Pedri | Barcelona player

Surely having a release clause of 1 billion means there's effectively no release clause, which makes the whole rule (that there must be a release clause) pointless.
That is the thing I don't get. Legally you have to have a release clause. The 1 billion value makes it an impossible one, so how is the legal requirement satisfied.
 
That is the thing I don't get. Legally you have to have a release clause. The 1 billion value makes it an impossible one, so how is the legal requirement satisfied.
What’s confusing? It’s not an impossible one, it’s a nearly impossible one — unless they change the law and create a way to establish a “fair” value (I have no idea how they would be able to do it).

Need I remind you that Neymar’s release was also set up as an impossible one, until it turned out that it wasn’t.
 
That is the thing I don't get. Legally you have to have a release clause. The 1 billion value makes it an impossible one, so how is the legal requirement satisfied.

It's a figure the Player/Agent have agreed to. How is the legal requirement not satisfied?
 
What am I missing here? Didn’t one of Ronaldo’s later contracts at Real also include a 1 bn release clause? Why is it news?

It’s basically compliance to Spanish laws while also at the same time screaming loud and clear that he’s not for sale at the moment. If the player wants to move in a couple of years and put in a transfer request, won’t take a billion to pry him out.
 
I don't understand where you are going with this?

What would you like to have seen to make it not ridiculous?
Put it into context of Messi's last realease clause, 700 million euros...

Pedri himself already had a release clause over 300m Euros anyhow, is there any need to take it to a billion? What football club realistically would be able to spend over £300m or Euros now on one player, a release clause of 500m euros in plentiful.
 
Put it into context of Messi's last realease clause, 700 million euros...

Pedri himself already had a release clause over 300m Euros anyhow, is there any need to take it to a billion? What football club realistically would be able to spend over £300m or Euros now on one player, a release clause of 500m euros in plentiful.
But again, why does it matter or why are you finding it ridiculous?

We used to have 100m release clauses for players worth 30m about 10 or so years ago
Prices have been increasing (and showing no signs of slowing down)
This is a sign of future proofing and ensuring you have control of selling the player

It also gives the club a margin of bargaining when selling the player, if they ever do
Who knows what 500m will be worth in football in 3 years time.

I think it's bizarre this a point you wanna make or argue about?
If a club can't spend more than 300m then whether they put 500m or a 1bn really doesn't matter. It's just a number then.
But why take a chance?

I dunno, maybe it's just me finding it weird that this is a point of contention for you?
 
But again, why does it matter or why are you finding it ridiculous?

We used to have 100m release clauses for players worth 30m about 10 or so years ago
Prices have been increasing (and showing no signs of slowing down)
This is a sign of future proofing and ensuring you have control of selling the player

It also gives the club a margin of bargaining when selling the player, if they ever do
Who knows what 500m will be worth in football in 3 years time.

I think it's bizarre this a point you wanna make or argue about?
If a club can't spend more than 300m then whether they put 500m or a 1bn really doesn't matter. It's just a number then.
But why take a chance?

I dunno, maybe it's just me finding it weird that this is a point of contention for you?
Definitely not just you.
 
But again, why does it matter or why are you finding it ridiculous?

We used to have 100m release clauses for players worth 30m about 10 or so years ago
Prices have been increasing (and showing no signs of slowing down)
This is a sign of future proofing and ensuring you have control of selling the player

It also gives the club a margin of bargaining when selling the player, if they ever do
Who knows what 500m will be worth in football in 3 years time.

I think it's bizarre this a point you wanna make or argue about?
If a club can't spend more than 300m then whether they put 500m or a 1bn really doesn't matter. It's just a number then.
But why take a chance?

I dunno, maybe it's just me finding it weird that this is a point of contention for you?
Yeah, I don’t get it either. What they did is just common sense.
 
Surely having a release clause of 1 billion means there's effectively no release clause, which makes the whole rule (that there must be a release clause) pointless.

Someone at some point said that about Neymar’s
 
That is the thing I don't get. Legally you have to have a release clause. The 1 billion value makes it an impossible one, so how is the legal requirement satisfied.

The contract has to have a release clause and it does. The amount is part of the negotiation between the player and the team. Both parties agreed to 1bn, just like they agreed to the length of the contract, the wages, the image rights, and everything else.
 
Someone at some point said that about Neymar’s

Sure but Neymar's clause was twice the world record (this new one is five times that!). And it was for Neymar, Brazil's 10 who was in his prime.

An 18 year old with about 50 top flight appearances has a billion euro clause. That's bananas.
 
Release clause is mandatory so they will put some number that's agreed by all parties, barca are not some midtable club to put 50-60 million euros release clause. For Madrid and Barca players release clause doesn't matter. All their players will have insane numbers.

End of the day it means feck all, if some club wants to buy Pedri and he wants to leave then both clubs will negotiate instead of doing a Neymar, Partey, Martinez.
 
Sure but Neymar's clause was twice the world record (this new one is five times that!). And it was for Neymar, Brazil's 10 who was in his prime.

An 18 year old with about 50 top flight appearances has a billion euro clause. That's bananas.
There was a time when there were contract talks for Roy Keane, and the quoted figure was 50k a week, and at that time it was stated, it was crazy and would never be sustainable.

Everything about the football world is crazy when it comes to money.
 
