Empty words. Foden is clear of Greenwood in almost every single aspect. Dribbling ability, energy, passing, ball control and retention, touch, vision and creativity, to name a few. Greenwood is a better finisher and possibly has more pace, but even then I’m not sure about the latter.
Phil Foden - What Is His Potential?
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I agree and find it ridiculous how people seem to have already decided that Foden is 'tiers above' all these other young talents that have demonstrated more than him so far.
Might be slightly hyperbolic but the general point is true - yet people are claiming that Foden is 'already better' than Rashford which is clearly ridiculous.
Incredible cameo today too, in all fairness.
Looks class. City were much better when he came on.
Mount was brilliant today too but experts on here have decided that Mount is a 'level below'.
I’ve often wondered about his confidence and Pep has called him out on it before. He looks like he’s starting to fancy himself a bit. Encouraging if you’re a City or England fan.
Fair enough, my mistake.
He’s a City player so it wouldn’t be a shock if he didn’t get a fair hearing on here. I don’t know how many starts he has but he has not long ago become a regular starter at City. I assume he will get a lot better and he is already very good. Scores quite a few goals too. Annoying all round.
Mason and Foden are completely different players and so any comparison is pointless from the get go. That said, much as I rate Mason (and I do think he'll be a top, top player) if I had to pick one for my squad I'd pick Foden. I really think he's THAT good. His dribbling, comfort with the ball in tight spaces and passing are already elite and he'll still improve. I reckon he'll be one of the best in the world one day.
The only thing he isn't at least one level below on is his off the ball contributions, which for a ball player doesn't count for much. Obviously a worse finisher / striker, much worse at the final ball, and technically worse in terms of dribbling, passing, touch. The only thing Foden hasn't shown yet that Mount has is that he can act as a key player in the build-up, rather than a supporting player in the last third, but that's just because Mount is competing with Havertz, Foden with de Bruyne. Given his arrogance it seems unlikely he would find that transition difficult. And Mount's role is an important reason why Chelsea have been able to control games for large periods while creating few quality chances under Tuchel. Reasonably impressive for a young player but nothing compared to what Foden is doing.
Err, what? When have Smith-Rowe and Saka done this?
Just watching him closely in tonights game against Villa.
His movement, balance, control, skills and enthusiasm. Absolutely complete footballer!
His movement, balance, control, skills and enthusiasm. Absolutely complete footballer!
Almost as good as Smith-Rowe.
Honestly, what a player. Potential iniesta/xavi level greatness.
No.
Easily one of best English talents in last 30 years.
I don't know how many of you watched the U-17 World cup a few years ago but Foden was head and shoulders ahead of everyone else and it wasn't close. His closest rival was daylight.
The only thing I have against him apart from being a City player is that he has the most generic face known to man.
The only thing I have against him apart from being a City player is that he has the most generic face known to man.
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Real air of Rooney about him, not in style, but in that he's gonna be England's best player this generation and rack up huge numbers.
Looks an amazing player, which is sickening.
Looks an amazing player, which is sickening.
He's unreal. Head and shoulders above any English talent I've ever seen in the past 10 years.
If he keeps improving exponentially then he will win the balon d'Or, eventually.
If he keeps improving exponentially then he will win the balon d'Or, eventually.
One of those faces you want to punch.
Saw a picture of him from tonights game when he had 5 Villa players around him. Looked like a young Wayne Rooney. The kid got some real potential. Ugly but effective.
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I didnt watch it, but i watched the pre season game against City 4 years ago, and while it was only pre season, most never heard of him and he was seriously impressive for such a young and unknown player playing against seniors. It was pretty obvious to me that he was a top player in the making.
He's an English techno-midget.
I actually liken him more to Wilshere a decade ago. Better with close control and end product in final third but more of that style compared to Rooney's explosive type of game of power in his early days at Everton.
So yeah he's everything and more I thought Wilshere was going to develop into in 2011 but injuries and his and Arsenal's mentality back then stopped that.
Simply has to be starting at the euros ahead of likes of Lingard and Mount given those two have suddenly emerged as serious options for the 11.
So yeah he's everything and more I thought Wilshere was going to develop into in 2011 but injuries and his and Arsenal's mentality back then stopped that.
Simply has to be starting at the euros ahead of likes of Lingard and Mount given those two have suddenly emerged as serious options for the 11.
He’s no Angel Gomes the caf tells me.
Not that I want him injured, bur Arsenal really had become a parody of themselves at that point
His first touch is just magestic at times. Could be a future ballon d'Or winner, unfortunately.
But can Foden do it on a wet and windy Wednesday in Todela?
Absolute class... Why couldn’t he have been a United fan like his Dad and brother? Joined our academy instead and come through here. 
Wouldn't be surprised if Pep goes back to Barca some day and takes him along.
That would probably lead to his face becoming non-generic.One of those faces you want to punch.
I agree.
He has come along in leaps & bounds, he was pure class against Villa today. Pep had the luxury of being able to bring him along slowly & I feel it's paid dividends. How much better can get, I don't know but he is some player right now.
I wouldn't say head and shoulders, Sancho isn't far off, he is a top talent and had an amazing season followed by a average one, the only difference is that Sancho is playing for a struggling Dortmund side not Peps top City team.
Greenwood is 18 months younger than Foden, he is just as talented but Foden is just at a further level of progression due to age.
Bellingham is just over 3 years younger than Foden, he is a similar level of talent, but further behind in the progression level due to being 17 not 20.
To be fair, you could say that about me.
Just spit my wine on myself...
Good young English player, but like every other young English player, has a good season and hes suddenly a generational talent. Give the boy a few years of playing at the same consistency then we can call him a great player.
Is he really a good player because hes that good or is it that hes just good because hes coached by one of the best coaches?
Is he really a good player because hes that good or is it that hes just good because hes coached by one of the best coaches?
Watched Foden a few times this season, caught the Villa game. Very impressed, if he keeps working he could play at a Scholes type level.
Nothing certain though, needs to keep grafting, but he's in the right place, with the right manager. I'd take him over sancho.
Nothing certain though, needs to keep grafting, but he's in the right place, with the right manager. I'd take him over sancho.
The bad kid from Toy Story
Just my feeling but I think Peps system is holding him back. Reckon he'd be better in a system with more freedom. England producing Sancho and him at the same time while Grealish is still banging about is bang out of order. This is what a real golden generation looks like.
Incredible player.
One of the best English talents I've seen. His potential is absurd.
As an Englishman, it's refreshing to see us have such technically gifted players coming through the ranks. The future looks really bright.
One of the best English talents I've seen. His potential is absurd.
As an Englishman, it's refreshing to see us have such technically gifted players coming through the ranks. The future looks really bright.