Neymar sale has really revolutionized the way football is going. Now I wonder how are they going to fit Griezmann into all this next season. Could they sell Suarez?
Probably.
Can't remember what formation Barca play at the moment, but I'm guessing the plan was for the team to look something like this by next season:

Ter Stegen
--Defence

Busquets​
Verratti
Coutinho
Messi​
Griezmann----------------Dembele
Verratti didn't go through, so not everything worked out, but apparently Paulinho's doing alright.
 
2.5% of the fee goes to Vasco da Gama (€4M)
1.5% of the fee goes to Inter (€2.4M)

Leaving Liverpool €153.6M (£136.2M)

Well that goes a long way to soften the FFP restrictions of Inter. Maybe they can afford the Mkh in Mkhitaryan now. :lol:
 
This move is simply pushing up transfer fees across the board. We won’t get anyone decent for less than 100m from now on. Ridiculous!
Well that's what scouts are for, to find these players before they are worth over £100m.
 
Probably.
Can't remember what formation Barca play at the moment, but I'm guessing the plan was for the team to look something like this by next season:

Ter Stegen
--Defence

Busquets​
Verratti
Coutinho
Messi​
Griezmann----------------Dembele
Verratti didn't go through, so not everything worked out, but apparently Paulinho's doing alright.
uhhhh...where are the wide players???
 
2.5% of the fee goes to Vasco da Gama (€4M)
1.5% of the fee goes to Inter (€2.4M)

Leaving Liverpool €153.6M (£136.2M)
Almost all sales include a 10% sell on clause. Given he was a hot prospect it would be odd for Inter not for it to be included. Would be shocked if Inter only got 1.5%
 
I think if they get both, they might as well sell Can for €15-20M now. Though stingy Juve probably don´t want to pay and will wait.
You know Juventus why bothering wrote the first part. Rumor was that Can already penned agreement for summer free transfer, so nothing L'pool can do now.
 
Almost all sales include a 10% sell on clause. Given he was a hot prospect it would be odd for Inter not for it to be included. Would be shocked if Inter only got 1.5%

That´s probably just the youth developmental fee based on the years spent at the club. I think it is 0.5% per year. Coutinho was at Inter youth level from age 16-18. Vasco da Gama get slightly more, likely for age 10-15. These sell-on clauses are fairly new, since the bigger clubs have started to buy up talents at a very young age at moderate fees.
 
Almost all sales include a 10% sell on clause. Given he was a hot prospect it would be odd for Inter not for it to be included. Would be shocked if Inter only got 1.5%
No mention of a sell on fee so far - just the youth development fee so I'm guessing there was no clause in the contract between Inter and Liverpool..
 
A blow to lose him at this time of the season and personally I think he’s an excellent player but importantly for Liverpool with the makeup of their squad he’s not indespensible to the club. As long as they reinvest the money wisely (which in all fairness they have with recent signings) then this could end up being a positive thing.

On a side note I know it was 5 years ago but didn’t realise he cost just 8.5 million. That really is an excellent find and also shows that even in this day and age there are still some bargains around
 
The deal was clearly already done, maybe as far back as the summer.

Agreed. This is quite obviously paying for the Keita and VVD deals. A great bit of business for Liverpool.

Coutinho is a very good player, but I wouldn’t call him world class.
 
Brilliant player and very enjoyable to watch. I wish him all the best, a bit disappointed he didn't get a proper fairwell at Anfield cos he deserves that.

Hopefully we'll get someone in but it's gonna be difficult in January and everyone knowing we've got money to spare. Lemar would be great but don't see it happening.
 
It's not a bubble, is the evolution of the industry

At least here in Spain we went from free League and UCL games in public tv, to sports package in monthly fees, shirts 3x times more expensive and a load of Sports media creating revenue from ads 24/7, before that you had 10 minutes of sports in the news, 4 sports newspaper and the odd La Liga weekly at Sundays.

It's like the NBA, when sports go this big its no longer a bubble, people pay a lot for this, so clubs have the money
But surely such prices aren't sustainable.
 
This move is simply pushing up transfer fees across the board. We won’t get anyone decent for less than 100m from now on. Ridiculous!
Griezmann would be less
 
But surely such prices aren't sustainable.

They are probably sustainable. Transfer prices have been going up with club revenue. And football is only going to get bigger because football is European centric at the moment. Once China and the USA become big players, football will explode.
 
It's utterly ridiculous that in just one year, Pogba has gone from the most expensive player to the fourth most expensive player(which will be five when PSG buys Mbappe).
 
I actually think this could be a good thing for Liverpool but my God it is glorious to see the meltdown they are having over their best player fecking off again
 
Coutinho has seriously been on another level this season. He's improved quite a bit beyond what he was before IMO - Probably to insure Barca wouldn't look away.

It's a positive move for us anyways - Not hugely concerned about Liverpool but top 4 is still far from secure and this will significantly weaken them. Arsenal already look done and Spurs are struggling.
 
Zidane went for €70 million when Real Madrid's total revenue was just under the €200 million mark so that was 1/3 or their total income on one player

Coutinho is about 1/3 of Barcelona's total revenue so it's not really a bubble clubs just have that much money to spend these days
A question then, is the money in football itself sustainable?

At some point, consumers will surely not be willing to pay this continued exorbitant prices.
 
It's utterly ridiculous that in just one year, Pogba has gone from the most expensive player to the fourth most expensive player(which will be five when PSG buys Mbappe).
Can escalating even faster with Madrid is looking for some fresh starting XI: Hazard, Dyabla, Icardi, maybe Kane even?
 
They are probably sustainable. Transfer prices have been going up with club revenue. And football is only going to get bigger because football is European centric at the moment. Once China and the USA become big players, football will explode.
It's no guarantee that football will ever be that big in those markets.

I can't see football ever being in the top 3 in the States for example.
 
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