If his agent isn't a total dummy, he'd have demanded a yearly pay that is 10% of his release clause. These release clauses in la liga are a total joke.
 
All release clauses should be regulated to be a multiple of salary.

E.g. 3x annual salary.
 
All release clauses should be regulated to be a multiple of salary.

E.g. 3x annual salary.

why?
so you say that a random wonder kid who makes 300k per year should be sold by less than 1M... :lol:

release clauses should be abolished and be just optional if the club and player agree on them.

That is the thing I don't get. Legally you have to have a release clause. The 1 billion value makes it an impossible one, so how is the legal requirement satisfied.

it is not impossible, it is just extremely expensive.

If his agent isn't a total dummy, he'd have demanded a yearly pay that is 10% of his release clause. These release clauses in la liga are a total joke.

i agree they are a joke.... it is a joke that they exist.

laliga has lost a ton of talent beca this.

by the way, if you are so worried about release clauses, you should ask your team to include them.

I'm kind of disappointed that Barca, even at their lowest, have been able to tie Pedri down to a new contract.

why? he is 18 and he is going to be an important player of a massive club (even if the economic situation is bad) that try to play a football style that is perfect for him. he has a lot of room for improvement.
he is also a regular starter of the spanish national team.

i don't see how he could regret joining barça or where he could be better.
 
Hope he’s happy. He’s priced himself out of a move to us by signing that. He’ll be fully aware how tight the Glazers (no chance they pay that) are and he’s gone and signed it anyway so he can stay at Barca and reap what he’s sown now.
 
I don’t get this issue with release clauses? Most leagues don’t even have the requirement so Pedri’s being set at €1bn doesn’t make him any more of a “slave” than Lindelof or any other random player. It’s a silly legal requirement for the league and nothing more - it doesn’t mean you can’t buy Pedri for less, and even if a club come in with a €1.2bn bid Pedri could still say no he’s staying at Barcelona.

And the requirement doesn’t have to be “realistic” - it just has to be a number that the club and player agree that if it’s met the offer has to be accepted. There’s probably tons of random players in La Liga who are worth €5-10m but have release clauses like €70-80m that obviously won’t be met; just numbers plucked to satisfy the requirement and also don’t mean the club will be fecked over.

It also works as a bit of PR for the club to spin to their advantage. He’s also only young but he evidently loves the club and could very well be happy to just see his career through their ups and downs.
 
I don’t get this issue with release clauses? Most leagues don’t even have the requirement so Pedri’s being set at €1bn doesn’t make him any more of a “slave” than Lindelof or any other random player. It’s a silly legal requirement for the league and nothing more - it doesn’t mean you can’t buy Pedri for less, and even if a club come in with a €1.2bn bid Pedri could still say no he’s staying at Barcelona.

And the requirement doesn’t have to be “realistic” - it just has to be a number that the club and player agree that if it’s met the offer has to be accepted. There’s probably tons of random players in La Liga who are worth €5-10m but have release clauses like €70-80m that obviously won’t be met; just numbers plucked to satisfy the requirement and also don’t mean the club will be fecked over.

It also works as a bit of PR for the club to spin to their advantage. He’s also only young but he evidently loves the club and could very well be happy to just see his career through their ups and downs.

Yeah, very strange to see people make an issue out of it when all our players effectively have a release clause of £∞. If the PL had the same rule and we were giving a new contract to Rashford or Greenwood, the same posters would want the person writing it up to hold down 9 on their keyboard until they got bored when filling in the release clause, and rightly so.
 
It’s caf, what do you expect. We can pick a fight in the middle of a sunday mass
 
Setting a high release clause for a valuable player that you don’t want clubs to just readily be able to get is such a strange thing to be upset about :lol: International breaks huh?
 
Hope he’s happy. He’s priced himself out of a move to us by signing that. He’ll be fully aware how tight the Glazers (no chance they pay that) are and he’s gone and signed it anyway so he can stay at Barca and reap what he’s sown now.
Maybe he doesn't care about Utd ? Ever thought about that ?
 
Hope he’s happy. He’s priced himself out of a move to us by signing that. He’ll be fully aware how tight the Glazers (no chance they pay that) are and he’s gone and signed it anyway so he can stay at Barca and reap what he’s sown now.

seriously doubt he even knows who the Glazers are. he most likely doesn't care about United as well.
 
why?
so you say that a random wonder kid who makes 300k per year should be sold by less than 1M... :lol:

release clauses should be abolished and be just optional if the club and player agree on them.

Yes.

So the club must pay the wonder kid.
 
Hope he’s happy. He’s priced himself out of a move to us by signing that. He’ll be fully aware how tight the Glazers (no chance they pay that) are and he’s gone and signed it anyway so he can stay at Barca and reap what he’s sown now.

why should he be worried about united? hahaha.

and why should be more worried that any player that signs for any team in the premier league?

Yes.

So the club must pay the wonder kid.

do you pay infinite money to lindelof? because he has an infinite release clause.
 
So the lack of rest over the summer seems to have taken its toll. Only appeared in 4 games this season and is out again for another month.

 
Absolute lunacy. 73 games for an 18-year-old last season. Then straight back in with no rest a week later. And I thought were United were naive in the way they’ve flogged their own internationalists.